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Wife had normal delivery. Come ITT and GUESS how much the insurance charged!

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...
Coiffed mexican boistinker
  02/09/18
Why is a Gynecologist involved.
Gay Bespoke Feces
  02/09/18
$40k edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed in...
Concupiscible sienna juggernaut headpube
  02/09/18
Before reading on this is my best guess too.
Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot
  02/09/18
$10k.
Carmine Organic Girlfriend
  02/09/18
$8,000?
swashbuckling emerald pozpig
  02/09/18
35k.
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
$668,000.
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
$5000
Marvelous range
  02/09/18
70K?
violet base idiot
  02/09/18
Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds ple...
Coiffed mexican boistinker
  02/09/18
If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of health...
mint rambunctious wagecucks temple
  02/09/18
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doobsian church milk
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racy apoplectic business firm
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exhilarant antidepressant drug faggotry
  02/09/18
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Azure elite chad station
  02/09/18
Same
razzmatazz hominid marketing idea
  02/09/18
you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
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Diverse Fuchsia Ape
  02/09/18
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Stimulating multi-billionaire candlestick maker
  02/09/18
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impertinent glittery ratface
  02/09/18
lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in t...
Green Arousing Queen Of The Night Theater Stage
  02/09/18
...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%
Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit
  02/09/18
not really a partisan issue, hoss.
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
lol
Hairraiser irate yarmulke area
  02/09/18
JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by...
violet base idiot
  02/09/18
...
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they too...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare,...
Hairraiser irate yarmulke area
  02/09/18
drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex s...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being ab...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow,...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
also cr.
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $...
Hairraiser irate yarmulke area
  02/09/18
it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's o...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar ...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the...
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on i...
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.
transparent theatre hairy legs
  02/09/18
? Doctors are fucking faggots.
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
cr
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the bi...
Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital
  02/09/18
...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
...
ungodly party of the first part sanctuary
  02/09/18
I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current stat...
aqua stock car
  02/09/18
So you paid $2500?
translucent mildly autistic knife
  02/09/18
Still an obscene amount of money.
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate...
Nofapping kitchen black woman
  02/09/18
15k
Excitant trust fund heaven
  02/09/18
$5k
very tactful step-uncle's house
  02/09/18
If we had single payer and a government that set prices you ...
Galvanic plaza
  02/09/18
you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped t...
Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit
  02/09/18
...
Floppy affirmative action
  02/09/18
Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of ev...
Floppy affirmative action
  02/09/18
Cr
Excitant trust fund heaven
  02/09/18
cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their...
Pungent cuckoldry point
  02/09/18
Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run someth...
Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot
  02/09/18
having experienced what you blithering retard?
insecure death wish
  02/09/18
I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of mi...
Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot
  02/09/18
OP makes no sense. Hospital charges for the best possible...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
*mother does all the work* *nurses yell at her for 15 hours...
violet base idiot
  02/09/18
the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laugh...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
the idea the we need doctors for something women have done n...
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
and died doing at unnecessary rates
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupt...
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not kn...
violet base idiot
  02/09/18
Cr. Just hang from a rope. https://birthinternational.com...
translucent mildly autistic knife
  02/09/18
That woman looks like she’s just fat
Light odious fortuitous meteor tattoo
  02/09/18
yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd
Pungent cuckoldry point
  02/09/18
Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases...
Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot
  02/09/18
plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home people ...
violet base idiot
  02/09/18
I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, ac...
Filthy address halford
  02/09/18
...
Crusty dilemma
  02/09/18
we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the devel...
Hairraiser irate yarmulke area
  02/09/18
this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly stil...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the ac...
Hairraiser irate yarmulke area
  02/09/18
we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother...
Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams
  02/09/18
dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in ...
Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital
  02/09/18
Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking...
Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder
  02/09/18
$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still...
Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital
  02/09/18
even cuba fucking pwns us>>> i wouldnt be so qu...
laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole
  02/09/18
*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.
Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital
  02/09/18
Ask the father to chip in
thriller adulterous native
  02/09/18
...
Glassy misunderstood corner
  02/09/18
...
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  02/09/18
lol
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Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder
  02/09/18
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Salmon big philosopher-king windowlicker
  02/09/18
this would cost like $600 in Ukraine
racy apoplectic business firm
  02/09/18
Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach....
French stead jap
  02/09/18
Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry the...
Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit
  02/09/18
? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.
Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder
  02/09/18
I do not.
French stead jap
  02/09/18
...
racy apoplectic business firm
  02/09/18
Why would you assume this?
French stead jap
  02/09/18
$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is...
French stead jap
  02/09/18
LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back an...
Onyx Outnumbered Center Brethren
  02/09/18
u got ripped off
Pungent cuckoldry point
  02/09/18
Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k. For a c section...
bull headed snowy spot
  02/09/18
If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat,...
Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder
  02/09/18
$100 flat? Must be an hmo? None of my docs take hmo.
bull headed snowy spot
  02/09/18
I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinchin...
Pungent cuckoldry point
  02/09/18


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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Coiffed mexican boistinker

hospital, anesthesiologist and gynecologist combined charged...?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360658)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:48 AM
Author: Gay Bespoke Feces

Why is a Gynecologist involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361156)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Concupiscible sienna juggernaut headpube

$40k

edit: assuming you're asking what hospital billed insurance co. insurance co. obviously negotiated down by like 60% and you paid your deductible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360663)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot

Before reading on this is my best guess too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362995)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Carmine Organic Girlfriend

$10k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360664)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: swashbuckling emerald pozpig

$8,000?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360666)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

35k.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360667)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Filthy address halford

$668,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360670)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Marvelous range

$5000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: violet base idiot

70K?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360674)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: Coiffed mexican boistinker

Closest! $60k! American medicine at its finest. Conturds please defend?

breakout was $51k hospital, $2.5k anesthesia, $7k gyno. Thank Allah our out-of-pocket max is something like $2500.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360680)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:12 AM
Author: mint rambunctious wagecucks temple

If you'd like to start executing globalist leaders of healthcare conglomerates you'll get no pushback from me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360690)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:47 AM
Author: doobsian church milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361155)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: racy apoplectic business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361175)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: exhilarant antidepressant drug faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362994)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Azure elite chad station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363104)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: razzmatazz hominid marketing idea

Same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365990)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner

you paid for the delivery of the spawn of 10 illegals, btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360691)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:18 AM
Author: Diverse Fuchsia Ape



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361183)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Stimulating multi-billionaire candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362938)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: impertinent glittery ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363039)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Green Arousing Queen Of The Night Theater Stage

lol no. use of the medical system by illegals is a drop in the bucket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363073)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit

...but mostly the scummy execs who mark up their prices 800%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363229)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

not really a partisan issue, hoss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360692)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Hairraiser irate yarmulke area

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360708)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: violet base idiot

JFC - we need to line these fuckers up and shoot them one by one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360695)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360699)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

had to go to the doctor for something, we were told they took our insurance on the phone, get to the place, they don't. i tell them we're gonna self pay. instead of 750, paid 225. was told any follow ups was the same deal.

the racket is set up to fuck people unless you're willing to pay up front.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360710)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Hairraiser irate yarmulke area

daily reminder that doctors are the problem with healthcare, not insurers, drug companies, or politicians. just boomer doctors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360724)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

drug companies set a manufacturer price and then a complex series of negotiations happens and in many cases doctors have NO CONTROL over the costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360734)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

cr. my 750 bill with insurance would have ended up being about the same plus maybe 50 bucks to the doctor and my cash now was worth me not walking out and getting a no sale.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360744)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

physicians can only charge what the payer is going to allow, but the idea that the doc is responsible for high drug costs is insane

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360746)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

also cr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360750)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Hairraiser irate yarmulke area

strawman. drug companies can't be blamed for why it costs $2,500 for a community college graduate to push the "RUN" button on an MRI machine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360759)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

it's true they're not responsible for a procedure but it's only the doctor's fault if they're doing it wrong, too much, at the wrong time, etc

otherwise it's on the payer, they set the reimbursement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360773)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

tbf, a lot of stuff at a hospital is offsets. the 5 dollar band aid, the 40 dollar meal, etc., pays for things like bad debts/charity care/various cost centers that snake through every hospital like a leviathan.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360780)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner

It's all hospital MBA frauds defrauding the insurers and the government and the insurers defrauding everyone. From OPs thing, the MDs probably saw like 100 bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360731)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360741)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Filthy address halford

We just can't be sure of that. The doctors might be in on it. Let nurses and essential workers at pharmaceutical & medical equipment companies live, and kill everyone else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360760)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:52 AM
Author: transparent theatre hairy legs

lmao the mental retardation on xo is breathtaking.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360889)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:23 AM
Author: Filthy address halford

? Doctors are fucking faggots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 AM
Author: Filthy address halford

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360735)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital

how much did your insurance actually pay? $20k or so? the billed amount is a total fiction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360743)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360745)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: ungodly party of the first part sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360793)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 PM
Author: aqua stock car

I'm sorry, how are conturds responsible for the current state of healthcare/insurance?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362983)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: translucent mildly autistic knife

So you paid $2500?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363050)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Filthy address halford

Still an obscene amount of money.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363113)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Nofapping kitchen black woman

Obamacare passed because it hard-wired profits for corporate healthcare. How can you blame only Republicans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363237)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Excitant trust fund heaven

15k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: very tactful step-uncle's house

$5k

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360677)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:15 AM
Author: Galvanic plaza

If we had single payer and a government that set prices you wouldn’t have this issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360702)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:17 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

you'd have a whole set of new issues tho.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360718)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit

"But...but..the waiting lines in Canada!" Lisped the Trumptard who has never step foot outside his country

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363239)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Floppy affirmative action



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363675)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Floppy affirmative action

Yeah, but one of them wouldn’t be spending double that of every other first world country with no measurable improvement in healthcare outcomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363696)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Excitant trust fund heaven

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360754)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Pungent cuckoldry point

cr. prices always go down once the govt starts opening their checkbook

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363066)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:39 PM
Author: Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot

Having experienced it first hand, having the govt run something should be the absolute last resort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363084)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: insecure death wish

having experienced what you blithering retard?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363201)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot

I've personally signed off on the literal incineration of millions of dollars worth of product purchased by the govt and received accolades, faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363312)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

OP makes no sense.

Hospital charges for the best possible delivery in the world could easily be 50K. But the point of insurance is that you only pay something like a fraction of the total cost, I guess 2.5K, to have world class doctors and nurses helping.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360727)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: violet base idiot

*mother does all the work*

*nurses yell at her for 15 hours to push*

*doctor pops in briefly for 15 minutes to supervise*

*MUH world class doctors and nurses halping*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360752)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

the idea that "mom" knows what to do here is laughable

people from around the planet sent their kids to have babies in the USA and pay CASH because we have the best OBGYNs and hospitals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360757)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner

the idea the we need doctors for something women have done naturally for ever is laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360761)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

and died doing at unnecessary rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360777)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:27 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner

counterpoint: most everyone that is alive now, we've disrupted a strong eugenic force

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360785)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 AM
Author: violet base idiot

primarily because of infections, lack of cleanliness, not knowing about diseases, which people doing home births have addressed

you're probably more likely to contract a disease at a hospital than at home these days



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360850)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: translucent mildly autistic knife

Cr. Just hang from a rope.

https://birthinternational.com/product/birth-support-rope/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363061)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Light odious fortuitous meteor tattoo

That woman looks like she’s just fat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35366223)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Pungent cuckoldry point

yea 40% infant mortality rates were nbd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363077)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: Appetizing big-titted genital piercing coffee pot

Cr. This represents nearly all of mankind's recent increases in life expectancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363095)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: violet base idiot

plenty of women give birth with a midwife at home

people only had issues in the past due to lack of cleanliness

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360764)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Filthy address halford

I think it is for the anchor baby birthright citizenship, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360765)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:57 AM
Author: Crusty dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360913)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:25 AM
Author: Hairraiser irate yarmulke area

we have one of the worst infant mortality rates in the developed world. even cuba fucking pwns us

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360770)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:26 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

this is a really complicated q but it's poors mostly

still better than 1750s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360781)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: Hairraiser irate yarmulke area

you seem to really be struggling here with addressing the actual points. is that why you're a doctor instead of a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360786)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:30 AM
Author: Aquamarine motley hissy fit laser beams

we pay because it costs $$$ to make death of baby and mother less likely than it was in the past; it's ridiculous to argue it's as safe or less safe than 100 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360797)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital

dude, isn’t the real question why it costs like 30x more in the us vs other countries with similar mortality rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363041)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder

Yeah, we pay $60K to decrease that likelihood, while fucking Slovenians pay $800, with 3x better outcomes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_and_under-five_mortality_rates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363265)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital

$60k is a fiction, but it’s more like 10-20k, which is still bonkers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363315)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:29 AM
Author: laughsome bat shit crazy newt prole

even cuba fucking pwns us>>>

i wouldnt be so quick to trust their self reported statistics. they do shit like venezuela where they had a huge drop in child death due to malnutrition by making it illegal for doctors to file that a child died of malnutrition, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360794)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:24 AM
Author: Pea-brained coldplay fan hospital

*$2.5k plus $10k/year of premiums in perpetuity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360762)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:20 AM
Author: thriller adulterous native

Ask the father to chip in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360739)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:22 AM
Author: Glassy misunderstood corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360747)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:47 AM
Author: Coral trip brunch old irish cottage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35360873)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Sooty razzle-dazzle new version meetinghouse

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362896)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: godawful lake ticket booth love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362918)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35362933)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Duck-like Insane Chapel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363200)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Salmon big philosopher-king windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364672)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 3:10 AM
Author: racy apoplectic business firm

this would cost like $600 in Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35361176)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: French stead jap

Which, with a surrogate is probably going to be my approach.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363047)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: Jet-lagged weed whacker orchestra pit

Uh...if you're going to have a kid shouldn't mandy carry them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363242)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder

? He means surrogate Chad father from Ukraine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363283)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: French stead jap

I do not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363426)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: racy apoplectic business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35365984)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: French stead jap

Why would you assume this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363417)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:33 PM
Author: French stead jap

$60k? I suspect the whole thing with a fucking surrogate is going to cost that for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363034)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: Onyx Outnumbered Center Brethren

LJL. Many women throughout history would just go out back and lean against a tree to pop the kid out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363071)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: Pungent cuckoldry point

u got ripped off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363088)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: bull headed snowy spot

Vaginal birth with one night stay? $50k.

For a c section they charged my insurance $100k lol. What a joke.

I paid $4k (max out of pocket).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363191)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: Soggy Dashing Casino Mental Disorder

If you're gonna have more you should cop Kaiser. $100 flat, out the door.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363289)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: bull headed snowy spot

$100 flat? Must be an hmo?

None of my docs take hmo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35363326)



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Date: February 9th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Pungent cuckoldry point

I had kaiser for a year. complete bureaucratic pennypinching shithole. lol at putting the lives of your family in their hands just to save a few thousand bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3887653&forum_id=2#35364691)