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poetry seems like a lost art

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citrine garrison
  02/17/18
i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. ...
Carnelian university personal credit line
  02/17/18
especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.
citrine garrison
  02/17/18
yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. ...
Carnelian university personal credit line
  02/17/18
I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as f...
citrine garrison
  02/17/18
exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t...
Smoky range generalized bond
  02/17/18
there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a &...
Carnelian university personal credit line
  02/17/18
The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the so...
Hairraiser coiffed elastic band brunch
  02/17/18
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Aromatic state jap
  09/21/18
Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"
adulterous ruddy jew cuckold
  02/17/18
rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry
citrine garrison
  02/17/18
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jade fat ankles
  02/17/18
real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart peopl...
Walnut candlestick maker idea he suggested
  02/17/18
120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd
citrine garrison
  02/17/18
actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't...
Carnelian university personal credit line
  02/17/18
Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers a...
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  02/17/18
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Hairraiser coiffed elastic band brunch
  02/18/18
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Walnut candlestick maker idea he suggested
  02/17/18
art is a lost art
cobalt bespoke church building mediation
  02/17/18
nigger: a poem
big chartreuse site
  02/18/18
eloquent
citrine garrison
  02/18/18
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Aromatic state jap
  09/21/18
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man -- ...
aquamarine station knife
  09/21/18


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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: citrine garrison



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:56 PM
Author: Carnelian university personal credit line

i don't think it's even taught anymore in the formal sense. people don't actually realize that "poems" are not just fractured paragraphs. many "poems" are just poorly-formatted chunks of text and don't actually represent anything poetic.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: citrine garrison

especially "slam poetry". jesus christ.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:03 PM
Author: Carnelian university personal credit line

yeah; it just lacks structure and therefore lacks meaning. "poetry" used to be taught like a formal discipline, with textbooks. you'd have to learn about meter and rhyme-schemes and about literature in general, and about the elements of greco-roman mythology that crop up repeatedly in western poetry, and so on. in other words, formal stuff that you had to memorize and recite on tests. not just "write what you feel." it was considered laughable that someone would actually attempt to WRITE poems without a working understanding of what they actually were.



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: citrine garrison

I think it's because "free verse" isn't quite as free as a lot of people think it is. There's still certain stylistic and metrical elements to it that have to be observed. It's not just prose with random line breaks/pauses

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Smoky range generalized bond

exactly. free verse is fine if its written by someone like t.s. eliot who knows what they are doing. awful if it is written by some shitlib who just litters random phrases and punctuation across a page

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: Carnelian university personal credit line

there was a famous textbook example about the meaning of a "poem" involving a bit of text from a late-1800's geometry guide. someone discovered that one of the book's sentences could be formatted so that it followed the same rhyme-scheme as "in memorium" by tennyson:

"And hence no force, however great,

Can draw a cord, however fine,

Into a horizontal line

Which shall be absolutely straight."

that's the same meter as:

"I hold it true, whate'er befall;

I feel it when I sorrow most;

'Tis better to have loved and lost

Than never to have loved at all."

but yet, the geometry text is not really a "poem." it could plausibly be part of a larger poem, but by itself, it's not very meaningful, because it lacks a grander narrative.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Hairraiser coiffed elastic band brunch

The geometry sentence has its own intended elegance...the sounds and succinctness appealed to the author without altogether knowing why.

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Aromatic state jap



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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: adulterous ruddy jew cuckold

Poetry is thriving after rebranding to "rap music"

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Date: February 17th, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: citrine garrison

rap is fine but not as a replacement for poetry

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: jade fat ankles



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Walnut candlestick maker idea he suggested

real poetry is exceedingly difficult and all the smart people died out a long time ago.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: citrine garrison

120 IQ avg Greeks churning out poems like nbd

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Carnelian university personal credit line

actual poets usually treated poetry like a job. they didn't just scribble something down and run with it. even a very skilled, intelligent guy like keats would supposedly revise a single line 50+ times to get it right before offering stuff for publication.

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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: House-broken opaque abode affirmative action

Shrews now think if they haves a masters, they are writers and poets

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: cobalt bespoke church building mediation



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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Hairraiser coiffed elastic band brunch



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Date: February 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: Walnut candlestick maker idea he suggested



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Date: February 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: cobalt bespoke church building mediation

art is a lost art

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: big chartreuse site
Subject: nigger: a poem

nigger.

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Date: February 18th, 2018 6:17 PM
Author: citrine garrison

eloquent

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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Aromatic state jap



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Date: September 21st, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: aquamarine station knife

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man --

There are only four things certain since Social Progress began --

That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,

And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire --

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins

When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins

As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn

The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3896145&forum_id=2#36859494)