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Lib here: Democrats lost this shutdown

:_( I don’t think it means much, but the Dems didn’t do a...
flesh ticket booth becky
  01/22/18
most Americans don't support DACA
Provocative Corner
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Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action
  01/22/18
Probably depends how it's phrased "pollsters" c...
big lime field shitlib
  01/22/18
You really don't know wtf you are talking about.
bipolar theatre
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Most do but if push came to shove most supporters don’t give...
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big-titted wonderful feces
  01/22/18
They have a bad bargaining position since federal workers vo...
Carnelian dingle berry
  01/22/18
agreed, shut down is 180
titillating chad
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Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm
  01/22/18
Independents are like "wtf, why are we doing this? So ...
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comical hot reading party
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i think they did an excellent job explaining how they put il...
Slap-happy Crimson Center
  01/22/18
Schumer literally right now on the Senate floor pleading w t...
indecent hall skinny woman
  01/22/18
i dont get this at all. i get the STRATEGY behind it, but i...
Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm
  01/22/18
Trump forced their true intentions out in the open. THAT'...
Mind-boggling University Mad-dog Skullcap
  01/22/18
yeah...pretty much. but don't you still have to try and hid...
Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm
  01/22/18
schumer is smart and cynical and probably hates what is goin...
Slap-happy Crimson Center
  01/22/18
yeah. they're acting on marching orders. and the leadershi...
Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm
  01/22/18
Right. "This position is unacceptable, Trump is a Nazi...
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Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency
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@AdamSerwer Republicans fear their base, and Democrats fe...
Carnelian dingle berry
  01/22/18
@JuddLegum The argument, as I understand it, is that Trum...
Carnelian dingle berry
  01/22/18
lol good.
Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm
  01/22/18
i'm thinking of a word that starts with the letter L
Sticky drunken mother
  01/22/18
@MEPFuller How this plays out: -Senate and House vote ...
Carnelian dingle berry
  01/22/18
:_( Shutting down the government over DACA doesn’t make m...
flesh ticket booth becky
  01/22/18
"Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump i...
Carnelian dingle berry
  01/22/18
you make me sick
Provocative Corner
  01/22/18
(Guy who doesn’t live in a majority minority neighborhood)
bat shit crazy indigo dilemma sneaky criminal
  01/22/18
Russian Twitter-bots winning!
contagious halford
  01/22/18
@ComfortablySmug FACTS: - Dems got no policy changes ...
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indecent hall skinny woman
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Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action
  01/22/18
Durbin stood on the Senate floor a few minutes ago and calle...
indecent hall skinny woman
  01/22/18
:_( Civil rights are as American of a traditional as capi...
flesh ticket booth becky
  01/22/18
civil = civis = citizen.
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tyft
Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action
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is this spaceporn
Electric alcoholic electric furnace
  01/22/18
Let's keep it real here. This is a country freakin' founded...
Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency
  01/22/18
:_( Yeah, but we also have a holiday for MLK. There is a ...
flesh ticket booth becky
  01/22/18
MLK fought so that blacks wouldn't be disallowed from attend...
Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency
  01/22/18
Tcr.
Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency
  01/22/18
They didn't win anything but they didn't lose either. Pollin...
bateful institution
  01/22/18
so why force a shutdown last friday shithead?
Motley Coiffed Cuckold Stead
  01/22/18
Because they expected the media to push the narrative that i...
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth becky

:_(

I don’t think it means much, but the Dems didn’t do a good job explaining the shutdown. Plus, the shutdown barely even matters - people visited parks, DC, etc, employees miss a half day of work, stock markets are still up, etc. Plus, most Americans support DACA but it’s simply not top of mind for a majority of Americans, and not top of mind for a big portion of Dem voters. Negotiate a DACA fix in immigration negotiations with Trump regarding the wall and other stuff.

Looks like the shutdown will end today, but Dems messed this one up a bit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209586)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Provocative Corner

most Americans don't support DACA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209590)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209596)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: big lime field shitlib

Probably depends how it's phrased

"pollsters" can influence this very easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209643)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: bipolar theatre

You really don't know wtf you are talking about.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209988)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: bat shit crazy indigo dilemma sneaky criminal

Most do but if push came to shove most supporters don’t give a fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213012)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Chartreuse stirring fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213527)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: big-titted wonderful feces



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213811)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

They have a bad bargaining position since federal workers vote Dem and reptiles have hostility toward government. So shutting is down is not a bug, but a feature!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209609)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: titillating chad

agreed, shut down is 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209621)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209635)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

Independents are like "wtf, why are we doing this? So illegals can stay in the country? Seriously?" Everyone understands when Republicans shut it down because we can't borrow forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209650)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: comical hot reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209719)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: Slap-happy Crimson Center

i think they did an excellent job explaining how they put illegal aliens ahead of american citizens

odd that wasnt a winner for them



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209632)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: indecent hall skinny woman

Schumer literally right now on the Senate floor pleading w the President to "save the Dreamers"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209647)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm

i dont get this at all. i get the STRATEGY behind it, but i don't get putting it "out on Front Street". this is one of those classic "we have to hide our true intentions because NO ONE will accept this" things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209663)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: Mind-boggling University Mad-dog Skullcap

Trump forced their true intentions out in the open.

THAT's why they constantly portray him as Hitler/unhinged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209671)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm

yeah...pretty much. but don't you still have to try and hide? lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209688)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Slap-happy Crimson Center

schumer is smart and cynical and probably hates what is going on

but i get the vibe that a large part of the DNC actually believe catlady twitter is 65% of the population, trump won because of a Russian scam, and there is no need to hide this crazy anymore



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209734)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm

yeah. they're acting on marching orders. and the leadership is miscalculating huge. i thought 2018 was going to be a blue house because of polling/libmedia. and that only a CALAMITOUS mistake would mess up this putt for them.

well...here it is. lol.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209866)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

Right. "This position is unacceptable, Trump is a Nazi and if you support him you're a Nazi too and deserve to be fired."

That's all they have right now. And they're using the media and "activists" to push that narrative.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209702)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Plum Range Sweet Tailpipe



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209648)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209653)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Aquamarine cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209672)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: Vibrant knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213028)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

@AdamSerwer

Republicans fear their base, and Democrats fear the GOP base, but Democrats do not fear their base at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209677)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

@JuddLegum

The argument, as I understand it, is that Trump was obstinate and wouldn't negotiate and neither would the Republicans so therefore we are caving



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209697)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Dull Talented Pocket Flask Pisswyrm

lol good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209709)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Sticky drunken mother

i'm thinking of a word that starts with the letter L

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209714)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

@MEPFuller

How this plays out:

-Senate and House vote to reopen govt thru Feb. 8.

-Another CR passes (either before or after another shutdown).

-Senate passes DACA bill.

-House passes its own DACA bill.

-Standoff between House and Senate.

-Another shutdown until one side caves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209706)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth becky

:_(

Shutting down the government over DACA doesn’t make much sense

Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular. In the meantime, the country is getting less white regardless of what Trump and Miller do, the demographics will come good for libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209721)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

"Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular."

LOL lib instinct is to immediately destroy the country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209733)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Provocative Corner

you make me sick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209788)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: bat shit crazy indigo dilemma sneaky criminal

(Guy who doesn’t live in a majority minority neighborhood)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213061)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: contagious halford

Russian Twitter-bots winning!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209739)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Carnelian dingle berry

@ComfortablySmug

FACTS:

- Dems got no policy changes for this extension

- They could have just done this Friday

- Only votes changing from No on Friday to Yes today are Dems

- Proves this shutdown is on the Dems

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209791)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: indecent hall skinny woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209816)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209950)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: indecent hall skinny woman

Durbin stood on the Senate floor a few minutes ago and called DACA the "civil rights issue of our generation."

Didn't they say that about gay marriage? And transgenders? And probably #MeToo?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209796)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth becky

:_(

Civil rights are as American of a traditional as capitalsm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209822)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: Slap-happy Crimson Center

civil = civis = citizen.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209865)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Stubborn metal gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210026)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: House-broken Spectacular Kitty Cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212989)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213015)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: Curious opaque space dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213435)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Sinister Up-to-no-good Lay Affirmative Action

tyft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209952)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Electric alcoholic electric furnace

is this spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209982)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

Let's keep it real here. This is a country freakin' founded by slave owners. Yes, it was a country founded on freedoms and liberties for certain classes of people, but it wasn't founded on the concept of unlimited freedom for absolutely everyone. And until now, the concept of absolute freedoms for illegal immigrants would have been seen as totally insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210001)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: flesh ticket booth becky

:_(

Yeah, but we also have a holiday for MLK. There is a pretty strong progressive tradition in the US over centuries, which any 9th grader that took history would know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35211179)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

MLK fought so that blacks wouldn't be disallowed from attending normal schools, buy/rent housing, buy food at a restaurant and even using normal bathrooms/drinking fountains. The stuff he was fighting for was extremely basic and frankly, entirely reasonable. This isn't "well yeah, they're here illegally but they're ENTITLED to stay" sort of stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212982)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

Tcr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209935)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: bateful institution

They didn't win anything but they didn't lose either. Polling showed that most still blamed the GOP for the shutdown, though I'm sure it would have changed had they continued. It was a pointless endeavor. DACA doesn't expire until March and with the injunction in place it might take until the end of the year before the gov't can get their win at the Supreme Court and start deportations of recipients (which they won't do anyway). So it's not pressing enough to get anybody to move on it anytime soon.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210045)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: Motley Coiffed Cuckold Stead

so why force a shutdown last friday shithead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210215)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Flatulent trip international law enforcement agency

Because they expected the media to push the narrative that it was the GOP's fault and they figured they would come out ahead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210248)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Plum Range Sweet Tailpipe

Reminder: Trump "leaked" the infrastructure bill right after the Shutdown ended as yet another item tacked onto a DACA deal. Trump's right. He does love the DACA "kids". He's gonna make them carry everything he wants on their backs in exchange for allowing them to stay. They'll be his own personal Atlases, but he's the one who shrugs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213066)



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Date: November 13th, 2020 1:51 PM
Author: Racy patrolman house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#41359195)