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Gibson Guitars facing imminent bankruptcy.

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/02/16/gibson-guitar-ba...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
CFO left after 9 months and they have 500M in debt coming du...
multi-colored green casino
  02/17/18
I hope you are right. Even with diminished guitar sales I ha...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
SGmo here. rate these 5000 dollar new les pauls https://r...
startling stain temple
  02/17/18
hideous. lol @ boomers.
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
they would get bought if it came to that. and a chapter 11 i...
multi-colored green casino
  02/17/18
Guitar center really fucking blows. They have like $1B of de...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
all music stores are shit. local shops are overpriced with ...
concupiscible brindle immigrant faggot firefighter
  02/17/18
i like sam ash. i feel like theyve got more quality instrum...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
i bought my LP at sam ash. the sales guy was a massive name...
Claret rambunctious garrison
  02/17/18
you can get insane deals at GC though, just because they are...
multi-colored green casino
  02/18/18
we've been saying this for years i thought
Avocado station
  02/17/18
Will their acoustic guitars drop in price
Passionate generalized bond gay wizard
  02/17/18
unsure. i really dont know very much about acoustic guitars....
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
What about companies going bankrupt? Do their goods usually ...
Passionate generalized bond gay wizard
  02/17/18
they should make guitars easier to play
low-t fuchsia school cafeteria
  02/17/18
cr. i think that would encourage younger millenials to take ...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
why? i beat every Guitar Hero. (millenial)
concupiscible brindle immigrant faggot firefighter
  02/17/18
...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
There was a South Park with exactly that plot.
rusted fat ankles locale
  02/17/18
why do that when you can just be like steve aoki, press a bu...
Crimson Karate
  02/17/18
(lib)
Milky Codepig
  02/17/18
How many new guitars does the world really need every year? ...
heady dun preventive strike native
  02/17/18
this is a really good point
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
piano business isn't doing great for this same reason.
sienna soul-stirring lay
  02/17/18
it's incredible how many free pianos are available on craigs...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
a lot of them seem to be in unplayable condition though and ...
sienna soul-stirring lay
  02/17/18
truth be told, at least for acoustic guitars, Gibson lost th...
Appetizing tripping stage jewess
  02/17/18
goddamn millennials and their dubstep
citrine community account
  02/17/18
haha, shoulda got into coins
Laughsome bat shit crazy death wish voyeur
  02/17/18
Why did a 100+ year old guitar company need $500 million of ...
Clear Alpha
  02/17/18
They really are the best. :(
Demanding market
  02/17/18
aside from pauls reed smith.
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
Will this increase the value of my vintage LPs?
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/17/18
plz describe said vintage LPs.
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
1969 goldtop that belonged to my late father 1974 cherry ...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/17/18
jfc 180. Has doodikoff seen this post yet?
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
I started playing when I was 8. Copped dat first electric wh...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/17/18
That 1969 LP must have a lot of sentimental value. thats coo...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
I’ll never sell it. He was a shit dad but when I play it, it...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/18/18
18000000 I want that deluxe bro
Demanding market
  02/17/18
the 69 goldtop could be worth $6-8k in good condition. the ...
Claret rambunctious garrison
  02/17/18
The goldtop is in really good condition. Has some wear from ...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/18/18
how does it sound
Claret rambunctious garrison
  02/18/18
Decent. Not as good as it used to. It need some work but I’...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/18/18
fender vs gibson go
balding rigpig
  02/17/18
Homos v heteros, basically. jk, I have a couple strats t...
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/17/18
fender basses, gibson guitars...though fender makes nice gui...
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  02/17/18
Nothing gibson has ever done will top the Tele + Twin combin...
multi-colored green casino
  02/17/18
(homo)
khaki dashing center
  02/18/18
...
startling stain temple
  02/18/18
sad
Lavender bateful space
  02/17/18
how many years and they still haven't fixed the tuning stabi...
useless hell gunner
  02/17/18
spin, ratfucks
hairraiser mexican university
  02/17/18
more like 35 years ago
Claret rambunctious garrison
  02/17/18
CR. They started that in the 1980s.
Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor
  02/17/18
mine has zero tuning stability problems. the robo tuners we...
Claret rambunctious garrison
  02/17/18
maybe, but the design of the head stock and string angle mak...
useless hell gunner
  02/18/18
Getting that company out of the hands of Henry J would be a ...
Sick Affirmative Action
  02/18/18
Damn. Great guitars. Sad.
fear-inspiring dopamine
  02/18/18
apparently they were even in trouble in the 80s and Slash is...
useless hell gunner
  03/18/18
they find themselves on the verge of BK every few years.
Claret rambunctious garrison
  03/18/18
What are the odds of me getting cheap 335 out of this
startling stain temple
  03/18/18
0%. The value of their guitars hasn't really been affected....
Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address
  03/18/18
zero
Demanding market
  03/20/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

https://www.digitalmusicnews.com/2018/02/16/gibson-guitar-bankruptcy/

We’ve been hearing about declines in guitar sales for years. Now, one of the most storied guitar makers in history — Gibson — may be in serious trouble.

Gibson Guitar is now falling on hard times, and softer guitar sales are just part of the picture. According to details surfacing this week, the company remains deluged in debt, with desperate sell-offs to service a growing list of creditors.

Ringing the scary alarm is Nashville Post reporter Geert De Lombaerde, who unearthed mountainous debt obligations and a worsening financial crisis. De Lombaerde pointed to a recent, $16.6 million coupon payment by Gibson to service $375 million in senior secured notes that come due this year.

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The debt pile wasn’t a secret to frustrated bond holders. But De Lombaerde is seeing an iceberg ahead. “The situation facing the iconic Nashville-based music instrument maker, which has annual revenues of more than $1 billion, is far from normal,” De Lombaerde remarked. “CFO Bill Lawrence recently left the company after less than a year on the job and just six months before $375 million of senior secured notes will mature.”

“On top of that, another $145 million in bank loans will come due immediately if those notes, issued in 2013, are not refinanced by July 23rd.”

Gibson Guitar factory in Kalamazoo, MI, 1936 (Kalamazoo Public Library)

Gibson Guitar factory in Kalamazoo, MI, 1936 (Kalamazoo Public Library)

Gibson Guitar started in 1902, and has been interwoven into the musical life of America ever since.

Back in 1952, the company produced its first signature Les Paul, one of the most famous guitar series of all time. The rest, as they say, is history. But that storied history is making the present situation harder to stomach.

Just recently, Gibson sold its ownership of a former Baldwin Piano warehouse for $6.4 million. Now, the guitar maker is trying to offload an even bigger Nashville property: the Valley Arts building, located on Church Street. The selloff is expected to draw $11 million. Both payments are likely to evaporate almost instantly to service a growing debt tranche.

We’ve read a separate report that Gibson is selling off Baldwin entirely — though that hasn’t been confirmed.

Gibson still pulls annual revenues north of $1 billion. But multiple investors, bondholders, and analysts are now saying the ‘b-word’ out loud.

“This year is critical and they are running out of time — rapidly,” Kevin Cassidy, a senior credit officer at Moody’s Investors Service, told the Post. “And if this ends in bankruptcy, [CEO/owner Henry Juszkiewicz] will give up the entire company.”

Moody’s has already downgraded Gibson. And others are projecting a major change ahead — in leadership, or total control of the company.

One question is whether sagging guitar sales are playing a role here. This has been a growing problem for years, thanks to surging interest in EDM and rap. But broader cultural shifts are also putting the guitar in the rearview. Indeed, the recurring ‘rock & roll is dead’ cliché may finally be coming true — and seriously impacting Gibson’s bottom line.

Incidentally, Moody’s also downgraded Guitar Center last year, as well. The mega-retailer, a massive seller of guitars, is saddled with more than $1.6 billion in debt.

The issue of plunging guitar sales became glaringly apparent last year.

That’s when sales figures revealed a serious sales drop over the past decade. Specifically, guitar sales have dropped from approximately 1.5 million units annually to roughly 1 million — all in less than a decade. That’s still a million a year, though this is all heading in the wrong direction.

And buried beneath those top-line statistics is another problem: sinking prices. All of which is great for anyone on the market for a guitar — new or used. But it’s disastrous for a company like Gibson.

One obvious problem is that the guitar is just another toy for younger people today. Up until relatively recently, it was a must-have for a giant percentage of young Americans — all of whom were in love with rock & roll in some form or another. Now, the six-string is just as easily replaced by a turntable, videogame console, or simply a laptop.

And the ‘guitar gods’ of the past are fading, with their adherents downsizing. “I don’t know. Maybe the guitar is over,” Eric Clapton said last year when asked about eroding guitar sales.

“Good question though.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425293)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: multi-colored green casino

CFO left after 9 months and they have 500M in debt coming due.

I think the gibson line is still viable but they own some other underperforming brands like philips that are weighing them down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425320)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

I hope you are right. Even with diminished guitar sales I have to assume it is going to be a long time before the demand for gibson guitars goes away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425366)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: startling stain temple

SGmo here. rate these 5000 dollar new les pauls

https://reverb.com/news/gibson-nods-to-shaggin-wagons-with-new-custom-boogie-van-les-pauls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425372)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:05 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

hideous. lol @ boomers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425632)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: multi-colored green casino

they would get bought if it came to that. and a chapter 11 is hardly a death sentence

guitar center on the other hand...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425377)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

Guitar center really fucking blows. They have like $1B of debt maturing in a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425705)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: concupiscible brindle immigrant faggot firefighter

all music stores are shit. local shops are overpriced with limited selection. megastores are full of dipshits and look like walmart the day after thanksgiving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425756)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

i like sam ash. i feel like theyve got more quality instruments than guitar center and the employees are less faggoty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425766)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

i bought my LP at sam ash. the sales guy was a massive namedropping faggot who kept interrupting me while i was trying to play it, but the guitar was better quality than any of the other LPs i tested out at GC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427926)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: multi-colored green casino

you can get insane deals at GC though, just because they are so desperate for sales. And they get some good Fender and Gibson stuff coming through their Premier Rooms. I've always gotten a pretty shitty attitude from sales reps at Sam Ash, although they do seem to carry some high end stuff that GC wont, like Suhrs and Andersons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431571)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 2:26 PM
Author: Avocado station

we've been saying this for years i thought

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425369)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Passionate generalized bond gay wizard

Will their acoustic guitars drop in price

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425707)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

unsure. i really dont know very much about acoustic guitars. are gibson acoustics good?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425737)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Passionate generalized bond gay wizard

What about companies going bankrupt? Do their goods usually get massive discounts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425775)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: low-t fuchsia school cafeteria

they should make guitars easier to play

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425745)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

cr. i think that would encourage younger millenials to take up the guitar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425749)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: concupiscible brindle immigrant faggot firefighter

why? i beat every Guitar Hero. (millenial)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425761)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425772)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: rusted fat ankles locale

There was a South Park with exactly that plot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427850)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Crimson Karate

why do that when you can just be like steve aoki, press a button and prance around like a faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425773)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Milky Codepig

(lib)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425969)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: heady dun preventive strike native

How many new guitars does the world really need every year? They aren't like cars. They can play well and hold value for 40 years. Tons of old guitars on the market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425762)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:27 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

this is a really good point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425769)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: sienna soul-stirring lay

piano business isn't doing great for this same reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426016)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

it's incredible how many free pianos are available on craigslist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426021)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:15 PM
Author: sienna soul-stirring lay

a lot of them seem to be in unplayable condition though and might cost more to repair than to buy a new one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426045)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: Appetizing tripping stage jewess

truth be told, at least for acoustic guitars, Gibson lost that magic feeling years ago; overproduction and loss of quality control all along the line, and of course, stiff competition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425799)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: citrine community account

goddamn millennials and their dubstep

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425836)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Laughsome bat shit crazy death wish voyeur

haha, shoulda got into coins

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425849)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Clear Alpha

Why did a 100+ year old guitar company need $500 million of debt? Some boomer CEO's grand expansion plan?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425871)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Demanding market

They really are the best. :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425943)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

aside from pauls reed smith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426030)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

Will this increase the value of my vintage LPs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35425951)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

plz describe said vintage LPs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426004)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

1969 goldtop that belonged to my late father

1974 cherry sunburst LP deluxe

1990 studio lite (LMAO is this now considered vintage? It was my first electric when I was 12)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426100)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

jfc 180. Has doodikoff seen this post yet?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426405)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

I started playing when I was 8. Copped dat first electric when I was 12. Dad played in local cock rock bands in the 1980s. I originally dropped out of high school to do the same. Went back. Now I’m a lawyer. JFC, I’m so ashamed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427803)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:41 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

That 1969 LP must have a lot of sentimental value. thats cool to have had that in common with your father.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35428090)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:33 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

I’ll never sell it. He was a shit dad but when I play it, it feels like he wasn’t.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431108)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: Demanding market

18000000

I want that deluxe bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426526)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

the 69 goldtop could be worth $6-8k in good condition. the 74 is probably more along the lines of $2500. 1990 studio lite is worth maybe $800.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427949)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

The goldtop is in really good condition. Has some wear from arm and hand oil but doesn’t matter, I’d sell a kidney befor I’d sell that guitar

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431117)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

how does it sound

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431561)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

Decent. Not as good as it used to. It need some work but I’m weird about that guitar because of the sentimental value. The deluxe if fucking sweet though. Great tone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35432875)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: balding rigpig

fender vs gibson

go

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426085)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

Homos v heteros, basically.

jk, I have a couple strats too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426169)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

fender basses, gibson guitars...though fender makes nice guitars too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426413)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: multi-colored green casino

Nothing gibson has ever done will top the Tele + Twin combination

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35426521)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 1:43 PM
Author: khaki dashing center

(homo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431157)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: startling stain temple



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35431565)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Lavender bateful space

sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427858)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: useless hell gunner

how many years and they still haven't fixed the tuning stability problem those guitars have? they spent a ridiculous amount on those awful looking robo tuners

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427888)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: hairraiser mexican university

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427936)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:16 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

more like 35 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427959)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: Topaz costumed shrine fortuitous meteor

CR. They started that in the 1980s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35428115)



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Date: February 17th, 2018 9:15 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

mine has zero tuning stability problems. the robo tuners were a one year mistake on the LPs.

locking grovers are 180 as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35427956)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:05 AM
Author: useless hell gunner

maybe, but the design of the head stock and string angle makes it inherently unstable for tuning. it's common knowledge. plus, LOL at the weak neck joints. even ESP addressed this in their LP-style designs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35429774)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 8:13 AM
Author: Sick Affirmative Action

Getting that company out of the hands of Henry J would be a godsend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35429780)



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: fear-inspiring dopamine

Damn. Great guitars. Sad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35432877)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: useless hell gunner

apparently they were even in trouble in the 80s and Slash is credited with saving them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35632220)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Claret rambunctious garrison

they find themselves on the verge of BK every few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35632230)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: startling stain temple

What are the odds of me getting cheap 335 out of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35632235)



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Date: March 18th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Domesticated Soggy Volcanic Crater Address

0%. The value of their guitars hasn't really been affected. Sounds like the business has just been run horribly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35634182)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 12:10 PM
Author: Demanding market

zero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895956&forum_id=2#35644984)