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Court orders full restoration of DACA program
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: bat shit crazy orchestra pit blood rage https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/feb/13/court-orders-full-restoration-daca-program/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394895) |
Date: February 13th, 2018 4:13 PM Author: Henna glittery office How does the POTUS not have the power to end it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394916) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: snowy violent headpube They're saying that it's a violation of the APA.
Not an admin law guy, but using the APA to attack the renunciation of a executive rule seems very weird |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:00 PM Author: swollen violent double fault lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395353) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394922) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib these fucking "judges" have no shame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394925) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: concupiscible stag film If only Trump wanted to become the permanent Defender of the Constitution... ugh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394927) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: low-t becky place of business LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBSSSSSSSSS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394928) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Azure Rambunctious State we have to get rid of 'judges' what a silly convention to have 'judges' in a society |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Fragrant Well-lubricated Cruise Ship Organic Girlfriend we have to get rid of (((judges))) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35401939) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: ebony gaped theater insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394933) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Adventurous flesh piazza candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394958) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: orchid titillating range Making it impossible to take them seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394963) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Scarlet stirring death wish so "this program that aims to flout immigration law via executive order is illegal" = not a good enough reason to end DACA not right away, not in a week, not in a month, but several months after the announcement date fuck it, martial law |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:20 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394983) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: concupiscible stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396548) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:15 AM Author: Provocative church building brethren I’ve been dating this for FUCKING YEARS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399374) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: talented aqua turdskin That's what Trump gets for being pure shit at actually governing. Unforced errors all over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35394998) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: Sapphire Home yep this is all on Trump. really great point you made there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395288) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: talented aqua turdskin You know he's sloppy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396246) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: Floppy Church Mother Sounds like he's right in this case. You can do things in a way that's likely to withstand legal scrutiny, or you can do it sloppy. Which has Trump done time after time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398740) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:16 AM Author: Provocative church building brethren You’re a fucking moron
Give me back my worthless draggies |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Bisexual plaza Not a surprising result given the judge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395022) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Vermilion gaming laptop Can someone link to the opinion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395024) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: snowy violent headpube One link I found:
http://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2018/images/02/13/orderdaca.pdf |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:37 PM Author: Vermilion gaming laptop Thanks.
Wow, just wow, on this opinion. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:10 PM Author: Bearded aquamarine roommate Trump: DACA is over.
Judge: You didn't use the magic words. |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:37 AM Author: Opaque doctorate [Scalia skyhooking an infinite can of Ragu towards a wall it will never reach in hell] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398750) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396594) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:27 PM Author: Drunken National so the president needs more "sound legal reasons" than "it's illegal".
got it. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Fluffy Big-titted Wrinkle At what point does this wander into constitutional crisis territory? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395063) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: bat shit crazy orchestra pit blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395154) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:09 PM Author: Drunken National We're in loony tunes now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396125) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: marvelous stock car I've poasted about this before, but sooner or later Trump is gonna say fuck it and start ignoring court orders. These judges think they can make shit up to mean whatever they want, and they're gonna put us all in a bad spot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396183) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396345) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396595) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:17 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396596) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: salmon pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397656) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:17 AM Author: Provocative church building brethren Months ago
Congress needs to impeach this nigger |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Amber Wonderful Background Story Isnt DACA based on Executive’s authority to exercise discretion in what to prosecute? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395059) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: snowy violent headpube Yes, but if they want to end it they need to have a sound legal reason, according to the judge. And since their legal reason wasn't sound, ending DACA violates the APA.
Which seems dumb. Who cares if the President was wrong in his legal conclusion that DACA was unconstitutional? How is that any less rational than just saying "I don't like this program and therefore it's gone"??
Admin is retarded |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:42 PM Author: Amber Wonderful Background Story Isnt this fundamentally a poltical question? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395180) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:43 PM Author: snowy violent headpube Yes. These opinions are dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395184) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: swollen violent double fault lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395361) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Passionate heaven rigpig It should violate Due Process, not the APA. What does the APA have to do with an executive order? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396984) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: Hilarious Iridescent Digit Ratio Mexican who cares? Congress will fix this before it matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395130) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Laughsome Avocado Box Office Azn tanks trumps leverage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395205) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:56 PM Author: Hilarious Iridescent Digit Ratio Mexican Not really. Republicans have been relying on "March 5 is not a real deadline" much more than Democrats. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395320) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:06 PM Author: Laughsome Avocado Box Office Azn yea but now both sides know that theres *really* no deadline. dems cant make any substantial concessions while this is out there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395406) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: Bearded aquamarine roommate who cares??? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395280) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: orchid titillating range Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395308) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:39 PM Author: pungent cerise meetinghouse keepsake machete Law is fraud
Lol at you lolyers |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Passionate heaven rigpig Law is not fraud, lawyers are fraud. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396989) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:40 PM Author: spectacular know-it-all center philosopher-king You must have a sound legal reason for enforcing existing laws! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395169) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Bisexual plaza This is outrageous. Gaurafis knows it too, but he doesn't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395213) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 4:49 PM Author: Fluffy Big-titted Wrinkle My guess is that if you're a judge in a shitlibia, and you want to advance your career, this is what is expected of you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395252) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: snowy violent headpube The only thing a district Court judge cares about is getting on the COA - do politically charged opinions like this even help with that? I would have guessed DCt judges try to be as non-controversial as possible to win Congressional support (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395382) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:13 PM Author: Fluffy Big-titted Wrinkle I have no idea. Maybe he's hoping his fealty to the cause will be rewarded by a later shitlib president? You know, standing up to facism, etc., whatever these assholes delude themselves into thinking.
You know there's all this hero worship of early civil rights decisions from judges like Julius Warring, maybe he's thinking that his decision puts him in a league with him?
I have no idea why else, most college undergrads could probably point out the flaws in this decision. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: chartreuse crotch there have been judges that move into executive branch, law firms, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396447) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:17 PM Author: Passionate heaven rigpig I don't think so. Isn't Rakoff a titan? Still, NO2dCirPWNED. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396991) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:18 AM Author: Provocative church building brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399380) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: contagious boistinker isn't he the same judge who lowered standards for minority firemen or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396526) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:01 PM Author: Cowardly Mauve New Version funny that the whole "sound reason" schtick is a revival of substantive due process, but from the left this time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395356) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: thirsty pit Plz don't be a lawyer who ever took an admin law class. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398730) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396348) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:03 PM Author: Bearded aquamarine roommate though time-consuming, i like the idea of SCOTUS smacking down all these sniveling fags on issues like daca and the travel ban. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395385) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: Federal site lol @ SCOTUS "smacking down" anything. Nothing will change until Congress grows enough balls to start impeaching these judges. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:10 PM Author: Bearded aquamarine roommate Trump will win on both these issues if they get in front of SCOTUS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395462) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: Stimulating Awkward Hospital Dysfunction (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396146) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Drunken National (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396247) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: Federal site of course he will, but these judges are still there and will continue to make insane rulings. Judges have no skin in the game. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396349) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 5:05 PM Author: Out-of-control police squad parlour DANCE INTO THE FIRE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35395396) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib This is infuriating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396352) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: brilliant kink-friendly kitty PWNED!!!!!! Judges to Trump/Trumptards: how's my ass taste? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396424) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: Sinister Navy Codepig Just wait til SCOTUS tells judges HOWS ARE ASS TASTE? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396671) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 4:19 AM Author: Provocative church building brethren This is what living in India is like so you must love it right pp? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35399383) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: chartreuse crotch can't this admin get a couple of conservaheroes to do this shit right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396452) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: medicated theater stage macaca This doesn't line up at all with how I learned admin law. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35396583) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 8:19 PM Author: Vivacious tan stead fat ankles Infuriating but not surprising. You have cloistered lib judges who hate Trump, supported by naive 26-year-old lib clerks who hate Trump. Typically judges even if very lib or very conservative have the wisdom and judgment to curb their clerks' ideological excesses and to stay within the bounds of the law. Now it seems like they're mutually enabling each other, ruling against Trump whenever they see a legal rationale for doing so that is less than 100% frivolous.
The ruling here is similar to the travel ban ruling, in that they take presidential decisions where typically POTUS enjoys near absolute deference, and subject them to a test where the judge has to find the justification for action persuasive in order to uphold it.
As someone mentioned earlier, yes, this is moving in the direction of a constitutional crisis. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:37 PM Author: Drunken National This is very dangerous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397627) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397631) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:46 PM Author: Disturbing chapel shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397693) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: salmon pozpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397719) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:34 PM Author: cobalt arousing quadroon gay wizard Can’t the administration just give another reason tomorrow. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397613) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:36 PM Author: marvelous stock car Do you think Hawaii judge will find that the reason is legally sufficient? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397623) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:38 PM Author: Drunken National Exactly. No reason is sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397633) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:39 PM Author: orchid titillating range No reason to deport the beautiful dreamers could possibly be sufficient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397640) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:41 PM Author: Drunken National Unreal. I really hope SCOTUS acts quickly. I really dont put this on DACA applicants. They might as well be like STFU hes actually trying to help us. Thats the fucked up thing here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397655) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: orchid titillating range That’s another amazing thing here. This judge just basically interfered in the negotiations. If this tanks the bill (which I hoap it does) and SCOTUS overturns the dreamers are completely fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397667) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: Passionate heaven rigpig 180-D chess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397679) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:45 PM Author: Heady arrogant boltzmann 8636446353 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397681) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: salmon pozpig Amazing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397724) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:42 PM Author: cobalt arousing quadroon gay wizard They’d try. This incorrect legal conclusion justification allows them to sidestep other admin case law. Fix the memo and they can’t hide behind it.
SCOTUS won’t allow lower courts to veto the president. |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:50 PM Author: Razzle faggot firefighter giraffe Reminder: libs don't believe in the rule of law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397726) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:22 AM Author: Out-of-control police squad parlour It's war pal. Is your precious rule of law going to help you when you're on the train to Andersonville? Ha not likely my friend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35398910) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: Jade Patrolman Milk I for one welcome the complete delegitimization of the judiciary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397739) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: Scarlet stirring death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397785) |
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Date: February 13th, 2018 10:01 PM Author: boyish trump supporter garrison I'm going to begin leaving my clerkship off my resume. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35397802) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:19 PM Author: talented aqua turdskin Look at the Little Eichmann over here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3892127&forum_id=2#35401620) |
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Date: February 14th, 2018 1:24 AM Author: Out-of-control police squad parlour WE CAN DANCE IF WE WANT TO WE CAN LEAVE YOUR FRIENDS BEHIND 'CAUSE YOUR FRIENDS DON'T DANCE AND IF THEY DON'T DANCE WELL, THEY'RE NO FRIENDS OF MINE |