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Lib here: Democrats lost this shutdown
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:19 PM Author: Glassy Nowag :_(
I don’t think it means much, but the Dems didn’t do a good job explaining the shutdown. Plus, the shutdown barely even matters - people visited parks, DC, etc, employees miss a half day of work, stock markets are still up, etc. Plus, most Americans support DACA but it’s simply not top of mind for a majority of Americans, and not top of mind for a big portion of Dem voters. Negotiate a DACA fix in immigration negotiations with Trump regarding the wall and other stuff.
Looks like the shutdown will end today, but Dems messed this one up a bit |
Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Beady-eyed Sable Piazza most Americans don't support DACA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209590) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:20 PM Author: vigorous chestnut mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209596) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Canary soul-stirring den Probably depends how it's phrased
"pollsters" can influence this very easily |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:00 PM Author: wonderful out-of-control dilemma You really don't know wtf you are talking about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209988) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM Author: mint messiness Most do but if push came to shove most supporters don’t give a fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213012) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:27 PM Author: Slimy puppy institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213527) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:57 PM Author: titillating cyan chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213811) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Plum boistinker They have a bad bargaining position since federal workers vote Dem and reptiles have hostility toward government. So shutting is down is not a bug, but a feature! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209609) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Arousing library wagecucks agreed, shut down is 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209621) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone rough-skinned corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209635) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal Independents are like "wtf, why are we doing this? So illegals can stay in the country? Seriously?" Everyone understands when Republicans shut it down because we can't borrow forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209650) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Amber sneaky criminal idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209719) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Cheese-eating aquamarine hunting ground i think they did an excellent job explaining how they put illegal aliens ahead of american citizens
odd that wasnt a winner for them
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Irradiated pale public bath Schumer literally right now on the Senate floor pleading w the President to "save the Dreamers" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209647) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:26 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone rough-skinned corn cake i dont get this at all. i get the STRATEGY behind it, but i don't get putting it "out on Front Street". this is one of those classic "we have to hide our true intentions because NO ONE will accept this" things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209663) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:27 PM Author: diverse pervert Trump forced their true intentions out in the open.
THAT's why they constantly portray him as Hitler/unhinged. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone rough-skinned corn cake yeah...pretty much. but don't you still have to try and hide? lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209688) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Cheese-eating aquamarine hunting ground schumer is smart and cynical and probably hates what is going on
but i get the vibe that a large part of the DNC actually believe catlady twitter is 65% of the population, trump won because of a Russian scam, and there is no need to hide this crazy anymore
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone rough-skinned corn cake yeah. they're acting on marching orders. and the leadership is miscalculating huge. i thought 2018 was going to be a blue house because of polling/libmedia. and that only a CALAMITOUS mistake would mess up this putt for them.
well...here it is. lol. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal Right. "This position is unacceptable, Trump is a Nazi and if you support him you're a Nazi too and deserve to be fired."
That's all they have right now. And they're using the media and "activists" to push that narrative. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Blue Indirect Expression Friendly Grandma (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209648) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209653) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: vibrant flushed nursing home international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209672) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:29 PM Author: adulterous area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213028) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Plum boistinker @AdamSerwer
Republicans fear their base, and Democrats fear the GOP base, but Democrats do not fear their base at all |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:30 PM Author: Plum boistinker @JuddLegum
The argument, as I understand it, is that Trump was obstinate and wouldn't negotiate and neither would the Republicans so therefore we are caving
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone rough-skinned corn cake lol good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209709) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:32 PM Author: crusty trust fund wrinkle i'm thinking of a word that starts with the letter L (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209714) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:31 PM Author: Plum boistinker @MEPFuller
How this plays out:
-Senate and House vote to reopen govt thru Feb. 8. -Another CR passes (either before or after another shutdown). -Senate passes DACA bill. -House passes its own DACA bill. -Standoff between House and Senate. -Another shutdown until one side caves. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:33 PM Author: Glassy Nowag :_(
Shutting down the government over DACA doesn’t make much sense
Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular. In the meantime, the country is getting less white regardless of what Trump and Miller do, the demographics will come good for libs |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Plum boistinker "Illegal immigrants are gonna be harassed until Trump is gone. Focus on things that make him less popular." LOL lib instinct is to immediately destroy the country. |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Beady-eyed Sable Piazza you make me sick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209788) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM Author: mint messiness (Guy who doesn’t live in a majority minority neighborhood) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213061) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:34 PM Author: lake senate Russian Twitter-bots winning! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209739) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Plum boistinker @ComfortablySmug
FACTS:
- Dems got no policy changes for this extension - They could have just done this Friday - Only votes changing from No on Friday to Yes today are Dems - Proves this shutdown is on the Dems |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Irradiated pale public bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209816) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: vigorous chestnut mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209950) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Irradiated pale public bath Durbin stood on the Senate floor a few minutes ago and called DACA the "civil rights issue of our generation."
Didn't they say that about gay marriage? And transgenders? And probably #MeToo? |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:42 PM Author: Glassy Nowag :_(
Civil rights are as American of a traditional as capitalsm |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Cheese-eating aquamarine hunting ground civil = civis = citizen.
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:04 PM Author: 180 mahogany famous landscape painting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210026) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:22 PM Author: Saffron Corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212989) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213015) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:18 PM Author: Mauve House (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213435) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:56 PM Author: vigorous chestnut mood tyft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209952) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Painfully honest stage mad cow disease is this spaceporn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209982) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal Let's keep it real here. This is a country freakin' founded by slave owners. Yes, it was a country founded on freedoms and liberties for certain classes of people, but it wasn't founded on the concept of unlimited freedom for absolutely everyone. And until now, the concept of absolute freedoms for illegal immigrants would have been seen as totally insane. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210001) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Glassy Nowag :_(
Yeah, but we also have a holiday for MLK. There is a pretty strong progressive tradition in the US over centuries, which any 9th grader that took history would know |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:21 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal MLK fought so that blacks wouldn't be disallowed from attending normal schools, buy/rent housing, buy food at a restaurant and even using normal bathrooms/drinking fountains. The stuff he was fighting for was extremely basic and frankly, entirely reasonable. This isn't "well yeah, they're here illegally but they're ENTITLED to stay" sort of stuff. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35212982) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal Tcr. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35209935) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Ruby razzle depressive They didn't win anything but they didn't lose either. Polling showed that most still blamed the GOP for the shutdown, though I'm sure it would have changed had they continued. It was a pointless endeavor. DACA doesn't expire until March and with the injunction in place it might take until the end of the year before the gov't can get their win at the Supreme Court and start deportations of recipients (which they won't do anyway). So it's not pressing enough to get anybody to move on it anytime soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210045) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Bateful trailer park electric furnace so why force a shutdown last friday shithead? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210215) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Light narrow-minded hell son of senegal Because they expected the media to push the narrative that it was the GOP's fault and they figured they would come out ahead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35210248) |
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM Author: Blue Indirect Expression Friendly Grandma Reminder: Trump "leaked" the infrastructure bill right after the Shutdown ended as yet another item tacked onto a DACA deal. Trump's right. He does love the DACA "kids". He's gonna make them carry everything he wants on their backs in exchange for allowing them to stay. They'll be his own personal Atlases, but he's the one who shrugs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#35213066) |
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Date: November 13th, 2020 1:51 PM Author: Infuriating Filthy Kitchen Degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867314&forum_id=2#41359195) |