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Libs: Merit based migration is racist, we need to flood the US w/ poor ethnics
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook This is literally their immigration argument (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452506) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic On another note, I have to pat myself on the back for taking on all of you single handedly and making this another 100+ post thread. You’re welcome! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453087) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook You run great flame, I have to hand it to you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453090) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453106) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453129) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453137) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453146) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Contagious Dark House The girl is crafty like ice is cold The girl is crafty - she knows all the moves I started playing records - she knew all the grooves |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:29 PM Author: useless brindle base *Julia flames/lies* *people get mad and respond*
I guess she did win here |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:00 AM Author: Dead soul-stirring potus corn cake (Julia patting herself on the back for singlehandedly taking on a large group of guys odd case) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35458094) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 2:06 AM Author: Bistre federal stead jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35496718) |
Date: February 21st, 2018 12:49 PM Author: hateful state Um hello? That’s because it says so right there in the Statue of Liberty Poem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452512) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:54 PM Author: beady-eyed faggot firefighter sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452535) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453147) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:53 PM Author: Sick Stag Film Boltzmann how else is abuelita gonna get in? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452530) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:55 PM Author: Garnet temple i dont think this has been discussed here before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452539) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook Just think this should be highlighted more so we understand what we are dealing with (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452543) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic You’re a racist, though, so we have no way of knowing whether you actually understand the concept of racism, nor whether you can separate your racist emotions from logic well enough to even credibly make such an argument.
Second, and most importantly, proles immigrating from poor countries is what America has always been about. Now the descendants of poor proles like yourself want to get uppity and think you’re better than the newly-arriving proles. Of course you’re not; your bloodline is from potato or bratwurst proles, but is prole nonetheless. Nearly every successful person in America is essentially nouveau riche trash |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Vermilion locale this is the dumbest piece of the libs new stance. Since racism could justify a position all of its other justifications must be ignored. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452581) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:02 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Occam’s razor: When a racist makes a racist statement, it’s because of racism, not because of some half-hearted logic. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452606) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Vermilion locale evaluate the *statement* not the people that are making the statement, dear lord (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452613) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic I did; my reaponse was in two parts. First, our system of immigration has always been and still is to our benefit. It is, in fact, the core of the American way and essential to our culture.
I also evaluated the statement in the context of the speaker, who is an avowed and clear racist, and who, in context, is presenting illogical positions based partly or wholly on his racism. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Vermilion locale you edited so it is more clear now. Disengaging. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452678) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:18 PM Author: violent spot thoughts on this story? https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/at-major-northwest-side-bakery-labor-issues-pit-blacks-vs-hispanics/amp/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452749) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452887) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Garnet temple Occam's razor: When a nonwhite armflaps about racism, it's about low IQ, not because of some half-hearted logic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452623) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Oh, you’re another racist. Your opinion doesn’t matter, either, because you’re too tied in emotions and feelings to think clearly. You’re also morally bankrupt, but that’s beside the point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452644) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Garnet temple Oh, you’re another nonwhite. Your opinion doesn’t matter, either, because you’re too tied in emotions and feelings to think clearly. You’re also morally bankrupt, but that’s beside the point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452663) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Typical illogical racist unable to make cogent arguments:
*. Thinks that the absence of racism is immoral, but racism is not * Thinks that because he is racist and illogical, the absence of racism must also lead to illogic. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:16 PM Author: Garnet temple Can you link to where I said these things
I'm not racist and nothing I said was racist--they were mere statements of fact |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt They aren’t sending their best, folks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452818) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:27 PM Author: cerebral magenta jap candlestick maker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456251) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot Wouldn't most of the merit-based immigration be from Asia/India? Hard to characterize that as a racist position.
And, to be fair, nothing is preventing people of other backgrounds from meeting those merit-based criteria. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Actually, the second-largest source of merit-based visas would be Mexico. And yes, DrakeMalkard is a confirmed racist, who uses terms like “mud people” and “ Spics”. He is a racist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452639) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Vermilion locale to confirm your position is "racists believe x policy is beneficial therefore x policy is necessarily a racist policy" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452645) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:07 PM Author: lemon azn we're talking about high skill merit not the merit of unskilled laborers willing to work for slave wages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452649) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot >> Actually, the second-largest source of merit-based visas would be Mexico. <<
Okayyyyyyy.... |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Look it up. Depending on the year ( occasionally they’re number one or three) , the second- largest percentage of college-educated immigrants to the US come from Mexico (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452679) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot so then his statement is even less racist?
Not following you here. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic I am making two separate arguments:
1) On merit alone, his statement is stupid 2) But he is a racist, so coming from him, it carries even less merit, because it’s predicated on emotion, not unbiased logic. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:15 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook If Mexico is the largest source of merit migration, great
They aren't poor burdens on society that will reflexively vote for the party that gives them the most handouts |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt Would be great if that were the case (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452829) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Mexico is the second largest source of college educated migrants to the US. Some years they’re number three or number one. That is a fact. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452837) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt We need STEM not Burrito studies majors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452859) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University https://www.migrationpolicy.org/sites/default/files/resize/source_images/SPT-College2016-F3-trans-630x405.png
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source: https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/college-educated-immigrants-united-states#Geographic Distribution |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt lol can’t take these libs at their word for anything (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452900) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452926) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Oh, so number four ( instead of two or three) in your chart, huh? Gee, you got me there! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452937) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt Yeah he caught you lying. How embarrassing for you. I imagine you’re used to it by now tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452948) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:42 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University Yes I caught you fabricating a statement (lying), especially since you claimed they were occasionally #1, which is absurd on its face given these numbers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452962) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic This is batshit crazy. Bye. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452987) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453000) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University Explain how this is anything other than a statement of fact, let alone batshit crazy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453031) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:50 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic It’s batshit crazy, because 1) it nitpicks two or three vs four on a specific year, when these numbers historically vary and 2) assumes that quoting this variance is “ lying”
Lol, yeah you got me - this year is four vs two or three. Thanks for clearing that up. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:50 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University Okay now show me a year when they were #1 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453055) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University By the way, that was just a randomly selected year - I found a report from 2007 which states:
"The top three countries of origin for college-educated immigrants were India (14.2 percent), China (9.7 percent), and the Philippines (8.7 percent)."
In other words, effectively the same as the 2014 numbers. Looks like the numbers don't vary much after all. Please find any dataset with Mexico even as high as #3 - your statement would still be wrong and misleading, but at least you'd have a bit of wiggle room. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Brass kitchen by far the largest source of immigrants to the US is only the 4th largest source of college grads LOL Toltecs are done here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452977) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Well yeah - cause Chinese and Indians can’t walk here. Ease of crossing the birder means more unskilled workers can come (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452994) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot so we need a wall? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453005) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453016) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453035) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453064) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Sickened Orchestra Pit Black Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453098) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453144) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453150) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:50 PM Author: Brass kitchen your attention span + verbal/mathematical facility are excellent advertisements for the cause of more Mixtec diabetic day laborers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453054) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University And Mexican immigratns are ~1% of H1B visas, so one can imagine those "college grads" aren't lighting the world on fire with their brilliant minds (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453018) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt cr and bar for h1b visa is not particularly high from a technical/academic perspective (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453081) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:56 PM Author: Brass kitchen yeah the primary use is to import computer janitors so you can save money on the white ones with seniority (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453114) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453128) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:19 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot uh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452754) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:37 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground percentage of the U.S. population or percentage among other immigrants from their home country? that makes an enormous difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452916) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Walnut 180 principal's office That has very little to do with an actual merit-based immigration policy lol (esp when you're talking about CURRENT immigration, not what would happen under a revised immigration policy based primarily on merit). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453072) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Mischievous space i love that libs are now openly classist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452624) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:10 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook The point stands by itself. You're simply attacking the messenger (me) for being less holy in your quasi religious morality hierarchy. I'm an unwashed heretic and thus my points don't matter
As to your second point. When my English, kraut, and lutefisk nigger forebears came to the country, there was no giant welfare state in which the government had a tacit agreement to take care of everyone and anyone within its borders. That has changed. You cannot have open borders with poor migrants flooding in while simultaneously keeping up a welfare state. Period.
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot >> You cannot have open borders with poor migrants flooding in while simultaneously keeping up a welfare state. Period. <<
Wrong. You can if the underclass votes for you... |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:16 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Sure you can. There is nothing wrong with our current system; it serves us quite well - much better than any other large, developed nation with high immigration rates. Our GDP per capita is higher, our unemployment lower, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452732) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Vermilion locale the current system favors skilled immigration to a large extent. Is that wrong? I am having trouble nailing down your position here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452747) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:23 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic No, it does not. Our current system favors family reunification. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452785) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground so why do we break up families at age 18? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452946) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt Stagnant wages for 30 years is good for Americans? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452842) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:44 PM Author: bull headed autistic crackhouse sex offender Our current system is completely unsustainable. Have you seen the explosion re healthcare costs? It’ll get worse as boomers age another ten years. Expenses must be reduced. Alternatively, UMC and wealthy will abscond in the next ten years. But, politically, liberals are voting for universal healthcare, education, etc. it’s a nightmare.
I’m 100% with you, these tax cuts were ill timed. But the idea that this current system is sustainable is nonsense. You cannot have unlimited immigration and a welfare state. If you do, the only people who will stay are those who are net benefiters from that welfare state. It’s a race to the bottom. It’s like an insurance program where everybody can select in knowing when they will die. It doesn’t work. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot cr.
I'm a very highly paid professional and I'm entertaining the idea of leaving this country at some point, ideally to Switzerland.
10-20 years ago that sentiment would have been unthinkable by me given my patriotism. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic It’s non about quasi-religious morality. You are, in fact, completely un-American, blinded by hate for others, and consequently incapable of reasoning clearly about topics relating to subjects such as immigration. Everything you say is predicated on your hate. There is no reasoning with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452773) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook Burn the heretic! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452781) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Oh, poor little baby! Are you a victim? Are you being persecuted for your views? Do you need a safe space? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452795) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook I'm not objecting to your invective, I'm making fun of you because that's what you are reduced to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452800) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian It went over her head. Libs are no longer capable of humor, only morally righteous anger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452813) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic I don’t have to make fun of you. You are actually a whining baby seeking shelter in a safe space. If that weren’t the case, you’d make your racism publicly known. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452833) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook You're only a heretic in private! So cowardly! Make it public so we can burn you at the stake! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452860) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic You are a coward, that much is true. I’m glad you’re capable of at least that bit of introspection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452884) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook Makes one of us! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452898) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Cute. Now don’t you have a cross-burning to attend? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452930) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:41 PM Author: Rambunctious bawdyhouse travel guidebook We do that on the weekends (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452953) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:26 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University https://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/More_a370d6_6008160.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452816) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452854) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CmO7anMWIAA-l0o.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452834) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground I guarantee I have more experience with immigration than you do, despite the fact that I'm a U.S. citizen born to U.S. citizens. I am against unskilled and low-skilled immigration and against student visas. Citizens should speak english, be able to recite the ten commandments, and explain the history of our bill of rights. We can't enforce that against citizens, so we should damn well enforce it against prospective immigrants. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452991) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Do you agree that the American economy and country are different in 2018 than they were in 1850, 1910, or 1950? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452707) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:23 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452782) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:26 PM Author: excitant house-broken ceo mental disorder Julia, please answer this question, and briefly describe what you think are the differences, tyia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452814) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Julia, pls respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452839) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:34 PM Author: excitant house-broken ceo mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452885) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:51 PM Author: jet glittery bbw piazza Changes to the country are only relevant when discussing an issue that requires them be; e.g. I'm sure this is one of her immediate go-to's when gun controls comes up, "When the second amendment was drafted, people still used muskets..."
It's astonishing we even let her speak on here. My baseline for anyone being able to have an opinion on anything is if they can pay their own fucking rent. Given that she went in-house as a whore to some old white dude to cover her debt and expenses, I don't think she merits being able to opine (since it's Julia...) on anything other than the working conditions of a champagne room. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453001) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:28 PM Author: excitant house-broken ceo mental disorder Julia I know you're fucking poasting right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35454487) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Fuchsia stock car indirect expression liberal mind at work here:
DM proposed X but I strongly oppose X because
1) HE IS RACIST OMG (relevance even if true?) 2) We have been doing what I (incorrectly) presume to be X for centuries so we should continue doing X - this doesn't mean that we should continue doing so in 2018 just because we had this policy before
can you actually respond to his argument? are you aware that almost all western europeans dont need any visa to visit US while africans need one? should we do away with this obvious racially discriminatory policy too?
are you interested in doing the sensible/right thing or the non racist thing that makes you feel good? if later go join a charity and stop talking about politics |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:18 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Are you reading what I am writing, or just knee jerk regurgitating conservative talking points? Your post is entirely non responsive to anything I said . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452745) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:20 PM Author: Vermilion locale you said: "Second, and most importantly, proles immigrating from poor countries is what America has always been about. Now the descendants of poor proles like yourself want to get uppity and think you’re better than the newly-arriving proles. Of course you’re not; your bloodline is from potato or bratwurst proles, but is prole nonetheless. Nearly every successful person in America is essentially nouveau riche trash"
he characterized this as: "2) We have been doing what I (incorrectly) presume to be X for centuries so we should continue doing X"
what am I missing |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian You have to dumb it down for her. Assume youre speaking to the least intelligent member of a municipal court jury. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452796) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Quite simply, again, there is no need to change our current system, because 1) ours is a nation colonized by and defined by low-skill immigrants and immigration 2) to change this would be not only to disavow our heritage, but also to undo a large part of what has made us successful 3) our system works well, and reducing levels of immigration would be to our disadvantage 4) why suddenly the desire to change our system? Surely it’s not because of economics, because immigration is not adversely impacting our economy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452824) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian You do realize that throughout our history we have turned on and off the flow of immigration, right? You do understand that there exists American history prior to 1960? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452836) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Oh, look! Another patronizing dolt! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452844) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian I couldnt tell if you understood this fact based on your above statements. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452863) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic That migration ebbs and flows for any number of reasons does not in any way alter the validity of the arguments presented above. In some cases, in fact it strengthens them. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452874) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian You do realize that the “ebb and flow” of immigration was due to deliberate national policy based on national self interest and not because of some inalienable right of anyone to immigrate to the United States, right?
The Statue of Liberty poem was propaganda, not law. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic No, it was also due to wars, famines, plagues and good ol’ economics, at various points in time. I.e. - much the same phenomena that have driven immigration for all ages. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452922) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:41 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Actually, no. Starting in 1880, following the civil war, Congress started to regulate immigration. This regulation was based on what was good for the country, not because it was good for the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452954) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:43 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Let me state this more clearly: Irrespective of varying levels of regulation, immigration patterns varied based on a number of other factors. The peak of immigration was in 1907; we have yet to surpass that peak rate when comparing on a population-inflation basis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452971) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Lol thats precisely because our policy ALLOWED IT AT THE TIME. It was good for the country AT THE TIME to allow a lot of immigration.
We have two factors impacting immigration: supply (wars, famine, disease that cause people to want to come) and demand (needs of country as set by Congress).
Just because there is a huge supply of immigrants ready to come here doesnt mean that Congress has to let them all in. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Congress varied in its laxity , and superimposed on this were natural phenomena. Thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453092) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:48 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35454643) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:22 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456229) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452840) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Wholey shit. This is the Lib argument at its most pure for limitless and open immigration for now and forever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452878) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:36 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Immigration is a natural human phenomenon. In a country premised on immigration, even more so. Furthermore, immigration is self-regulating. People don’t come when there is no work for them. Recall, for example, that bet immigration from Mexico was negative during the recession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452904) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian “Immigration is a natural human phenomenon. In a country premised on immigration, even more so. Furthermore, immigration is self-regulating.”
Ok, yes or no: any person born anywhere in the world has the right to immigrate to the United States? |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian This simple question should be the starting point for any immigration debate with a lib.
If they answer yes, then there is no point debating them.
If they answer no, then you have a established a foundation from which to build a constructive dialogue. |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453103) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Of course, barring criminals/terrisists, and those with communicable diseases or who otherwise present a threat to our safety. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453003) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:49 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Holy shit you really are unhinged! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453051) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Vermilion locale hahahah so I could just have an ocean liner full of Liberians back and forth constantly dropping them off in baltimore and it would just self regulate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453121) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Sure. We could even use Ellis Island again like we did for the millions of uneducated Europeans we imported for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453134) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:46 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35454630) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:20 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35455732) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:22 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456231) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:04 AM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35458115) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 1:52 AM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35496679) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:38 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt “People don’t come when there is no work for them. ”
... unless you’re offering them free education and other handouts
“bet immigration from Mexico was down during the recession”
And how was immigration from other countries in Latin America during that period |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:27 PM Author: Sickened Orchestra Pit Black Woman you aren't part of the liberal media elite no matter how much you want to be. you don't have to parrot their nonsense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452821) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:35 PM Author: iridescent son of senegal office so you're in favour of unrestricted flooding of muslims & nationalist mexicans into colombia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452899) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt I certainly am. I’m not Colombian tho. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452941) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic I’m happy for anyone without a criminal background or intent or any communicable didseqsesto immigrate to Colombia. It’s also a country of immigrants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453059) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:25 PM Author: wild liquid oxygen sound barrier The argument for merit-based migration primarily rests on the notion that immigration policy should not affirmatively disadvantage incumbent citizens’ standard of living, and especially not disadvantage poor citizens. Aside from analytically dubious macro economic “secondary effects” theories, there is really no solid rebuttal of the ancient notion that an increase in job seekers leads to a reduction in wages for the jobs sought. It is commonly said that “no Americans” want to perform low wage jobs, so we need low skilled migration. In reality, no American wants those jobs for that WAGE, a wage that is depressed by an oversupply of labor. As a liberal, I find it difficult to understand why you think the solution is immigration and not policies that result in wage increases for the poor who are already here and for whose care we are bound by the brotherhood of country to provide for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453364) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Coral Adventurous University (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453367) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 8:22 PM Author: appetizing community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456228) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:17 PM Author: violent trip home turdskin "is what America has always been about."
Hold on. I want to understand the principle at issue.
How do we know when America is "about" something, and what time period do we look to?
This could be a rich source of guiding principles. |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 6:41 PM Author: Red aphrodisiac parlour ratface Reality is racist. We’re not all equal. There’s a reason Asians and Caucasians don’t immigrate in any real amount into Africa or South America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35479586) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:26 PM Author: violent spot Libs: Automation is coming so we need a universal basic income. More unskilled immigrants now! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452815) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452825) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt La Raza has an elite programming division tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452889) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:33 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35452875) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:46 PM Author: violet laughsome trump supporter Julia believes that have any restrictions on immigration at all is racist because America is primarily an economic zone. There’s a thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453012) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian She genuinely believes that immigration is a human right granted by some higher power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453076) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Opaque Big Striped Hyena People Who Are Hurt she and her ilk don't believe in the Right to Exclude. pretty big implications there for USA and western civilization (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453125) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Histrionic set psychic Correct. The right to exclude should be limited to safety concerns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453139) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35454636) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:51 PM Author: violent trip home turdskin Sure, if that's all a nation is interested in. But I'll think you'll find other interests. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35496051) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:51 PM Author: Charismatic tanning salon ITT: the third world (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453063) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:53 PM Author: Splenetic Site Idiot damn, another excellent and novel contribution to a thread by nyuug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453080) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Brass kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453124) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Charismatic tanning salon damn, another post literally copied from earl verbatim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453127) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Massive Theatre Persian Youre slipping, bro.
I think getting nowag’d in Scandanavia broke your brain |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Charismatic tanning salon i love ironside. i just think it's hilarious when he gets pissed about me fucking white girls (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453197) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Fragrant Antidepressant Drug Hunting Ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453140) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 2:00 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453154) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 1:56 PM Author: Walnut 180 principal's office Lol @ engaging Julia's mental illness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35453115) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Submissive Multi-billionaire Box Office Titcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35454639) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:11 PM Author: Vermilion locale Sadly, Donny, many libs believe this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35455680) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:20 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456744) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:17 PM Author: Vivacious Jet-lagged Meetinghouse Mexican Conturds: Immigrants and foreigners are taking all ARE jobs!! We want the most highly educated and skilled immigrants ONLY! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35455716) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:17 PM Author: Vermilion locale Bloodacre cmon its more complicated than that! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35455722) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 7:18 PM Author: Vivacious Jet-lagged Meetinghouse Mexican Would love to chat, but I already dropped the mic on this thread. []Deace! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35455727) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:21 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building So people want less immigration period but to the extent we allow it there should be a clear benefit to the country. Do you disagree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456755) |
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Date: February 21st, 2018 9:22 PM Author: Avocado Lodge Quadroon (Prole) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35456765) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 12:13 AM Author: Vivacious Jet-lagged Meetinghouse Mexican http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&mc=171&forum_id=2#35455727 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35458209) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:56 PM Author: smoky bipolar milk church building Do you really want me to respond to your silly comment? The point is that large scale immigration is pretty much always a bad thing. It should be small scale and to the extent it exists we should only take people we actually need. Seems pretty basic, no? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35496071) |
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Date: February 26th, 2018 9:03 PM Author: beady-eyed faggot firefighter sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3899461&forum_id=2#35494757) |