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So gun violence in U.S. is due to "mentally ill people" BUT...

Every country on earth has homicidal mentally ill people, an...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Nope. Sorry. Never gonna happen.
Fuchsia Heaven Filthpig
  02/16/18
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Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma
  02/16/18
it's not the guns, you stupid fuck
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
Yeah, but it is though, you actual stupid fuck.
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
oh really? https://imgur.com/a/CJAgG
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
Very low IQ response
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
(Because it takes an IQ of 140 to observe that blacks are re...
Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma
  02/16/18
how, exactly? we don't have a gun problem in the united stat...
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
Between your responses ITT and your moniker, it's Low IQ sht...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Date: February 16th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: Pooooooop out of...
Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma
  02/16/18
My moniker is very entertaining and fun, high IQ territory.
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Oh. Ok.
Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma
  02/16/18
This is irrelevant because even if it were true, you can ban...
glittery box office community account
  02/16/18
Certain groups in the US have the same or lower rates of 'gu...
beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry
  02/16/18
...
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
1. well off democrats 2. republicans
Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin
  02/16/18
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Crystalline disgusting boltzmann
  02/16/18
India has 1/3 annual gun deaths of the USA, substantially lo...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
...
Crystalline disgusting boltzmann
  02/16/18
They already do in San Francisco.
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Sorry, can't argue with facts. We're going to change the ...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
We should heavily prosecute and enhance penalties for crimes...
beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry
  02/16/18
We should basically have the gun laws that Japan has. Do ...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
I agree.
mentally impaired telephone location
  02/16/18
I'd rather avoid using black gun violence as a pretext to de...
beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry
  02/16/18
Black folk like Stephen Paddock and Adam Lanza and Nikolas C...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Do you understand numbers?
beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry
  02/16/18
...
Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma
  02/16/18
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erotic indian lodge ratface
  02/16/18
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Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
Yes. Do you understand decades of gang violence, economic an...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
ergo, gun violence is a disease like alcoholism
Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin
  02/16/18
Gang violence is a separate problem. Every country on earth ...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
why don't we start by banning gangs, then?
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
This argument is a canard and intellectually pathetic. We ca...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
because you can't come up with laws that accomplish the goal...
Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin
  02/16/18
What "rights"? Are we going back to the second ame...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
Under Heller, we could have a law that says you can have a h...
Puce Hairraiser Therapy
  02/16/18
we never left it. you propose your statist japanese gun law...
Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin
  02/16/18
The second amendment guarantees the people's right to keep a...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
it's common sense that all of these proposed laws infringe o...
Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin
  02/16/18
"it's common sense that all of these proposed laws infr...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
https://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/70_fi...
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
https://i.imgur.com/83O0ShW.jpg
Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter
  02/16/18
the adjustment for population size is completely wrong as a ...
vengeful native coffee pot
  02/16/18
Odd how we had guns and mentally ill people and almost no ma...
marvelous ceo
  02/16/18
look, just stop. america has spoken. america wants guns an...
vengeful native coffee pot
  02/16/18
lol if you think other countries have the level of mental il...
Peach drunken crackhouse
  02/16/18
You may be onto something actually.
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
You're not getting rid of guns in the US. Ever. Know why? Bl...
Turquoise Odious Principal's Office Mood
  02/16/18
Yes but this paranoid ideation has no basis in reality. Unfo...
Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line
  02/16/18
The more you say it has no basis in reality -- and that &quo...
Turquoise Odious Principal's Office Mood
  02/16/18
I don't like guns and don't really give a shit if we ban the...
erotic indian lodge ratface
  02/16/18
i couldn’t give less of a fuck about guns. i say ban them al...
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  02/16/18


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Date: February 16th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Every country on earth has homicidal mentally ill people, and yet a mere fraction of the gun violence of the United States.

It's the guns, period. We need to bring our laws in line with the rest of the world where countries don't suffer the thousands of needless deaths annually we suffer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416073)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Fuchsia Heaven Filthpig

Nope. Sorry. Never gonna happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416081)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416280)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

it's not the guns, you stupid fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416084)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Yeah, but it is though, you actual stupid fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416107)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

oh really? https://imgur.com/a/CJAgG

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416183)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Very low IQ response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416235)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma

(Because it takes an IQ of 140 to observe that blacks are remarkably more violent and responsible for most of the gun violence in the US)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416299)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

how, exactly? we don't have a gun problem in the united states. we have a 'diversity' problem.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416304)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Between your responses ITT and your moniker, it's Low IQ shtick?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416312)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma

Date: February 16th, 2018 10:26 AM

Author: Pooooooop out of my butthold

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416359)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

My moniker is very entertaining and fun, high IQ territory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416384)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma

Oh. Ok.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416474)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: glittery box office community account

This is irrelevant because even if it were true, you can ban guns but you can't ban people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416424)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry

Certain groups in the US have the same or lower rates of 'gun violence' as these peaceful nations you speak of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416085)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416089)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin

1. well off democrats

2. republicans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416337)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Crystalline disgusting boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416094)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:03 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

India has 1/3 annual gun deaths of the USA, substantially lower.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416104)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Crystalline disgusting boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416167)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

They already do in San Francisco.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416173)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Sorry, can't argue with facts.

We're going to change the gun laws in this country. We're going to greatly reduce mass shootings even though Republicans don't want to.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2018/02/15/586014065/deaths-from-gun-violence-how-the-u-s-compares-to-the-rest-of-the-world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416095)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry

We should heavily prosecute and enhance penalties for crimes associated with fire arms and unlawful possession. Agree?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416113)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

We should basically have the gun laws that Japan has.

Do you disagree that if we enacted laws similar to Japan in the United States, that annual deaths from gun violence would decrease by a large margin in the US?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416137)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: mentally impaired telephone location

I agree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416154)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:18 AM
Author: beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry

I'd rather avoid using black gun violence as a pretext to deprive lawfully abiding citizens of their constitutional rights. That seems wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416236)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Black folk like Stephen Paddock and Adam Lanza and Nikolas Cruz?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416289)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: beady-eyed shimmering senate cuckoldry

Do you understand numbers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416292)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Massive Friendly Grandma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416310)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: erotic indian lodge ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416317)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:27 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416320)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Yes. Do you understand decades of gang violence, economic and social deprivation may have played a part in the higher rates of gun violence in poor African-American communities?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416345)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin

ergo, gun violence is a disease

like alcoholism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416368)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Gang violence is a separate problem. Every country on earth has some gang violence, even ethnically homogeneous states like Japan, and yet, Japan had 6 gun deaths in 2014 and the US had 33,000.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416398)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

why don't we start by banning gangs, then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416371)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

This argument is a canard and intellectually pathetic. We can enact laws that will vastly reduce the number of gun deaths in the United States and save countless lives. I am not sure why you or anyone would be opposed to this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416406)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin

because you can't come up with laws that accomplish the goal without a disproportionate negative impact on people's rights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416453)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

What "rights"? Are we going back to the second amendment again? We can enact laws similar to other countries without violating the second amendment. Enacting laws like those in Japan actually safeguard gun ownership rather than infringe on "rights".

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416473)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Puce Hairraiser Therapy

Under Heller, we could have a law that says you can have a hand gun in your home, nowhere else. Everything else is banned. We could have universal healthcare that includes mental illness.

We have made the political choice not to do those things, and we have random massacres every few months because ... well, FREEDOM.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416507)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin

we never left it.

you propose your statist japanese gun laws outright. don't allude to unspecified laws. name the ones you want.

and then go back to my point and refute it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416518)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

The second amendment guarantees the people's right to keep and hold arms, or so those who oppose any kind of gun control laws argue (let's leave the militia part out, like they conveniently do).

Okay, so what laws can we have to would bring gun deaths down from tens of thousands annually to negligible levels similar to most other countries on earth, without infringing on the esoteric and shifting definition of "liberty" used by those who oppose these laws. Don't victims of violence also have rights?

Japan is an incredible free country by the way, with plenty of liberty.

What laws do I want? I want the ones that they have. They seem to work most well.

The more guns you have in a society, the more gun violence there will be. This is irrefutable.

If you want to buy a gun in Japan you have to attend an all-day class, take a written exam and pass a shooting-range test with a mark of at least 95%.

I like this.

There are also mental health and drugs tests. Your criminal record is checked and police look for links to extremist groups. Then they check your relatives too - and even your work colleagues. And as well as having the power to deny gun licences, police also have sweeping powers to search and seize weapons.

^All of this.

The law restricts the number of gun shops. In most of Japan's 40 or so prefectures there can be no more than three, and you can only buy fresh cartridges by returning the spent cartridges you bought on your last visit.

^I would like see authorized gun retailers have to undergo much more strict supervision and accounting. It's not restricting rights, it's encouraging personal responsibility and compliance as a gun owner.

There are other things that greatly increase gun violence like proliferation of gang culture and social inequality. But taking common sense steps to bring our insane levels of gun violence more in line with the rest of the world and saving many lives is an admirable goal we should pursue and can pursue without infringing on "rights", those of which you haven't actually elaborated on. If it's just a vague notion of "liberty" that's not worth the price of thousands upon thousands of deaths annually. What about the rights of victims of gun violence?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416656)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Iridescent Diverse Institution Foreskin

it's common sense that all of these proposed laws infringe on people's rights in an unjustifiable way. lol at checking your relatives, too. oh, and work colleagues. that makes sense in america!

it's common sense that you should try again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416743)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

"it's common sense that all of these proposed laws infringe on people's rights in an unjustifiable way."

Yet gives no examples, evidence of this.

Are you saying the status quo is better? is reducing gun deaths from 33,000 to possible fewer than 100 admirable? Do you want to reduce gun deaths? What should we do in your opinion to achieve this? Or is that status quo where we have 33,000 gun deaths annually compared to Japan's 6 acceptable to you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416798)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

https://www.childtrends.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/70_fig3.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416132)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: Translucent windowlicker faggot firefighter

https://i.imgur.com/83O0ShW.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416182)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: vengeful native coffee pot

the adjustment for population size is completely wrong as a matter of math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416326)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: marvelous ceo

Odd how we had guns and mentally ill people and almost no mass shootings until libs saw it could further their agenda

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416133)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: vengeful native coffee pot

look, just stop. america has spoken. america wants guns and big stacks of dead people. that's what america wants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416308)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Peach drunken crackhouse

lol if you think other countries have the level of mental illness we have here, just look around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416392)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

You may be onto something actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416409)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Turquoise Odious Principal's Office Mood

You're not getting rid of guns in the US. Ever. Know why? Blacks and libs. Gun culture is mostly a white middle-aged dude thing and the true gun nuts see themselves as protecting their family and their property from libs and blacks. And the media perpetuates it. As long as people see blacks behaving violently, and there is no denying that they behave more violently than other races/cultures and as long as libs seem to bend over backwards to appease blacks, gun nuts will see it as their duty to horde guns.

When I was naive, I used to think gun people would agree to restrictions on guns because they were "sportsmen." I mean my family likes to hunt. Maybe you could add in some hand guns for home protection. But no.

Gun culture dudes are preparing for the downfall of society (thanks Libs) and every effort to restrict guns will be seen as a step towards the downfall of society and an effort to make them helpless to fight against the coming hordes.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416486)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Honey-headed aromatic property personal credit line

Yes but this paranoid ideation has no basis in reality. Unfortunately, even that being the case it's salient among gun owners. It's a particularly vexing problem in this country and in the mean time, people keep dying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416499)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Turquoise Odious Principal's Office Mood

The more you say it has no basis in reality -- and that "you" being lib media and lib politicians -- the more gun people see it as a step towards ushering them into a society they don't want and will not be able to resist without guns. It is like that Chinese finger trap-- the more you try to take away guns the more gun people say, "Them trying to take away guns is proof that I need my guns now more than ever."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416527)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: erotic indian lodge ratface

I don't like guns and don't really give a shit if we ban them but libs like you always come off as such insufferable queers that it makes it impossible to be on your side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416596)



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Date: February 16th, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: coral histrionic travel guidebook theater stage

i couldn’t give less of a fuck about guns. i say ban them all tomorrow if it leads to a net benefit for the country. all of the arguments people make for them seem tortured as fuck to me tbh

i just think that there are too many guns and bullets for incremental changes to the law to make any difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3894690&forum_id=2#35416814)