2) even at higher levels you stop and go all the time, you're really working your anaerobic system not aerobic system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359290)

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3769132&mc=12&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359411)

2) The American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) defines aerobic exercise as "any activity that uses large muscle groups, can be maintained continuously, and is rhythmic in nature." By your own admission, basketball is not maintained continuously because you are stopping and going and being subbed in and out

http://www2.gsu.edu/~wwwfit/aerobice.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359367)

i fucking played sports at a competitive level; we always did cardio drills and my coach would have fucking laughed if we counted our sport as "cardio"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359383)

also running at a steady state pace for 20 minutes in undoubtedly cardio, whereas constant stop and go at a medium pace is not because you are working your anaerobic system at that point, not your aerobic system, and cardio is about working your aerobic system

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359459)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerobic_exercise#Aerobic_versus_anaerobic_exercise

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359585)

oh youre not doing cardio! youre getting cardio benefits AND OTHER BENEFITS so its not cardio.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35359735)

I think it went unnoticed because so many people were too frustrated at OP's IQ to keep reading.

Also OP, actual athletes do pure cardio because it helps them at the margins, which makes a big difference. Your argument is like saying 8-12 reps isn't strength training because real lifters stick to 6 reps and lower. Or yoga doesn't help muscle mobility because gymnists do pure stretching exercises. Or squats don't work quads because there are better pure quad exercises. Or a phd econ dude doesn't do calculus because he isn't a math major.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35360295)

You run a lot.

Are sprints not a form of cardio because you stop at times?

Is running not cardio if a ball is involved?

You’re raising your heart rate through running.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35360331)

a guy who plays basketball 2-3X weekly will be in significantly better cardio shape than a guy who doesn't. you're so dumb and bizarre that I'm ready to switch over to the crowd who thinks you're 100% long game flame with your health and fitness posting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35362786)

LO FUCKING L REALLY?????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35363193)

Also I thought walking is cardio. How is 30 min or HIIT cardio?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366181)

hiit really isn't cardio if you're doing it right because if you are doing a real max effort; your body is utilizing atp for fuel and can sustain a max effort for about 30 seconds; cardio is about working the aerobic system (with oxygen); HIIT isn't fueled by oxygen but by ATP + glucose (in other words aerobic --> oxygen + fat (primarily) --> cardio or anaerobic --> glucose + atp (primarily) --> interval training/stop and go like in sports) hiit/stop and go and walking are apples and oranges and work two different energy systems

"cardio" is aerobic which primarily relies on fat and some glucose (anytime you move a muscle you're using glucose)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366205)

2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAID_principle

if everything you do is explosive and anaerobic (not a bad thing) than you'll be conditioned for that; that said, you probably aren't going to be able to wake up tomorrow and run a marathon at a respectable pace, and i think marathons are stupid FYI; you can suck at marathons and people think you're impressive but you can't suck at sprinting. your body adapts to what you train it to do, if you train to be fast and explosive, you can run up and down the court, if you train to be a marathoner, you can jog for several hours without stopping

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366247)

real endurance athletes are doing shit like triathlons, marathons, multi-day races; the average "jogger" isn't really an endurance athlete, competitive runners log 80-100 miles a week minimum; my roommate did x-country and when peaking was running 10 miles in the morning and 10 in the evening; very built for endurance but he was a twink (5'11 and MAYBE 130)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366277)

this is cr

but to get to high level anerobic levels you need high level aerobic levels. i'll make it simple - if you want to dominate in bball etc you need to have high levels of stamina developed from consistent, lengthy aerobic sessions - jogging for long periods of time etc. stop and go sprinting during games doesn't develop that, it only reflects it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366165)

I recognize the RCP90 moniker but never had any opinion on him before this thread. Now I will forever think of him as a stubborn moron.

Sorry, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366166)

walking is cardio

hiit really isn't cardio if you're doing it right because if you are doing a real max effort; your body is utilizing atp for fuel and can sustain a max effort for about 30 seconds; cardio is about working the aerobic system (with oxygen); HIIT isn't fueled by oxygen but by ATP + glucose (in other words aerobic --> oxygen + fat (primarily) --> cardio or anaerobic --> glucose + atp (primarily) --> interval training/stop and go like in sports) hiit/stop and go and walking are apples and oranges and work two different energy systems

"cardio" is aerobic which primarily relies on fat and some glucose (anytime you move a muscle you're using glucose)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366209)

in general athletes need to be explosive so probably hiit; it's why coaches test the vertical jump and power clean but explosiveness is largely genetic; that's why the vertical jump, for the most part, can't be trained (you can add maybe 2 inches)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#35366236)

It's so crude and simplistic to believe that there's only two types of training, aerobic and anaerobic. The body is so much more complex than that. Elite aerobic athletes train in at least five training bands.

1. UT2

Light aerobic, low intensity work. Sustainable and fat burning.

General CV fitness.

Relaxed. Able to carry on a conversation.

2. UT1

Heavy aerobic work using more oxygen.

Higher level of CV fitness.

Working. Feel warmer. Heart rate and respiration up. May sweat.

3. Anaerobic Threshold.

Harder work. On the aerobic limit. Pushing into anaerobic area.

High level of CV fitness. Building mental and physical tolerance.

Hard work. Heart rate and respiration up. Carbon dioxide build up. Sweating. Breathing hard.

4. Oxygen Transportation.

Working hard. Unsustainable for long periods.

Developing oxygen transport to the muscles under stress. Increasing cardiac output.

Stressed. Panting. Sweating freely.

5. Anaerobic (without oxygen). Short bursts of maximum effort. Unsustainable.

Burning carbohydrate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887484&forum_id=2#37452860)