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Wife had normal delivery. Come ITT and GUESS how much the insurance charged!

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...
Big Purple Potus Sweet Tailpipe
  02/09/18
Why is a Gynecologist involved.
elite meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap
  02/09/18
$40k edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed in...
Pale mewling jewess national security agency
  02/09/18
Before reading on this is my best guess too.
Plum sanctuary telephone
  02/09/18
$10k.
Poppy locus
  02/09/18
$8,000?
fuchsia vigorous associate corn cake
  02/09/18
35k.
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
$668,000.
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
$5000
Boyish Green Lettuce
  02/09/18
70K?
erotic juggernaut market
  02/09/18
Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds ple...
Big Purple Potus Sweet Tailpipe
  02/09/18
If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of health...
Bossy hominid hall
  02/09/18
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Canary bateful black woman
  02/09/18
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razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set
  02/09/18
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Passionate aggressive menage
  02/09/18
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lascivious cordovan lodge pozpig
  02/09/18
Same
Sapphire hell
  02/09/18
you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
...
appetizing ruddy electric furnace
  02/09/18
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Free-loading cobalt pocket flask athletic conference
  02/09/18
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walnut site trump supporter
  02/09/18
lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in t...
supple chartreuse fat ankles
  02/09/18
...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%
dead pearly puppy
  02/09/18
not really a partisan issue, hoss.
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
lol
chrome floppy address deer antler
  02/09/18
JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by...
erotic juggernaut market
  02/09/18
...
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they too...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare,...
chrome floppy address deer antler
  02/09/18
drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex s...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being ab...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow,...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
also cr.
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $...
chrome floppy address deer antler
  02/09/18
it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's o...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar ...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the...
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on i...
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.
vivacious volcanic crater
  02/09/18
? Doctors are fucking faggots.
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
cr
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the bi...
ruby charismatic mother
  02/09/18
...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
...
cocky wrinkle
  02/09/18
I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current stat...
glittery costumed field
  02/09/18
So you paid $2500?
Razzmatazz blood rage
  02/09/18
Still an obscene amount of money.
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate...
irate stain church
  02/09/18
15k
Histrionic Know-it-all Gay Wizard Resort
  02/09/18
$5k
tantric fragrant friendly grandma
  02/09/18
If we had single payer and a government that set prices you ...
demanding topaz step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped t...
dead pearly puppy
  02/09/18
...
Aromatic high-end faggot firefighter forum
  02/09/18
Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of ev...
Aromatic high-end faggot firefighter forum
  02/09/18
Cr
Histrionic Know-it-all Gay Wizard Resort
  02/09/18
cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their...
Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt
  02/09/18
Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run someth...
Plum sanctuary telephone
  02/09/18
having experienced what you blithering retard?
Disgusting Feces
  02/09/18
I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of mi...
Plum sanctuary telephone
  02/09/18
OP makes no sense. Hospital charges for the best possible...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
*mother does all the work* *nurses yell at her for 15 hours...
erotic juggernaut market
  02/09/18
the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laugh...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
the idea the we need doctors for something women have done n...
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
and died doing at unnecessary rates
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupt...
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not kn...
erotic juggernaut market
  02/09/18
Cr. Just hang from a rope. https://birthinternational.com...
Razzmatazz blood rage
  02/09/18
That woman looks like she’s just fat
Sepia Internet-worthy Weed Whacker Stage
  02/09/18
yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd
Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt
  02/09/18
Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases...
Plum sanctuary telephone
  02/09/18
plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home people ...
erotic juggernaut market
  02/09/18
I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, ac...
Talented zippy national
  02/09/18
...
Arousing ebony gas station
  02/09/18
we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the devel...
chrome floppy address deer antler
  02/09/18
this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly stil...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the ac...
chrome floppy address deer antler
  02/09/18
we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother...
Adventurous organic girlfriend
  02/09/18
dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in ...
ruby charismatic mother
  02/09/18
Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking...
contagious sticky locale coldplay fan
  02/09/18
$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still...
ruby charismatic mother
  02/09/18
even cuba fucking pwns us>>> i wouldnt be so qu...
drunken base mediation
  02/09/18
*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.
ruby charismatic mother
  02/09/18
Ask the father to chip in
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  02/09/18
...
Iridescent nursing home mood
  02/09/18
...
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  02/09/18
lol
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  02/09/18
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contagious sticky locale coldplay fan
  02/09/18
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Disturbing regret
  02/09/18
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Diverse Lake Azn
  02/09/18
this would cost like $600 in Ukraine
razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set
  02/09/18
Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach....
Bright harsh really tough guy native
  02/09/18
Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry the...
dead pearly puppy
  02/09/18
? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.
contagious sticky locale coldplay fan
  02/09/18
I do not.
Bright harsh really tough guy native
  02/09/18
...
razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set
  02/09/18
Why would you assume this?
Bright harsh really tough guy native
  02/09/18
$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is...
Bright harsh really tough guy native
  02/09/18
LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back an...
Fishy Crawly Gaming Laptop
  02/09/18
u got ripped off
Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt
  02/09/18
Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k. For a c section...
Salmon Anal Theater Stage
  02/09/18
If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat,...
contagious sticky locale coldplay fan
  02/09/18
$100 flat? Must be an hmo? None of my docs take hmo.
Salmon Anal Theater Stage
  02/09/18
I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinchin...
Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt
  02/09/18


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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Big Purple Potus Sweet Tailpipe

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360658)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:48 AM
Author: elite meetinghouse mad-dog skullcap

Why is a Gynecologist involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361156)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Pale mewling jewess national security agency

$40k

edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed insurance co. insurance co. obviously negotiated down by like 60% and you paid your deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360663)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Plum sanctuary telephone

Before reading on this is my best guess too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362995)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Poppy locus

$10k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360664)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: fuchsia vigorous associate corn cake

$8,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360666)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

35k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360667)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Talented zippy national

$668,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360670)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Boyish Green Lettuce

$5000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: erotic juggernaut market

70K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360674)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Big Purple Potus Sweet Tailpipe

Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds please defend?

breakout was $51k hospital, $2.5k anesthesia, $7k gyno. Thank Allah our out-of-pocket max is something like $2500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360680)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: Bossy hominid hall

If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of healthcare conglomerates you'll get no pushback from me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360690)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:47 AM
Author: Canary bateful black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361155)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361175)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Passionate aggressive menage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362994)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: lascivious cordovan lodge pozpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363104)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: Sapphire hell

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365990)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood

you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360691)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:18 AM
Author: appetizing ruddy electric furnace



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361183)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Free-loading cobalt pocket flask athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362938)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: walnut site trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363039)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: supple chartreuse fat ankles

lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in the bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363073)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: dead pearly puppy

...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363229)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

not really a partisan issue, hoss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360692)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: chrome floppy address deer antler

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360708)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: erotic juggernaut market

JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360695)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360699)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they took our insurance on the phone, get to the place, they don't. i tell them we're gonna self pay. instead of 750, paid 225. was told any follow ups was the same deal.

the racket is set up to fuck people unless you're willing to pay up front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360710)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: chrome floppy address deer antler

daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare, not insurers, drug companies, or politicians. just boomer doctors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360724)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex series of negotiations happens and in many cases doctors have NO CONTROL over the costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360734)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being about the same plus maybe 50 bucks to the doctor and my cash now was worth me not walking out and getting a no sale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360744)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow, but the idea that the doc is responsible for high drug costs is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360746)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

also cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360750)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: chrome floppy address deer antler

strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $2,500 for a community college graduate to push the "RUN" button on an MRI machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360759)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's only the doctor's fault if they're doing it wrong, too much, at the wrong time, etc

otherwise it's on the payer, they set the reimbursement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360773)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar band aid, the 40 dollar meal, etc., pays for things like bad debts/charity care/various cost centers that snake through every hospital like a leviathan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360780)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood

It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the government and the insurers defrauding everyone. From OPs thing, the MDs probably saw like 100 bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360731)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: drunken base mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360741)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Talented zippy national

We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on it. Let nurses and essential workers at pharmaceutical & medical equipment companies live, and kill everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360760)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: vivacious volcanic crater

lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360889)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:23 AM
Author: Talented zippy national

? Doctors are fucking faggots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Talented zippy national

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360735)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: ruby charismatic mother

how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the billed amount is a total fiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360743)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: drunken base mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360745)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: cocky wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360793)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: glittery costumed field

I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current state of healthcare/insurance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362983)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Razzmatazz blood rage

So you paid $2500?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363050)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Talented zippy national

Still an obscene amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363113)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: irate stain church

Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate healthcare. How can you blame only Republicans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363237)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Histrionic Know-it-all Gay Wizard Resort

15k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: tantric fragrant friendly grandma

$5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360677)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: demanding topaz step-uncle's house

If we had single payer and a government that set prices you wouldn’t have this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360702)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360718)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: dead pearly puppy

"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped the Trumptard who has never step foot outside his country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363239)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Aromatic high-end faggot firefighter forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Aromatic high-end faggot firefighter forum

Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of every other first world country with no measurable improvement in healthcare outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363696)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Histrionic Know-it-all Gay Wizard Resort

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360754)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt

cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their checkbook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363066)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Plum sanctuary telephone

Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run something should be the absolute last resort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363084)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Disgusting Feces

having experienced what you blithering retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363201)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Plum sanctuary telephone

I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of millions of dollars worth of product purchased by the govt and received accolades, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363312)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

OP makes no sense.

Hospital charges for the best possible delivery in the world could easily be 50K. But the point of insurance is that you only pay something like a fraction of the total cost, I guess 2.5K, to have world class doctors and nurses helping.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360727)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: erotic juggernaut market

*mother does all the work*

*nurses yell at her for 15 hours to push*

*doctor pops in briefly for 15 minutes to supervise*

*MUH world class doctors and nurses halping*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360752)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laughable

people from around the planet sent their kids to have babies in the USA and pay CASH because we have the best OBGYNs and hospitals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360757)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood

the idea the we need doctors for something women have done naturally for ever is laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360761)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

and died doing at unnecessary rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360777)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood

counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupted a strong eugenic force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360785)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: erotic juggernaut market

primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not knowing about diseases, which people doing home births have addressed

you're probably more likely to contract a disease at a hospital than at home these days



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360850)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Razzmatazz blood rage

Cr. Just hang from a rope.

https://birthinternational.com/product/birth-support-rope/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363061)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Sepia Internet-worthy Weed Whacker Stage

That woman looks like she’s just fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35366223)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt

yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363077)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Plum sanctuary telephone

Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases in life expectancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363095)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: erotic juggernaut market

plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home

people only had issues in the past due to lack of cleanliness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360764)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Talented zippy national

I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360765)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: Arousing ebony gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360913)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: chrome floppy address deer antler

we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the developed world. even cuba fucking pwns us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360770)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly

still better than 1750s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360781)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: chrome floppy address deer antler

you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the actual points. is that why you're a doctor instead of a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360786)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: Adventurous organic girlfriend

we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother less likely than it was in the past; it's ridiculous to argue it's as safe or less safe than 100 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360797)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: ruby charismatic mother

dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in the us vs other countries with similar mortality rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363041)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: contagious sticky locale coldplay fan

Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking Slovenians pay $800, with 3x better outcomes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363265)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: ruby charismatic mother

$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still bonkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363315)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: drunken base mediation

even cuba fucking pwns us>>>

i wouldnt be so quick to trust their self reported statistics. they do shit like venezuela where they had a huge drop in child death due to malnutrition by making it illegal for doctors to file that a child died of malnutrition, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360794)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: ruby charismatic mother

*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360762)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: curious trailer park

Ask the father to chip in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360739)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Iridescent nursing home mood



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360747)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: smoky casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360873)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: honey-headed provocative hissy fit garrison

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362896)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: maroon trip rigor station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362918)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: contagious sticky locale coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362933)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Disturbing regret



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363200)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Diverse Lake Azn



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set

this would cost like $600 in Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361176)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Bright harsh really tough guy native

Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363047)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: dead pearly puppy

Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363242)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: contagious sticky locale coldplay fan

? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363283)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: Bright harsh really tough guy native

I do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363426)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: razzle-dazzle stubborn ape set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365984)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: Bright harsh really tough guy native

Why would you assume this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363417)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: Bright harsh really tough guy native

$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is going to cost that for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363034)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Fishy Crawly Gaming Laptop

LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back and lean against a tree to pop the kid out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363071)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt

u got ripped off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363088)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Salmon Anal Theater Stage

Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k.

For a c section they charged my insurance $100k lol. What a joke.

I paid $4k (max out of pocket).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: contagious sticky locale coldplay fan

If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat, out the door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363289)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Salmon Anal Theater Stage

$100 flat? Must be an hmo?

None of my docs take hmo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363326)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Concupiscible Crackhouse People Who Are Hurt

I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinching shithole. lol at putting the lives of your family in their hands just to save a few thousand bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364691)