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Ruh-roh: Ending chain migration more popular w. voters than saving DACA.

Americans strongly back giving illegal immigrant “Dreamers” ...
stimulating menage
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> Americans strongly back giving illegal immigrant “Drea...
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They start with, for your neighbors and friends who have mad...
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who are these fucking assholes?? Just 19 percent said the...
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Foreigners who want to replace Americans
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those who believe in the Statue of Liberty Poem
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There are a lot of minorities that really want the majority ...
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way less than you think. many like the mix as is. most do....
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explain the 20% of americans who want exactly that.
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i am sure a generous handful are VERY self loathing whites.
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yes I would bet that top group is pretty white
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I agree with you but it seems like many fear recent immigran...
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i remember hearing something growing up--"it's their tu...
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what happened
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just like everything. everyone got told they didn't need to...
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>> Any system ruled by political parties will always m...
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interesting. i'm also a bit biased. been reading a lot abo...
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>> The point again is, that you can’t run a tight, coh...
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jordan peterson with some color commentary added in. also v...
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u read gulag archipelago? it's intense.
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no, but maybe i will. thanks for the rec. it's hard for m...
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giving all benefits of the doubt, probably i would say...oh ...
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Let Syrians Settle Detroit By DAVID D. LAITIN and MARC JAHR...
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tyty. so obviously, this was not even him spitballing, he w...
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Seems similar to the sending "pallets of cash" to ...
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jeez was that at the same time? ffs.
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actually this mentality coincides perfectly with shutting do...
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please god get this done miller
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would DACA with an end of lottery and chain migration replac...
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yes that'd be okay for me if it is limited to DACA apps and ...
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he thinks he can make a persuasive argument later or maybe t...
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"But the Senate bill!!!!"
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Graham Durbin is an abomination
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and their bill is, too
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SHUT IT DOWN
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I'm not buying these (((polls))) on dreamers.
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they probably never conducted either poll. daca is now. they...
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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: stimulating menage

Americans strongly back giving illegal immigrant “Dreamers” a pathway to citizenship — but a new poll found they also strongly back the other changes President Trump is pushing to build a border wall system, eliminate the visa lottery and curtail the chain of family migration.

The Harvard-Harris Poll, taken in the run-up to the government shutdown, even found huge support for cutting the level of legal immigration, which stands at more than 1 million a year, to less than half that.

The findings challenge the Gang of Six immigration deal Democrats and some Republicans tried to push through the Senate last week, only to see their efforts derailed by Mr. Trump.

That plan, authored by Sens. Lindsey Graham, a Republican, and Richard Durbin, a Democrat, called for a generous legalization for Dreamers, a small downpayment on Mr. Trump’s border wall and no significant changes to chain migration. The plan would have eliminated the visa lottery, but pumped those visas back into the legal immigration system to be used for a new amnesty for people from countries that suffered natural disasters.

Mr. Graham over the weekend said senators will never accept a deal that cuts the overall level of immigration, but the new poll says that’s exactly what Americans want.

The survey asked respondents what number they would like to see. A stunning 35 percent said legal immigration should be 250,000 a year or less, while another 19 percent said it should be between 250,000 and 500,000. Combined, they make up a majority looking for a cut of at least 50 percent over current annual levels. Another 18 percent said they want to see between 500,000 and 1 million.

Just 19 percent said they want to see an increase over 1 million.

Mr. Trump hasn’t said recently what legal immigration number he wants to see, but he has been vocal on changing the way the U.S. picks immigrants. He says skills and ability to assimilate in the U.S. should be weighted over extended family ties.

And the new poll says voters agree, by a 79-21 margin.

That’s even bigger than the 77-23 margin that supports legalization for Dreamers.

More than 60 percent of voters said current border security is “inadequate,” and 54 percent said they support “building a combination of physical and electronic barriers across the U.S.-Mexico border.”

The poll was taken Jan. 17-19, of 980 adult Americans.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/22/shock-poll-us-wants-massive-cuts-legal-immigration/?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=socialnetwork

But the Overton window hasnth shifthed!!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211792)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Misunderstood Stage

> Americans strongly back giving illegal immigrant “Dreamers” a pathway to citizenship

i continue to believe this MSM line is fucking bullshit caused by intentionally twisted questions to arrive at the result lib media pollsters want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211871)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: galvanic nursing home dopamine

They start with, for your neighbors and friends who have made america thier home and their little babies that grew up here...

and then they do live polling



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213304)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: Misunderstood Stage

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214666)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: sooty odious plaza double fault

who are these fucking assholes??

Just 19 percent said they want to see an increase over 1 million.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211800)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: underhanded piazza

Foreigners who want to replace Americans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211819)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: bronze national security agency

those who believe in the Statue of Liberty Poem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211821)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: white excitant space

There are a lot of minorities that really want the majority to become the minority.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211825)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211840)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Federal location

way less than you think. many like the mix as is. most do. we run away from our ghettos for that reason. don't let the fringe retards on twitter convince you otherwise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211924)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: Sienna Trump Supporter Faggotry

explain the 20% of americans who want exactly that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211940)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: Federal location

i am sure a generous handful are VERY self loathing whites.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211954)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: obsidian base

yes I would bet that top group is pretty white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211960)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: sooty odious plaza double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211966)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund

+ Jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211982)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: curious jade set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213336)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 11:13 PM
Author: umber aphrodisiac locus philosopher-king



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214802)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund

I've always thought that should be the case.

I wouldn't move to Austria only to hope it gets filled with non-Austrians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211951)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: obsidian base

I agree with you but it seems like many fear recent immigrants will be treated poorly if immigration is slowed and vote accordingly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211955)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: Federal location

i remember hearing something growing up--"it's their turn". like every immigrant group was SUPPOSED to eat shit for a generation. italians, irish, ricans, cubans, dominicans, etc. "oh, it's not personal, its just your turn to eat shit" and the reward was you could buy some little home on a cul de sac in whatever version of levittown was. you just paid dues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211984)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: obsidian base

what happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212004)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: Federal location

just like everything. everyone got told they didn't need to suffer, they deserve everything and every one who is successful stole it view power. immigrants got sold the same protomarxist bullshit as everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212018)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund

>> Any system ruled by political parties will always move to the left. Their business model is based on getting low status people to work for them. Obviously they must give them something in exchange. And they must motivate voters to vote for them. Their promise is simple: You, low status people, help us out, vote for us, obey our commands, and we will give you high status. Don’t vote for us, disobey us, let the right win, and you will remain low status. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/12/13/bioleninism-the-first-step/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212051)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Federal location

interesting. i'm also a bit biased. been reading a lot about venezuela and soviet russia.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212071)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund

>> The point again is, that you can’t run a tight, cohesive ruling class with white men. They don’t need to be loyal. They’ll do ok anyway. A much easier way to run an obedient, loyal party is to recruit everyone else. Women. Blacks. Gays. Muslims. Transexuals. Pedophiles. Those people may be very high performers individually, but in a natural society ruled by its core of high performers, i.e. a white patriarchy, they wouldn’t have very high status. So if you promise them high status for being loyal to you; you bet they’re gonna join your team. They have much to gain, little to lose. The Coalition of the Fringes, Sailer calls it. It’s worse than that really. It’s the coalition of everyone who would lose status the better society were run. It’s the coalition of the bad. Literal Kakistocracy.

There’s a reason why there’s so many evil fat women in government. Where else would they be if government didn’t want them? They have nothing going on for them, except their membership in the Democratic party machine. The party gives them all they have, the same way the Communist party had given everything to that average peasant kid who became a middling bureaucrat in Moscow. And don’t even get me started with hostile Muslims or Transexuals. Those people used to be expelled or taken into asylums, pre-1960. Which is why American Progressivism likes them so much. The little these people have depends completely on the Left’s patronage. There’s a devil’s bargain there: the more naturally repulsive someone else, the more valuable it is as a party member, as its loyalty will be all the stronger. This is of course what’s behind Larry Auster’s First Law of minority relations: the worse a group behaves, the more the Left likes it.

This is also why the Left today is the same Left that was into Soviet Communism back in the day. What they approve of today would scandalize any 1920s Leftist. Even 1950s Leftist. But it’s all the same thing, following the same incentives: how to build a cohesive ruling class to monopolize state power. It used to be class struggle. Now it’s gender-struggle and ethnic struggle. Ethnic struggle works in America because immigrants have no territorial power base, unlike in Russia or China. So the old game of giving status to low-status minorities works better than ever. It works even better, unlike Lenin’s Russia, America has now access to every single minority on earth. Which is why the American left is busy importing as many Somalis as they can. The lowest performing minority on earth. Just perfect. <<

https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2017/11/14/biological-leninism/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212085)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: Federal location

jordan peterson with some color commentary added in. also very accurate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212106)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: Saffron Thirsty Den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213274)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Federal location

u read gulag archipelago? it's intense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212078)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund

no, but maybe i will. thanks for the rec.

it's hard for me to sit and read a book with how much i have going on every day :( i try to read shorter stuff like articles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212096)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Honey-headed Volcanic Crater

Lol if anything they would be treated better because they'd be regarded as less of a threat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211995)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: Federal location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212006)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: Federal location

giving all benefits of the doubt, probably i would say...oh to hell with it. i have no clue.

i will tell you this. i am reminded of something bill clinton said at some globalist meeting around 2015 or 2016. they were talking about development, whatever. and he offhandedly said something to the effect of "why doesnt america take like 200k syrian refugees, give them detroit and give them money to revitalize it?" he was just spitballing, but that's REALLY telling of the mentality. syrians are more worth being given resources than the americans already in detroit. he caught hell for it in "woke" communities. these are the kinda of people who say shit like 1+MM. they've given up on black and brown americans and want to mulligan with arabs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211858)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: sooty odious plaza double fault

hmmmmmmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211935)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: vengeful friendly grandma ticket booth

Let Syrians Settle Detroit

By DAVID D. LAITIN and MARC JAHRMAY 14, 2015

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Detroit, a once great city, has become an urban vacuum. Its population has fallen to around 700,000 from nearly 1.9 million in 1950. The city is estimated to have more than 70,000 abandoned buildings and 90,000 vacant lots. Meanwhile, desperate Syrians, victims of an unfathomable civil war, are fleeing to neighboring countries, with some 1.8 million in Turkey and 600,000 in Jordan.

Suppose these two social and humanitarian disasters were conjoined to produce something positive.

Gov. Rick Snyder of Michigan, a Republican, has already laid the groundwork. In January 2014 he called for an infusion of 50,000 immigrants as part of a program to revitalize Detroit, and signed an executive order creating the Michigan Office for New Americans.

Syrian refugees would be an ideal community to realize this goal, as Arab-Americans are already a vibrant and successful presence in the Detroit metropolitan area. A 2003 survey by the University of Michigan of 1,016 members of this community (58 percent of whom were Christian, and 42 percent Muslim) found that 19 percent were entrepreneurs and that the median household income was $50,000 to $75,000 per year.

What confidence can we have that traumatized war refugees can be transformed into budding American entrepreneurs? We cannot know for sure. But recent evidence of recaptured children from the clutches of the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda and victims of violent crime across five continents reveals that they become more active citizens than similar compatriots who have not suffered from these traumatic events. In the Zaatari Refugee Camp in Jordan, Syrians, despite psychological scars and limited resources, have set up 3,500 shops, stores and other businesses.

Refugees resettled from a single war zone have helped revitalize several American communities, notably Hmong in previously neglected neighborhoods in Minneapolis, Bosnians in Utica, N.Y., and Somalis in Lewiston, Me.

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Resettling Syrians in Detroit would require commitment and cooperation across different branches and levels of our government, but it is eminently feasible. President Obama and Congress would have to agree to lift this year’s refugee ceiling by 50,000. The State Department, which handles overseas processing of refugees, would need to open offices at the camps in Jordan and Turkey, determine eligibility and administer a lottery for resettlement. Homeland Security, which controls the borders, would have to carry out accelerated security checks, as has been done in the past for Vietnamese and for Iranian religious minorities. Health and Human Services would need an expansion in the $1.5 billion it budgets for refugee resettlement.

The Treasury Department and the Department of Housing and Urban Development could also help. The Home Affordable Modification Program, part of the 2008 federal bailout of financial institutions, was meant to help places hardest hit by home-price declines. But the program has not been fully utilized, in part because of stringent oversight requirements. Cities like Detroit have gotten permission to use funds from the program to demolish abandoned properties and create parks and green spaces. But it would be better to spend the money on helping refugees renovate once-abandoned homes.

Finally, grants from the federal government and from philanthropic foundations would be needed to help the local Arab-American community supply social services for the newcomers.

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Of course, local buy-in is a sine qua non. Refugees are by no means the only source for the regeneration of Detroit. Its more settled populations, including African-Americans and Latinos, are bringing great energy and resources to the city’s renewal. But Syrians would bring new vigor and catalyze its nascent recovery.

Some skeptics will point to the difficulties of assimilation, noting past concerns in the Detroit area about the integration of Iraqi refugees. But there is no evidence to suggest that the Detroit area is a powder keg of anti-immigrant sentiment. Quite the contrary: From its original Native Americans to the Great Migration of Southern blacks to the infusion of Hispanic and Arab immigrants, Detroit has been a melting pot of religions, ethnicities and cultures.

In 2013, the city, which has a higher proportion of black residents than any large city in America, elected its first white mayor in more than 40 years. The following year, the city showed remarkable resilience and unity in emerging from municipal bankruptcy, with a reorganization plan that, among other things, preserved the collection of the Detroit Institute of Arts and gave the city space to invest in long-neglected public services.

Other skeptics will say that the plan would fail because the most ambitious Syrians would leave the city once they achieved economic security. There would be no legal way to prohibit this, of course. But the Syrians would be in the region with one of the most established Arab populations in America, surely an incentive to put down roots. Moreover, if small business and home-ownership loans were extended, the refugees would have a financial incentive to remain.

Finally, some will call this plan politically dead on arrival, given skepticism toward immigration, particularly in the Republican Party. But it’s worth noting that the 2003 study of the community found that two-thirds of respondents said they had voted for George W. Bush in 2000; refugee populations with traditional social views and a knack for entrepreneurship are not going to make Michigan less of a campaign battleground.

More important, both parties can agree that resettling destitute, innocent refugees is consistent with America’s moral and ethical commitments; it would send a powerful message to President Bashar al-Assad, the Islamic State and the world about American compassion and ingenuity.

Are the benefits to Detroit, to a devastated Syrian population, and to American ideals worth overcoming the expenses and administrative complexity of this proposal? We think so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/let-syrians-settle-detroit.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212011)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Federal location

tyty. so obviously, this was not even him spitballing, he was talking about something in the works. black people were PISSED online.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212027)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: racy center

Seems similar to the sending "pallets of cash" to Iran when Flint is in the middle of a water crisis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213337)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Federal location

jeez was that at the same time? ffs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213386)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:17 PM
Author: Federal location

actually this mentality coincides perfectly with shutting down a government to advance the interests of non-citizens. this is simply a manifestation of the same idea.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212088)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: obsidian base

please god get this done miller

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211807)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Federal location

would DACA with an end of lottery and chain migration replace THE WALL? is that an acceptable compromise?

personally, yes. but i know some hardliners aint even entertaining that. just judging the zeitgiest.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211999)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: obsidian base

yes that'd be okay for me if it is limited to DACA apps and not the whole 4 million or whatever. How do people like Lindsay Graham not realize most of these new Americans are not going to vote conservative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212063)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: Federal location

he thinks he can make a persuasive argument later or maybe they are in places that basically are a lost cause to be ceded or maybe he actually believes in what he is doing.

also...i think limiting to the current applicants or even making a window for apps...that would work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212121)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: underhanded piazza

"But the Senate bill!!!!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211811)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: Mewling garnet queen of the night

Graham Durbin is an abomination

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211828)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:58 PM
Author: hairless theatre

and their bill is, too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211890)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: orchid jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211820)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Floppy geriatric mad-dog skullcap sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211822)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: Vibrant angry bawdyhouse psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211857)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: stirring doctorate digit ratio

This is what a national conversation on immigration sounds like, libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211880)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:02 PM
Author: sooty odious plaza double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211937)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: underhanded piazza

SHUT IT DOWN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211953)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: glittery ruby parlour gaming laptop



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212033)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: Misunderstood Stage

cr. the goyim know!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214669)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: obsidian base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212030)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: curious jade set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213364)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: cheese-eating senate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213381)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: contagious becky preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214788)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Grizzly swollen nowag trailer park

It's almost as if comprehensive reform should be easy to pass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211906)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Emerald feces

I'm not buying these (((polls))) on dreamers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35211997)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Federal location

i bang this drum a lot. frequent polling is a tool of the radical left to destabilize and demoralize growing opposition to some orthodox belief that is either being proven as fundamentally untrue or deleterious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212060)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: Emerald feces

I find it hard to believe that for some reason Americans overwhelmingly support a particular subset of "illegal" immigrants, but are consistently opposed to illegal immigration in general.

During the shutdown, I barely saw the media even touch on or explain what DACA is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212111)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:23 PM
Author: Federal location

you're on to something. i have maintained that the avatar of this is some sob story about 13 year old Yesenia who is an adorable tricker who loves math when in reality most DACA eligible people are like 40 year old dudes. DACA is just a moniker and the cutest little girl possible is the profile pic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212141)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:32 PM
Author: spruce adventurous chad trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212208)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: clear spectacular pit sneaky criminal

The phrasing is vague like "would support helping children" vs actual policy or "congress should refuse to approve a budget over"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212189)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: racy center

It's b/c people are led to believe that most dreamers are "children" or teens. Almost half are in their 20s and 30s.

http://www.latimes.com/projects/la-na-pol-daca-future/static/img/daca-age-24.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213365)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: Floppy geriatric mad-dog skullcap sanctuary

lindsay graham seems to be a bit of an outlier on this issue



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35212729)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: razzmatazz mint heaven

they probably never conducted either poll. daca is now. they are buttering up readers by sounding "fair" or "reasonable" then pushing what they actually want. daca. they can always wave in more immigrants later.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213393)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 8:17 PM
Author: Bearded rose rigor abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35213421)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Sapphire indian lodge

This is why we have a democratic system so the majority doesn't completely f over the minority. Ask people if taxes should be dropped to 0 and 50% will voice support for that. Ask people if we should increase benefits for the military and like 70% will voice support for that. Just because the majority wants something, doesn't mean that's the right way to do things. CA does some law-making this way and it's a disaster. See prop 13 where the residents at the time voted to pretty much freeze property taxes for themselves. Terrible policy. Lets leave law making to politicians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214587)



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Date: January 22nd, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: lime beady-eyed internal respiration dilemma

yes this is a great point. Californians are by and large retarded fuckheads. from this it flows logically that the rest of the country shouldn't have any voice in the country's immigration policy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3867641&forum_id=2#35214702)