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Christianity is the most powerful antidepressant know to man

Lol at these low iq depressed atheists who reject the LORD a...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
But not real is not real, lil bro.
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
Name your favorite theologians, Christianity MFE
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
Name your favorite theologians, Christianity MFE
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
To me its just made up stuff. You can be scholarly as fuck ...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
So you're a positivist? You hold no non-empirical beliefs? H...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
I'm not an ist anything, friend. I just have evidentiary sta...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
Right, so you're unable to articulate your own metaphysical ...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
I'm not actively refuting, T least at present. Before tht ha...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
lol "CHRISTIANITY ISN'T REAL" "nah nah I'm...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
Baseline assumption is ill believe it if you offer more like...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
*hands you a collections basket*
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
So listen to halfway decent stuff every week until you get t...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
just do symbolism bro
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
Somehow nicene creed seems to block this.
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
are you suggesting it could never be the case that cognitive...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
I am not and may very well agree w much of this. That said,...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kDPYbq0OsL4/VwxKviGpEHI/AAAAAAAAB...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
Lol, this kind of thinking is exactly why I can't embrace re...
Thirsty Concupiscible Gas Station Main People
  02/20/18
this structure of reasoning is analogous to the widely accep...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
spin, ratfucks
impressive mexican coldplay fan
  02/19/18
...
crimson ratface
  02/19/18
...
confused elastic band
  02/19/18
I dig Christianity but don't believe the way I think I'm sup...
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
Gas yourself lib
confused elastic band
  02/19/18
...
crimson ratface
  02/19/18
spin, ratfucks
impressive mexican coldplay fan
  02/19/18
what's your problem?
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
...
Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria
  02/20/18
That's Hegel/Absolute idealism, except for Hegel God doesn't...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
thanks. I don't know much about philosophy. A lot of these...
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
You’d love Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. A Jesuit priest who b...
exciting business firm
  02/20/18
Yeah, he" s ultimately a muddle though.
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
Yeah but who isn’t
exciting business firm
  02/20/18
Conclusions from this?
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
The meaning or origin of existence is unknowable. But that d...
exciting business firm
  02/20/18
Sure. So?
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
So, what? What do you want from me?
exciting business firm
  02/20/18
(Karl Marx)
ebony supple personal credit line
  02/19/18
The problem happens when you study the and contemplate the l...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
Explain
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
Jesus couldn't have been God. He was a man who had limited k...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
This is "Why doesn't God just kill the Devil", the...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
I was driving through the Carolinas and saw a billboard on t...
walnut goyim potus
  02/19/18
Yeah, no. Even as a Jew the trinity makes sense. God made hi...
Cerise Athletic Conference
  02/19/18
No, according to Maimonides God is not limited.
walnut goyim potus
  02/19/18
How do you wrestle with the unlimited God? How is the unlimi...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
If I recall correctly, through apparition only.
walnut goyim potus
  02/19/18
How do you wrestle with the unlimited God? You don't. H...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
re wresting 22 That night Jacob got up and took his two w...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
God is above his creation. His creation is not him. Unless y...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
What? A Jew would never even entertain the notion of the tri...
ebony supple personal credit line
  02/19/18
xo 2018
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
What does it have to be so complicated? Plenty of Christians...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
he's not the factual son because if you had jesus' DNA you w...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
I appreciate Christians, especially those who understand tha...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
Dark night of the soul
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
As a mercy for those who believe
Racy doobsian lettuce jap
  02/19/18
Maybe Christian religion, like fairytales or fables or Greek...
ebony supple personal credit line
  02/19/18
The point is not that the God sacrifices His Son, the point ...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
/thread
up-to-no-good lay volcanic crater
  02/19/18
Thank you, I was hoping it made sense for the poasters, it i...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
trinity tracks id-ego-superego pretty nicely
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
...
confused elastic band
  02/19/18
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ivory degenerate
  02/19/18
Never met a single Christian I wouldn't happily nail to a cr...
Cerise Athletic Conference
  02/19/18
(this is your average Jew)
walnut goyim potus
  02/19/18
...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
...
confused elastic band
  02/19/18
jews consider hate a virtue
Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria
  02/20/18
(kike)
hilarious nighttime feces home
  02/19/18
You'll have to be Roman, not Russian, an entirely different ...
Floppy fat ankles
  02/19/18
The Romans did not invent crucifixion and the Russians inven...
Cerise Athletic Conference
  02/20/18
russians were 175 but the japs in ww2 were truly sick
galvanic bawdyhouse legend
  02/20/18
Through him all things were made; without him nothing was ma...
Zombie-like Market
  02/19/18
Yo, there's this sky wizard that once murdered everybody (ex...
titillating range rigor
  02/19/18
Lol ur either joking or severely misinformed
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
Man has potential to regress into mass rebellion. That's fre...
insecure nowag
  02/19/18
...
Splenetic Garrison
  02/19/18
...
sickened mediation corner
  02/19/18
If a computer's source code wasn't outputting the right answ...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/19/18
only in Calvinism Armininans/Catholics have no way of kno...
galvanic bawdyhouse legend
  02/19/18
"He's the only free psychiatrist who's known throughout...
cream location
  02/19/18
(NOT Kierkegaard)
Multi-colored useless brakes
  02/20/18
not even god can help you after rejecting prime cunnus broth...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
(Anti-Climacus)
Drab 180 locale
  02/20/18
i just pulled out sickness unto death and started reading th...
Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
  02/20/18
I wish he wouldn't write like that
Drab 180 locale
  02/20/18
christianity is actually just for low iq shitcons
unholy bull headed factory reset button tank
  02/20/18
(((''"'"""''')))
Sinister Adventurous Incel Hell
  02/20/18
And people who deeply understand death and resist in irratio...
Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad
  02/20/18
is there even a "rational way" brother
crystalline halford
  02/20/18
xo Dr. E. Michael Jones
Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria
  02/20/18


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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Lol at these low iq depressed atheists who reject the LORD as "fiction" then artificially increase the happy chemicals in their brain to cope with a godless reality.

Oh what intellectual rigor! Oh what Truth they've found!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35440993)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 6:46 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

But not real is not real, lil bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447619)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Name your favorite theologians, Christianity MFE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447630)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Name your favorite theologians, Christianity MFE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447631)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:01 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

To me its just made up stuff. You can be scholarly as fuck but its still made up. Like some good ideas w more than a sprinkle of dog excrement. Which sort of moots the effort.

But I read Aquinas and Augustinian and some Jewish bros and some modern bros.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447711)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

So you're a positivist? You hold no non-empirical beliefs? How's that working?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447723)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

I'm not an ist anything, friend. I just have evidentiary standards.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447731)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Right, so you're unable to articulate your own metaphysical assumptions (hint: you likely have quite a few), but are somehow capable of understanding someone else's (second hint: you dont) and refuting them. odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447739)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:07 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

I'm not actively refuting, T least at present. Before tht happens I would need to have some prima facia case made. Christers I love em but they can't.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447756)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

lol "CHRISTIANITY ISN'T REAL"

"nah nah I'm not refuting anything"

you're a lawyer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447765)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

Baseline assumption is ill believe it if you offer more likely than not evidence. Christers cant, and that's why they call on "faith".

Show me I'm wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447786)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

*hands you a collections basket*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447793)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

So listen to halfway decent stuff every week until you get tired of resisting friendly overtures and give in to the bullshit component just to get along? Nah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447818)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

just do symbolism bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447826)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:24 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

Somehow nicene creed seems to block this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447855)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:31 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

are you suggesting it could never be the case that cognitively underdeveloped ancient bros were channeling subconscious answers to existential questions that when articulated and due to low-iq came out literal but that in hindsight with the help of science we can now see to have been misinterpreted metaphysical symbolism and ought to be understood properly as as a critical cognitive phenomenon in the history of mankind that will never be repeated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447910)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

I am not and may very well agree w much of this. That said, that is not what the church requires.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447942)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:40 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kDPYbq0OsL4/VwxKviGpEHI/AAAAAAAABAc/YljF0dfex5sP-zyWk7omB84ehgjuUMZ6ACLcB/s1600/ian-mcewan-black-dogs-5-728.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447960)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: Thirsty Concupiscible Gas Station Main People

Lol, this kind of thinking is exactly why I can't embrace religion. How can you believe in something simply because it makes you feel good? Would you apply that sort of reasoning to anything else in life?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447919)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

this structure of reasoning is analogous to the widely accepted no miracles line of argumentation in the philosophy of science

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447929)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447948)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: impressive mexican coldplay fan

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441002)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: crimson ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441009)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:39 PM
Author: confused elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441020)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison

I dig Christianity but don't believe the way I think I'm supposed to. I believe God is the thing that we are becoming (i.e., apes to humans, humans to supermen, supermen to [???]). Question is whether our descendant will be enough to transcend heat death when the time comes, or if he'll just get reset-button-pwned a la the Last Question. If our descendant doesn't transcend, then he's not God.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441088)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: confused elastic band

Gas yourself lib

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441111)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: crimson ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441123)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:51 PM
Author: impressive mexican coldplay fan

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441150)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison

what's your problem?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441195)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447966)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:50 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

That's Hegel/Absolute idealism, except for Hegel God doesn't need to be realized in your sense to exist (ie God is not conditioned on the outcome). God is the power that is getting to know itself through becoming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441129)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison

thanks. I don't know much about philosophy. A lot of these ideas come from science fiction, but they resonate. good to attach them to philosophers.

but I am curious about what happens at and after heat death.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441187)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: exciting business firm

You’d love Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. A Jesuit priest who believed that humans are evolving into a sort of omnipotent being. Check out the Phenomonon of Man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447778)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

Yeah, he" s ultimately a muddle though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447791)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: exciting business firm

Yeah but who isn’t

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447850)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

Conclusions from this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447866)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: exciting business firm

The meaning or origin of existence is unknowable. But that doesn’t necessarily mean that there is no meaning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447883)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

Sure. So?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447955)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:42 PM
Author: exciting business firm

So, what? What do you want from me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447973)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: ebony supple personal credit line

(Karl Marx)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441117)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: insecure nowag

The problem happens when you study the and contemplate the logic behind the trinity, and how it makes no sense at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441118)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441171)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: insecure nowag

Jesus couldn't have been God. He was a man who had limited knowledge and understanding. God is all knowing and all powerful. In the Bible, verses have him saying "Father, why have you forsaken me?" Makes no sense to say this if you're God in the flesh.

The idea of him even being THE son of God in the literal sense is innuendo and speculation, which again, is shot down by his constant referral to God as the almighty, and he, himself, just a man.

And regardless of whether he was God, the son of God, or even just a holy messenger of God, to say that we just need to believe in him as a sacrificial scapegoat and that's it, and that makes God favor you over everyone else on the planet doesn't make sense. There's no accountability besides faith, which doesn't require any sincere action and striving.

The Christian message seems to be to just throw up your hands and say, whelp, we're all sinners, but I accept Jesus as a sacrifice for my sins, so I win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441304)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:08 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

This is "Why doesn't God just kill the Devil", the question Friday asked Robinson Crusoe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441350)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: walnut goyim potus

I was driving through the Carolinas and saw a billboard on the I95 that said "Are you going to Heaven or Hell? Call 855 ... ...." so I called that number.

The guy I talked to explained that salvation through faith is a modern lib take on the Bible and that real Christianity mandates you be free from sin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441363)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: Cerise Athletic Conference

Yeah, no. Even as a Jew the trinity makes sense. God made himself mortal complete with all mortal limitations including limited knowledge. Where Christianity fails is the whole unfulfilled prophecy thing. 2018 years is a bit too long a time to wait for the second coming methinks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441380)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: walnut goyim potus

No, according to Maimonides God is not limited.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441395)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

How do you wrestle with the unlimited God? How is the unlimited God surprised by some apple eating? In general, how does the unlimited God interact with anything that is not part of him?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441454)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: walnut goyim potus

If I recall correctly, through apparition only.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441465)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: insecure nowag

How do you wrestle with the unlimited God?

You don't.

How is the unlimited God surprised by some apple eating?

He's not. He knew what was going to happen when Adam was given free will. But, Adam is the opposite of Satan in nature because he was humble to admit fault.

In general, how does the unlimited God interact with anything that is not part of him?

He can cause the physical world to do anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441485)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

re wresting

22 That night Jacob got up and took his two wives, his two female servants and his eleven sons and crossed the ford of the Jabbok. 23 After he had sent them across the stream, he sent over all his possessions. 24 So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak. 25 When the man saw that he could not overpower him, he touched the socket of Jacob’s hip so that his hip was wrenched as he wrestled with the man. 26 Then the man said, “Let me go, for it is daybreak.”

But Jacob replied, “I will not let you go unless you bless me.”

27 The man asked him, “What is your name?”

“Jacob,” he answered.

28 Then the man said, “Your name will no longer be Jacob, but Israel,[a] because you have struggled with God and with humans and have overcome.”

29 Jacob said, “Please tell me your name.”

But he replied, “Why do you ask my name?” Then he blessed him there.

30 So Jacob called the place Peniel,[b] saying, “It is because I saw God face to face, and yet my life was spared.”

31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,[c] and he was limping because of his hip. 32 Therefore to this day the Israelites do not eat the tendon attached to the socket of the hip, because the socket of Jacob’s hip was touched near the tendon.

I don't think I know enough to discuss this on the level this discussion deserves, so I am bailing out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441568)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: insecure nowag

God is above his creation. His creation is not him. Unless you want to abrogate the Old Testament:

Isaiah 55:8-9: For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, declares the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441426)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: ebony supple personal credit line

What? A Jew would never even entertain the notion of the trinity. The most important Jewish prayer is a prayer that affirms the absolute unity and oneness of God.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441653)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:12 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business
Subject: xo 2018

Jesus is not a symbol of God the father, Jesus is Jesus as the Christ. Christ is the symbol for the tension between essence (God) and existence (finitude, possessing "limited knowledge and understanding").

He was not the *factual* son of God any more than he *literally* sits at God's right hand (for of course, God does not have hands).

We are compelled to believe in the symbol of Jesus as the Christ as a means of balancing the essence/existence tension. Over time and through observation (and not through faith alone), the balance struck by accepting the symbol of Jesus as the Christ reveals itself as the proper balance.

The action/striving comes in when you're challenged to balance the tension when the world tries to shake it loose.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441405)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: insecure nowag

What does it have to be so complicated? Plenty of Christians say he's the factual son. And why is it so black and white: accept the supposed gift of Jesus' bloodshed or else hellfire?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441453)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

he's not the factual son because if you had jesus' DNA you wouldn't find half of God's chromosomes. sons are not something God can have or do.

and i don't think its black and white. its an extremely efficient system of symbols for coping with unanswerable existential questions. eschew at your own risk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441484)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: insecure nowag

I appreciate Christians, especially those who understand that salvation is a matter of not just abstractly loving God, but by respecting him by avoiding clear standards relating to sin and virtue (I happen to enjoy the Vigilant Christian's youtube channel, since he represents this sort of Christianity). Having trust in God, and remembrance of God, regardless of how life is going. I find Islam to be more simple, and I know, there are all kinds of arguments against it that I've refuted (mostly stemming from hadith quotes, which are MANMADE, and prone to fabrication and corruption), but it makes more sense to me to believe in one God above his creation, and that he is the most merciful, who has made us as his vicegerents, and will judge us according to our effort and intention. No challenge to Islam that I've encounter has ever left me stumped after further research.

I will also add, I experienced what can be only described as a jinn (demonic or metaphysical) attack, and only after being diligent in retreating into sincere and regular prayer, and regular Quran reading (which I did so critically, as we are required to do so), did I feel the attack ease up. I know Christians have reported something similar. I can't claim to understand God, nobody can, but Islam literally saved my sanity.

I am also satisfied that Jesus never intended to be thought of as God, but that the Quran seems to imply (chapter 5, verse 116 to 120) that Christians who are sincere and truthful, but misinformed may be forgiven (though that's just my understanding, I'm no religious scholar). Whereas, Christians assume I'm set for eternal damnation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441662)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison

Dark night of the soul

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441910)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: Racy doobsian lettuce jap

As a mercy for those who believe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441950)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: ebony supple personal credit line

Maybe Christian religion, like fairytales or fables or Greek mythology, is metaphorical and it is more about the meaning or morals or teaching embedded into the stories. Derrrr.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441649)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

The point is not that the God sacrifices His Son, the point is that the God sacrifices Himself.

Imagine you are the Almighty and you want to be killed. So now there is Christ, killable, with the limitations required, but it's still you. As a God, you can do anything you want.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441677)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: up-to-no-good lay volcanic crater

/thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441943)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

Thank you, I was hoping it made sense for the poasters, it is how it makes sense to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35442039)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison

trinity tracks id-ego-superego pretty nicely

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441219)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: confused elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441319)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:04 PM
Author: ivory degenerate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441312)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: Cerise Athletic Conference

Never met a single Christian I wouldn't happily nail to a cross.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441330)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:10 PM
Author: walnut goyim potus

(this is your average Jew)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441381)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441409)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: confused elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441834)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:55 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria

jews consider hate a virtue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35448052)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:13 PM
Author: hilarious nighttime feces home

(kike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441419)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Floppy fat ankles

You'll have to be Roman, not Russian, an entirely different fantasy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441629)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:00 PM
Author: Cerise Athletic Conference

The Romans did not invent crucifixion and the Russians invented way more 180 ways to kill a bro. I'd much rather make you swallow your entire shirt and then when you start digesting it pull it out through your throat along with your guts. That' was a Russian invention.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35448073)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: galvanic bawdyhouse legend

russians were 175 but the japs in ww2 were truly sick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35448184)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: Zombie-like Market

Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441448)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: titillating range rigor

Yo, there's this sky wizard that once murdered everybody (except 8 people) in a flood and reserves the right to murder us all again if he feels like it, except he promises to use some method other than a flood. Anyway, if you don't worship him the right way, he'll torture you for eternity. But if you do worship him the right way, he won't.

I hope you're less depressed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441658)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

Lol ur either joking or severely misinformed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441687)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: insecure nowag

Man has potential to regress into mass rebellion. That's free will. We have a choice, to follow God or fall for Satan and the whisperings of him and his allies. There have been times in history where the sincere winnowed down to such a low number that all that was left of a society was the rebellious (leading to Noah's flood, or the time of Sodom and Gomorra), and the rebellious were given chance after chance. Also, hell might not be eternal in the literal sense, but more of a place of purification. And if we haven't gotten right during our life here, then we'll be taught when we are brought back to our creator, but it won't be pleasant if we bought into the lies and sinful attractions.

You should be concerned about yourself and what you're doing. We have our entire lives to seek out our creator. Life can't be some meaningless exercise. We are all created with unique abilities, unique attributes, and our creator, out of mercy, hand crafted us and we have the chance to be our best and represent him the best we can. And it's not about the result, it's about the effort and sincerity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441787)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: Splenetic Garrison



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441888)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: sickened mediation corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441945)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

If a computer's source code wasn't outputting the right answers, and there was some symbolic input you could provide that would help the computer perform the proper calculation, you wouldn't accuse that input of being "fictional", would you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441667)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: galvanic bawdyhouse legend

only in Calvinism

Armininans/Catholics have no way of knowing they're saved

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441972)



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Date: February 19th, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: cream location

"He's the only free psychiatrist who's known throughout the world." -Stevie Wonder

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35441982)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: Multi-colored useless brakes

(NOT Kierkegaard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447338)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

not even god can help you after rejecting prime cunnus brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447370)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:06 PM
Author: Drab 180 locale

(Anti-Climacus)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447750)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: Diverse Rusted Theater Stage Place Of Business

i just pulled out sickness unto death and started reading the bit about the self being a relation that relates to itself and involuntarily vomited from confusion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447834)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: Drab 180 locale

I wish he wouldn't write like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447872)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: unholy bull headed factory reset button tank

christianity is actually just for low iq shitcons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447774)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: Sinister Adventurous Incel Hell

(((''"'"""''')))

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447821)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:29 PM
Author: Mildly Autistic Famous Landscape Painting Chad

And people who deeply understand death and resist in irrational ways in light of the trauma.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35447892)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: crystalline halford

is there even a "rational way" brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35449334)



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Date: February 20th, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Sienna School Cafeteria

xo Dr. E. Michael Jones

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897985&forum_id=2#35448022)