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Uber orders 24,000 self driving cars for 2019. Plans to get rid of drivers
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: drab thriller dilemma national security agency Uber orders 24,000 self driving cars from Volvo for 2019. Plans to get rid of drivers soon.
Volvo Cars to supply Uber with up to 24,000 self-driving cars
STOCKHOLM/SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Uber plans to buy up to 24,000 self-driving cars from Volvo, marking the transition of the U.S. firm from an app used to summon a taxi to the owner and operator of a fleet of cars.
The non-binding framework deal could offer San Francisco-based Uber a way to overcome setbacks at its autonomous driving division in Silicon Valley’s race to perfect self-driving systems.
Combining Volvo’s cars with Uber’s self-driving system builds on their nearly three-year relationship and comes as Uber’s autonomous driving unit has been hit by a lawsuit over trade secrets and the departure of top talent.
Automakers, ride-hailing firms and tech startups have been forging loose alliances in an effort to advance self-driving technology and claim a piece of what is expected to be a multi-billion-dollar business.
Geely-owned Volvo said in a statement on Monday it would provide Uber with its flagship XC90 SUVs equipped with autonomous technology as part of a non-exclusive deal from 2019 to 2021. A Volvo spokesman said it covered up to 24,000 cars.
The self-driving system that would be used in the Volvo cars -- which have yet to be built -- is under development by Uber’s Advanced Technologies Group.
Should Uber buy all 24,000 cars, it would be Volvo’s largest order by far and the biggest sale in the autonomous vehicle industry, giving Uber, which is losing more than $600 million a quarter, its first commercial fleet of cars.
A new Volvo XC90 typically retails from a starting price of around $50,000.
Uber has been testing prototype Volvo cars for more than a year, with safety drivers in the front seat to intervene if the self-driving system fails, in Tempe, Arizona and Pittsburgh.
“Our goal was from day one to make investments into a vehicle that could be manufactured at scale,” Jeff Miller, Uber’s head of automotive alliances, said.
Slideshow (2 Images) The cars, in theory, would be available through the Uber app to pick up passengers without a driver.
“It only becomes a commercial business when you can remove that vehicle operator from the equation,” Miller said.
No financial details were disclosed for the purchase, which would be a massive new investment for Uber and mark a change from Uber’s long-standing business model where contractor drivers buy or lease and maintain their own cars.
Miller said a small number of cars would be purchased using equity and others would be bought using debt financing.
Alphabet Inc 1172.9 GOOGL.ONASDAQ -3.27(-0.28%) GOOGL.O GOOGL.OF.N The deal builds on a $300 million alliance Volvo announced with Uber last year focussed on collaborating on the design and financing of cars with self-driving systems, which require different steering and braking features and sensors.
“We get support developing this car,” Volvo Cars CEO Hakan Samuelsson said in an interview. “It’s also a big commercial deal.”
LYFT RIVALRY Volvo, which has been under Chinese ownership since it was bought by Zhejiang Geely Holding Group from Ford in 2010, plans to make the SUVs at its Torslanda plant in western Sweden, and Samuelsson said they would be sold at roughly the same profit margin as Volvo sells through dealers.
Uber’s rival Lyft has this year struck a research partnership with Alphabet Inc’s (GOOGL.O) unit Waymo and secured deals with Ford Motor Co (F.N) and startups Nutonomy and Drive.ai to incorporate self-driving cars into its fleet.
Volvo’s agreement with Uber and Ford’s with Lyft show the pressure on automakers to avoid becoming obsolete in a world of increased automation, and on ride-services companies to start automating to cut driver costs and turn profits.
Volvo is one of Sweden’s biggest manufacturers by revenue, and has forecast a fourth straight year of record sales in 2017. |
Date: January 24th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Concupiscible center round eye Noice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226579) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: at-the-ready property the play was always to replace the drivers. they simply provided the footprint. i told this to a class of students to the effect of "uber is basically destroying the gypsy cab and tlc cab business. people doing it now are setting the doom of their own industry when they will have the capital to buy fleets of self driving cars. that sounds great but remember...there are whole neighborhoods built on the taxi/uber industry. they will fall apart quickly." the class had a handful of dominican students who fell silent. they knew what i was telling them. "washington heights is doomed if you don't act quickly". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226591) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: drab thriller dilemma national security agency cr, but it will be 180 from a consumer perspective because it wont make economic sense to own a car anymore. we can take a $1 uber anywhere in our city (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226606) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: at-the-ready property oh yeah. i think a lot of this will take time to scale out to suburbs, but that will happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226611) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: bat shit crazy razzle-dazzle nibblets $1 uber lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226641) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Lascivious University People Who Are Hurt $1.00 oh hey bro you put a period in there by mistake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226912) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:44 PM Author: adventurous fighting kitty boistinker "it wont make economic sense to own a car anymore"
Show me the math. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Wild Cumskin Uber Pool is like 12 bucks to get from one part of the city to another now. Once you eliminate the share the driver gets... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226800) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: narrow-minded abode immigrant ... it'll be $20. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227870) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 9:18 PM Author: alcoholic business firm mexican No straight male will want to wait around for some faggot car to come to him every morning before work. Self-driving Ubers don't end car ownership among straight males and employed females. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35230378) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: pale curious antidepressant drug by "act quickly" do you mean start applying for code academy now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226615) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: Heady confused gay wizard Washington Heights still has Dominicans?
Im exaggerating but that hood was doomed to be gentrified for ages. Stupidest thing Ive done is not put my law school tuition into a WH building ages ago. I used to ride the A train and get from W 4th to 168 in minutes. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza NYC's rent control laws mean that incumbent tenants have a huge advantage and can't really be evicted.
On the other hand rent control laws have been shown to raise average rents overall, despite helping keep rents low for existing tenants |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Purple house preventive strike "that sounds great but remember...there are whole neighborhoods built on the taxi/uber industry. they will fall apart quickly."
I could see a lot of neighborhoods being saved by self-driving cars. The big reduction in traffic and ability to sit back and sleep or do work will boost a lot of exurbs and neighborhoods that have missed out on the economic gains that are largely concentrated in a few mega-cities. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: rusted slimy heaven milk *boomer sleeps in self-driving car to office*
*poor neighborhoods magically lifted out of poverty* |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: vigorous pearl whorehouse *related litigation handled by RATFACE9000* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226750) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Sinister hairraiser site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227421) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: at-the-ready property nearly every male in washington heights of driving age supports their family by full time ubering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226758) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza flame, car ownership in wash hts has to be below 20% (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226816) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Diverse brunch You don't need to own your own car to Uber. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226853) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: at-the-ready property dude, im not flaming---maybe exaggerating, but not flame, EVERYONE drives in the heights. the car culture there is intense.
i invite you to go uptown on amsterdam around, oh, 11pm on a saturday and report back. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza nope. you're an idiot. i just looked at census data for a few districts in washington heights. car ownership rates are about 23.5%. and that's per HOUSEHOLD, not per adult or whatever (presumably multiple adults live in the typical wash hts dominican household). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227078) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: rusted slimy heaven milk a lot of uber drivers lease/rent their cars from uber or a 3rd party (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227107) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza the census series i'm looking at doesn't measure car ownership in the strict sense, but "vehicles available" which presumably includes leased and owned.
looking at the "no vehicles available" line item in the following Census table:
B25044 TENURE BY VEHICLES AVAILABLE Universe: Occupied housing units more information 2012-2016 American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: at-the-ready property this information is not captured by these questionnaires when people purposely evade detection.
there are two scams popular in WH w/r/t cars. the TC license scam and the Rhode Island license scam. how do i know? because i did deep ethnography. how did i do it? when i lived on 171 and broadway i spoke to my neighbors and currently i talk to my students. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza this is dumb. by this token these people wouldn't even fill out the census at all because a lot of them are illegally in the US.
anyway, suppose we play along. you're essentially saying that upwards of 70% of car owners in washington heights fill out census questionnaires, but with inaccurate information because they're running a car scam. why would they not evade the questionnaire altogether because of their legal status in the country, but then turn around and lie on the questionnaire about their possession of a car? |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: at-the-ready property dude, OF COURSE THEY DONT. lol. do you know anything about dominicans? im not judging them, btw, i love them. many are married in. my SISTER is married to one. my nephews are half dominican FROM FORT WASH. trust me, im not trying to flame here. and telling you what they do from my personal experience and relationships. if that bothers you, then i dont know to tell you, fam. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227233) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza jfc. i know too fucking much about dominicans, i grew up around them and my godfather and several of my aunts/uncles/cousins are dominican.
the point is, it doesn't make sense that they would fill out the questtionnaire despite their lack of legal status, yet then proceed to lie about owning a car or not. and that this pattern occurs for 60%+ of respondents to the census surveys.
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: at-the-ready property we'll just have to disagree on this. it's cool. i acknowledge you're coming with data, i question the ability of the data to capture the population properly. nbd. i got my panties in a bunch about it. my bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227781) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 9:11 PM Author: aphrodisiac light pit Describe scams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35230314) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: at-the-ready property *goes to Washington Heights and sees double parking everywhere*
*wonders aloud*
"Why are all these people from Rhode Island here?"
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza it's not going off vehicle registrations, it's going off census surveys.
the population density in Washington Heights is about 150,000 people per square mile. geometrically you couldn't fit enough cars in that small of a space for even 1/4 of households to possess cars. i mean think about it...a parking spot is about 250 sq ft, which is like half the size of an apartment. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: contagious autistic trailer park hairy legs so go work at mcdonalds or some shit until they automate that too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226823) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza NY State raising the NYC minimum wage to $15/hr was the death knell for fast food jobs
all these Dominicans just need to be deported. instead they'll drain welfare (tbh, that's what 75% of them already do). |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: at-the-ready property there is definitely a large welfare racket in the heights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226998) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Diverse brunch No, what's going to happen is rich people will either live in urban, high-tech city centers or 50-100 miles away in secluded rural palatial castles that they've built for themselves. Everything in between is going to be a hellscape. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226870) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: Lascivious University People Who Are Hurt (children of men screenwriter) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226920) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza you are such a self-important dullard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226804) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: at-the-ready property just adding content. and i never claimed to be exceptionally smart. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227002) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza you're pompous as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227013) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: comical chartreuse liquid oxygen dingle berry strong words from an exceptional pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227015) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: Ocher odious piazza (guy hiding behind a pseudonym defending his internet "friends") (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227082) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: at-the-ready property if i come across as that way, i don't do it deliberately. is what it is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227019) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: twisted excitant temple roast beef Fuck that shitpumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227410) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: Fluffy Henna Goal In Life he is black, too. very boring people intellectually, always. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227014) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: aromatic parlor idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227717) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:20 PM Author: primrose electric furnace point "We could use some cover while we announce that we're going to eventually eliminate thousands of jobs. Thoughts?"
"Meet Uber's First Diversity Officer" http://fortune.com/2018/01/23/uber-first-chief-diversity-officer/ |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Electric forum what's the update on their drivers being classified as "employees" as opposed to "independent contractors"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226609) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: yellow startling wrinkle affirmative action Update is honestly this...uber/lyft are buying time and delaying litigation until they have a driverless fleet.
But as of now, they are not employees. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: drab thriller dilemma national security agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226626) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Exciting senate queen of the night where are they getting the money for this? who is willing to float these cash-hemmoraghing businesses for five-six years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226650) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: pale curious antidepressant drug global capital is chasing returns, making unicorns out of fart apps. it is relieved to have something tangible to invest in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226668) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:23 PM Author: dull party of the first part This may be irrational, but I can't imagine ever feeling comfortable or safe in a self-driving car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226629) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Fluffy Henna Goal In Life it will be same as going on an airplane. scary idea, but if it works damn near 100 percent of the time, people wont think twice about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226662) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: alcoholic opaque field I'd be a little nervous just barreling down the highway in one, but a self-driving cab just tooling around at 20MPH in MFH traffic wouldn't scare me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226669) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Vibrant fortuitous meteor Rationally should be the opposite, but of course these feelings aren't rational. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226830) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Cobalt orchestra pit All fraud/lies. Uber is the next Theranos.
Legit self-driving tech is still 7-10 years away. Uber might be able to get it to work for a very discrete set of pickup/dropoff points, like SF/SV and MFH/Brooklyn, but this isn't going to go nationwide for a while. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: frum titillating faggot firefighter sanctuary agreed.
they should also be slapped with huge fines for abusing contractors, hopefully large enough to render the stock worthless |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: twisted excitant temple roast beef Do you really want to destroy a valuable service used by tens of millions because 10,000 people who willingly chose to work for the compensation offered were not offered enough compensation by your personal standard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227006) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: cerebral lemon principal's office Yeah, this is so clearly bullshit that I feel like I’m missing something like how uber’s pro forma definition of “self-driving” means it has cruise control or something.
Okay, just read it. The article says literally nothing. This deal is totally illusory. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: rusted slimy heaven milk i kind of wanted an XC90 until reading this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226689) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:42 PM Author: lime laughsome dog poop casino There’s going to be serious riots in this country unless a basic income comes into play. Would be much preferable IMO to have than hodge podge welfare given out to specific classes of people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226764) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: Fluffy Henna Goal In Life also all cashiers are going to be replaced by automoation very soon as well. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226776) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Godawful racy sex offender http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3735127&mc=2&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226793) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: rusted slimy heaven milk I think you missed sensible moderate LTM's post above. driverless uber cars will be a boon to poor neighborhoods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226802) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: motley ungodly theater stage hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226818) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: twisted excitant temple roast beef Absolutely not. Much like grocers and other stores, driverless cars won’t service the ghetto nearly to the same level as the rest of society since the cars will receive much more damage by the consumer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227018) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: comical chartreuse liquid oxygen dingle berry lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227085) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: sapphire appetizing pervert hissy fit CR. UBI is the one shitlib idea that I actually support, provided that it replaces every other social welfare program. So much fucking money is lost every year in the process of inefficiently administering dem programs, and if you're going to give handouts, might as well do it as efficiently as possible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226814) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Slate dashing hominid Of course it won't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227196) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: clear pea-brained cruise ship this is one of the reasons why it won't happen.
people need their hands held because they're irresponsible and always looking to game the system.
there are also massive amounts of people involved in the processing of dem programs. can't just flush them all down the toilet. |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: sapphire appetizing pervert hissy fit You're probably right, but a UBI should theoretically address the problem in your last paragraph. Providing an income to individuals whose jobs are made obsolete by societal advances is a selling point that people often advance in support of a UBI. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227943) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 5:46 PM Author: Exciting senate queen of the night (thoughtful moderate)
This is the talking point of every Ezra Klein wannabe who thinks complete control should be given over to disinterested technocrats, and everyone will just fall in line and act "rationally" ljl |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: comical chartreuse liquid oxygen dingle berry better bring in more uneducated third-worlders! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226820) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: twisted excitant temple roast beef Cool! We can start by having liberal states offer this benefit!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227420) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 1:56 PM Author: hilarious cuckoldry skinny woman I wonder what the results of all the capital investment over the next 6-18 months will be?
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:01 PM Author: wine unhinged crotch dragon Will I have to talk to the robot car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226869) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: clear pea-brained cruise ship ever seen total recall? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227910) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 8:56 PM Author: wine unhinged crotch dragon the driver will have 3 tits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35230194) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Sienna nowag state Level 5 self driving cars where a human aren't needed are at least 10 years away. Uber knows it doesn't have 10 years, so it is blowing smoke up everyone's ass with this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35226956) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Soul-stirring Lodge good one, faggots (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227021) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Beady-eyed turquoise stead fanboi the uber drivers I know hate it. they should be thrilled. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227035) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: contagious autistic trailer park hairy legs also, there's no fucking way they're going to have operational self driving cars by next year. or in the next 10 years for that matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227088) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: grizzly factory reset button I for one welcome our dystopian future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227207) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: adventurous fighting kitty boistinker Do you think you'll thrive in the chaos? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35230600) |
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Date: January 25th, 2018 12:11 AM Author: grizzly factory reset button I’ll be dead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35231900) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 3:59 PM Author: Haunting organic girlfriend pretty sure this will mostly roll out in suburbs, where the road conditions are pretty reliable there isn't a lot of unexpected activity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227834) |
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Date: January 24th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: clear pea-brained cruise ship this entire thread resembles a conversation going on at the poker table in vegas recently. two high-as-a-kite neckbeards were driving the action. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3869562&forum_id=2#35227920) |