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Saffron hell fat ankles
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"Yasmin, who is unmarried, was in hospital for six mont...
Smoky Locale Karate
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I initially overlooked that. Six months. Jesus.
Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal
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"Yasmin, who is unmarried..." Completely unnecc...
Hairraiser haunting pocket flask forum
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I mean sort of sets up the pay off of the other two dogs get...
Aqua university dopamine
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if she werr married, would never happened. lesson
Plum floppy new version organic girlfriend
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Truly, a NIGGERDOG
Carnelian casino keepsake machete
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"play fight" LJL
Twinkling Histrionic Friendly Grandma Kitchen
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Please focus on this: The dog ripped all the meat off my ...
Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal
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Bizarre as fuck.
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Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal
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Amy video of the pit bull getting put down?
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truly the nigger of the dog world
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Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal
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this stuff is absolutely awful. fortunately it seems shitpit...
vibrant fuchsia church building hominid
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How long before TMFs Sir Hinkles turns him into a pirozhki?
black legal warrant
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Never. Not even worried about that. Besides, my non-pit bu...
Confused Crusty Legend
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cr TMF won't die. it's usually a shitpit owner's loved ones ...
vibrant fuchsia church building hominid
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xo Sir Hinkles
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opaque demanding juggernaut
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her attitude is bizarre
bright center
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what's odd about being glad to be alive? assuming she's not...
Smoky Locale Karate
  02/04/18
She seems awfully calm and detached about everything.
Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal
  02/04/18
well, it has been a while personally, i get sick of everyon...
Smoky Locale Karate
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This woman sounds fucked in the head. 90% chance she beat th...
Appetizing godawful tanning salon coffee pot
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How are these dogs still legal in cities? At least this one ...
avocado school cafeteria digit ratio
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Good question. It's amazing and not at all surprising (consi...
Chestnut bawdyhouse
  02/04/18
and this one won't count as a fatality so it will get groupe...
Smoky Locale Karate
  02/04/18
holy fuck. these "dogs" need to be illegal
naked spectacular trailer park feces
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Don't be mean to Yasmin!
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I thought if there was a link it would go this direction but...
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jfc not even years of xo's scholarship on shitbulls could ha...
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literal thugs of the dogworld. i was on the fence, but i...
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the same xo poaster will read this but then argue that a rea...
buck-toothed native
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Hilarious cyan selfie
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stop defending the dogs
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Wouldn't let my kid near a pit. U don't think they're dispro...
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Whether they are abused or not is totally and completely irr...
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Irrelevant in terms of how I act around pitbulls, agreed. No...
Hilarious cyan selfie
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☝️ shitpit apologist right here. how people treat th...
Self-centered Chest-beating Office National Security Agency
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Why can't we point out how awful their owners are?
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Because this is precisely the argument apologists use to thw...
Self-centered Chest-beating Office National Security Agency
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What if I'm bringing it up because these attacks should trig...
Hilarious cyan selfie
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Gas all shitpits and their owners
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lol at Sir Hinkles-- what a CUTE name!
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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:07 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

My faithful dog of nine years tore my arm off: Woman tells how her Pit Bull suddenly went berserk and left her terribly injured in a brutal attack

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5344647/Woman-describes-demented-attack-Pit-Bull-Terrier.html

A woman has warned against pit bulls after her 'gentle' dog of nine years suddenly turned and launched a vicious attack which resulted in her losing an arm.

Traumatized Yasmin Adam, 45, was left lying in a pool of blood and fearing for her life after her beloved dog Sir Hinkles mauled her.

The brutal assault took place after Yasmin attempted to break up a play fight between Sir Hinkles and her two other dogs.

The previously good-natured animal suddenly started barking before launching himself at Yasmin, biting her ear and tearing flesh from her arms.

Yasmin says bloodthirsty Sir Hinkles, a nine-year-old red-nose pitbull, chewed on the bone in her left arm for nine minutes before police arrived and shot him dead.

The former quality control technician had recently moved to Fort Lauderdale, in Florida from Greenville, South Carolina, with her pets when the attack happened.

Yasmin said: 'I guess there was tension after the other dogs were fighting. Next thing I know he jumps up and bites my ear.

'I knew what was going on but I didn't feel any pain. I guess I was in shock.

'Sir Hinkles went back in his cage then, but all I can think of was that he got a taste of blood because he came right back out and bit me on my right arm.

'After that he attacked me on and off for nine minutes. The dog ripped all the meat off my lower left arm, and that's gone now.

'I just stopped fighting the dog. I figured I was going to die. He kept trying to pull the bone out of my arm.'

Fortunately, a friend who was also living in the apartment, alerted the police, who pepper sprayed the vicious dog before shooting him.

Doctors at Broward General Hospital, Florida, battled to save Yasmin's left arm for three weeks before it was decided that amputation was the only way forward.

She said: 'It was the most painful thing I've ever experienced in my life.

'I could see the bone clear as day. Eventually, they amputated it from just above my elbow on December 26.

'I'm just working on getting my right arm functional again. He ripped that arm apart too, but not as badly.

'I can't move my wrist and I have limited movement in my fingers. To be honest I thought I was going to die so to have just lost my arm I feel lucky.'

Yasmin, who is unmarried, was in hospital for six months after the attack and during her time there, her two other dogs were put down.

While Yasmin was upset she couldn't save them, she now warns people about the dangers of owning this breed of dog as, prior to the attack, Sir Hinkles had never shown signs of aggressive behavior.

She said: 'I loved him so much. He slept with me in my bed, he never was out of line.

'He was always so gentle with children and really friendly. He never snapped at cats or little kittens, he never touched a kitten.

'I didn't even have to put him on a leash because he was such a good-natured dog.'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307413)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307436)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: unholy violet reading party brunch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307440)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Saffron hell fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307464)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Smoky Locale Karate

"Yasmin, who is unmarried, was in hospital for six months after the attack and during her time there, her two other dogs were put down."

just in case losing one dog and an arm wasn't bad enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307483)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

I initially overlooked that. Six months. Jesus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307549)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: Hairraiser haunting pocket flask forum

"Yasmin, who is unmarried..."

Completely unneccessary and absolutely devastating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35322159)



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Date: February 21st, 2020 3:09 PM
Author: Aqua university dopamine

I mean sort of sets up the pay off of the other two dogs getting pwn3d, but yeah, at best totally unnecessary.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39630319)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 4:50 PM
Author: Plum floppy new version organic girlfriend

if she werr married, would never happened. lesson

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39625490)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Carnelian casino keepsake machete

Truly, a NIGGERDOG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307504)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Twinkling Histrionic Friendly Grandma Kitchen

"play fight" LJL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307516)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

Please focus on this:

The dog ripped all the meat off my lower left arm, and that's gone now.

'I just stopped fighting the dog. I figured I was going to die. He kept trying to pull the bone out of my arm.'



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307542)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Confused Crusty Legend

Bizarre as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321696)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

Yeah this is one of the most graphic news stories I've ever read

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321768)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307564)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: tantric trip abode

Amy video of the pit bull getting put down?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307569)



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Date: February 2nd, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Wine Garrison Tank

truly the nigger of the dog world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35307575)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:21 PM
Author: Chestnut bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35322055)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35319217)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 8:47 AM
Author: vibrant fuchsia church building hominid

this stuff is absolutely awful. fortunately it seems shitpit owner genes are getting weeded from the human population

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35319248)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: black legal warrant

How long before TMFs Sir Hinkles turns him into a pirozhki?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35319285)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Confused Crusty Legend

Never. Not even worried about that. Besides, my non-pit bull guard dog is much larger and stronger than her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321693)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: vibrant fuchsia church building hominid

cr TMF won't die. it's usually a shitpit owner's loved ones who suffer for his hubris and stupidity. your dog is probably biding his time and will snap once you finally produce offspring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321706)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: Mind-boggling nursing home

xo Sir Hinkles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35319293)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 9:11 AM
Author: opaque demanding juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35319304)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: bright center

her attitude is bizarre

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321676)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Smoky Locale Karate

what's odd about being glad to be alive?

assuming she's not an attorney

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321739)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

She seems awfully calm and detached about everything.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321764)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Smoky Locale Karate

well, it has been a while

personally, i get sick of everyone crying when talking about the past

"9 11? waaaaaaaahhhhh!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321786)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Appetizing godawful tanning salon coffee pot

This woman sounds fucked in the head. 90% chance she beat that dog and got what was coming to her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321794)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: avocado school cafeteria digit ratio

How are these dogs still legal in cities? At least this one attacked its owner and not some innocent bystander. Fuck shitpits and fuck their shitty owners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321953)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: Chestnut bawdyhouse

Good question. It's amazing and not at all surprising (considering they own a pitbull) the lack of understanding pit bull owners have about the basic logic in an argument over this with them.

Every single one - "oh but my pitbull Lucas was a sweetheart ..." etc. - they don't understand that we don't think literally every pitbull is going to kill someone, rather that even with a low rate of violent attacks, the lethality of a pitbull is so extraordinary that it's really unlike nearly every other dog attack on the planet.

Also consider that this breed even attacks their owners - anyone who has formed a bond with their puppydood knows this is unthinkable - but the brute thugs of the dog world will literally rip off the arm that feeds them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35322087)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: Smoky Locale Karate

and this one won't count as a fatality so it will get grouped with dog bites

i'm not a fan of banning much, including pits, but i'm not going to cry if they do

good point about even attacking owners. there is just a lot fucked up about pits. they are like late teen, early 20 guys. brain not developed = reckless behavior/attack owners. spontaneous schizophrenia = murder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35322199)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: naked spectacular trailer park feces

holy fuck. these "dogs" need to be illegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35321974)



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Date: February 4th, 2018 5:40 PM
Author: Hairraiser haunting pocket flask forum

Don't be mean to Yasmin!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35322170)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 7:55 AM
Author: bright center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35435634)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 8:00 AM
Author: magenta talented athletic conference

I thought if there was a link it would go this direction but jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35435642)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35436774)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: orange glittery lettuce temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35436808)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: orange glittery lettuce temple

jfc not even years of xo's scholarship on shitbulls could have prepared me for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35436806)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 4:41 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39625446)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Scarlet sick library azn

you can search "pit bull" in news section every day and get a news article like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35436855)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#35893546)



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Date: October 31st, 2019 9:01 AM
Author: Self-centered Chest-beating Office National Security Agency



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39051738)



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Date: February 24th, 2019 6:40 PM
Author: Shaky Lascivious Meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#37836820)



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Date: October 30th, 2019 6:43 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39049272)



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Date: October 31st, 2019 8:54 AM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39051719)



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Date: October 31st, 2019 9:05 AM
Author: impertinent institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39051751)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 4:34 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39625425)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 4:57 PM
Author: provocative flirting nowag

literal thugs of the dogworld.

i was on the fence, but i think it's clear that shitpits need to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39625537)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:19 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626225)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:20 PM
Author: buck-toothed native

the same xo poaster will read this but then argue that a real jewish hoocaust is too far

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626228)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:27 PM
Author: Hilarious cyan selfie

Lurking under the stories of all these "good pits gone bad" stories is that their owners (like this obese black woman) almost certainly abuse the fuck out of these dogs and involve them in dog fighting. Of course they don't admit it because most people don't freely admit their crimes and I'm sure many are drug dealers etc and can't have people pry into their personal life. So we get these nonsensical stories "he was a good dog never did nuffin."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626257)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:39 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

stop defending the dogs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626302)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:40 PM
Author: Hilarious cyan selfie

Wouldn't let my kid near a pit. U don't think they're disproportionately abused?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626313)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:41 PM
Author: Kink-friendly kitty son of senegal

Whether they are abused or not is totally and completely irrelevant. They'll bite the face off of your kid, kill your other pets, and turn on you whether they've been pampered since a puppy or not. They are demonic, evil pieces of shit and need to be extinct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626319)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:44 PM
Author: Hilarious cyan selfie

Irrelevant in terms of how I act around pitbulls, agreed. Not sure why would be irrelevant for purposes of discussion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626327)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:41 PM
Author: Self-centered Chest-beating Office National Security Agency

☝️ shitpit apologist right here.

how people treat these dogs is irrelevant. they are niggers to begin with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626317)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:43 PM
Author: Hilarious cyan selfie

Why can't we point out how awful their owners are?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626324)



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Date: February 20th, 2020 7:49 PM
Author: Self-centered Chest-beating Office National Security Agency

Because this is precisely the argument apologists use to thwart breed-based restrictions.

"Don't punish good dog owners because of a few bad apples" etc. Ownership has nothing to do with it. These are wild animals that have no business being domesticated. It's about as accurate as saying "it's not the alligator, it's how it's raised."



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39626350)



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Date: February 21st, 2020 1:45 PM
Author: Hilarious cyan selfie

What if I'm bringing it up because these attacks should trigger investigations of the owners for related criminal conduct?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39629824)



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Date: February 21st, 2020 1:50 PM
Author: Razzle ebony depressive

Gas all shitpits and their owners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39629844)



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Date: February 21st, 2020 1:56 PM
Author: Awkward field

lol at Sir Hinkles-- what a CUTE name!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3880344&forum_id=2#39629878)