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Hilarious how "scientific enlightenment" atheists got pwned by SJWs
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:18 PM Author: electric son of senegal All this talk how without an oppressive NIGGER of religion the society will be ruled by reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462943) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:43 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency *yoke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463176) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 6:01 PM Author: electric son of senegal Edited (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463890) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: titillating garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465436) |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:19 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath huh? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462954) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:20 PM Author: electric son of senegal What's unclear to you, fluid-gendered soy boy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462965) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:20 PM Author: Stirring church aspie atheists thought that without religion life would be ruled by reason, but instead NORELIGION opened up the pathway for completely irrational SJWs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462966) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath Social justice is wholly a product of reason though. It is true that minorities, females, whatever are socially disadvantaged in any given society. The error is in thinking you can strongarm people into changing their nature, but that has always been true with rationalism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462998) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM Author: Territorial boyish university yep females in the United States and Western Europe are truly disadvantaged by society *blank stare* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463012) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:55 PM Author: underhanded outnumbered crackhouse CR. there has never been a more privileged group in the modern Western world
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:25 PM Author: electric son of senegal Sure, 36 genders are the product of reason and intelligence, lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463015) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:29 PM Author: violent ape if you fail to notice that error it doesn't sound like pure reason, it sounds like some reason combined with some irrational emotional rationalizations about why your group isn't successful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463057) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:23 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath I'm not talking about the people who advocate for social justice. I'm talking about the concept itself, which is born of reason. Examples of pure reason unadulterated with emotional rationalization are rare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465495) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:30 PM Author: racy sexy black woman LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463063) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:31 PM Author: Floppy Aqua Shrine lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463084) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:44 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency don't say "wholly" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463187) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:03 PM Author: Cerise startling point Wtf never realized you were a flame account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465333) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: titillating garrison I used to think you were smart fuck me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465446) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: wonderful hunting ground affirmative action LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465503) |
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Date: March 1st, 2018 9:29 AM Author: Maize exciting range telephone lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35513110) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:21 PM Author: violent ape it's amazing in that i used to despise the enlightenment atheists for having a crass materialistic view of religion and a shallow understanding of metaphysics, and yet i now sympathize with them more than the SJWs (even the supposedly Christian ones who are still shitlibs). i guess they give the impression of being genuinely concerned with seeking the truth whatever the social consequences, even if they're dumbasses who fail to appreciate any of the high IQ approaches to religious belief. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35462969) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:24 PM Author: electric son of senegal very true, they were genuine and spoke for themselves, while SJWs are literally possessed by an ideology (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463001) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:49 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency What are the high IQ approaches to religious belief? Genuinely curious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463235) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Ruby multi-colored voyeur newt there are none. christers are proven to be low iq and are insecure about this so they project and act like atheists are dumb and just missing some "deeper meaning". its lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463251) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:53 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency I have to say, there are some even on boart who are fucking brilliant thinkers--the best out there--and they are evidently LARPing as Christian in some fashion.
Which is why its intriguing. I don't know how you get to the angels on the head of a pin stuff before you get to support for the existence of a god, and the Christian god at that. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:53 PM Author: Shivering stead "What are the high IQ approaches to religious belief? Genuinely curious."
As far as I can tell, it mostly boils down to treating religious texts as metaphors that encode the truths of evolutionary psychology. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:55 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency Well that's what the hi iq Christians are sort of forced into doing by virtue of some perhaps unrealized tension between their professed Christianity and their intellect/ training ... but I don't know that that is particularly helpful. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463290) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: titillating garrison Wow you’re sooooooo smart mr spaceman!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465455) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:00 PM Author: razzle hissy fit plaza That's peterson's take. I don't know if I'd stress the evo psych "necessary truths" angle as much. It requires a lot of justificatory baggage. But I see the concern of just doing "novel but contingent answers to existential questions." It leaves open the possibility of better future solutions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463321) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:54 PM Author: violent ape i was thinking about various approaches that incorporate things like theistic evolution, acceptance that some parts of the bible are not literally true, acknowledgement that Christians have done some pretty bad things in the past, etc. especially those which don't go to the opposite extreme of embracing progressivism wholeheartedly without admitting how much of a change this is from previous Christian belief. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463274) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:58 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency I suppose a noisy (but still valid) response to this would be something along the lines of, "Your changing the rules of the game," or "Stop moving goalpoasts." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463303) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:00 PM Author: violent ape acceptance that the Bible is not all literally true dates back to St. Augustine if not before. it was a relatively recent development (last ~200 years) to try to counteract the influence of liberalism by denying it outright. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463320) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:04 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency Interesting.
Can you be a Catholic and deny, say, Virgin birth or Jesus' resurrection?
Can you be a Christian and deny the resurrection?
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:06 PM Author: violent ape i think the answer is "no" but you can find people who disagree or at least equivocate about things like whether you have to believe the Resurrection really happened or whether it might have just seemed to happen in the minds of the Apostles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463374) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:15 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency I think there is some room for equivocation also.
But --the difficulty that I have--is there are at least a handful of definitional beliefs you have to have to be a Christian--not least of which is that there is a God --not a sim maker or anything like that--but an actual god who seems to correlate in some respect with the described god of the new testament.
It seems to me that this has to be demonstrated as Probable before any other musings or analysis or critical thought even matters on the subject. And I just don't see how this has been done. There's some circular self-referential posturing and assertions about the need for "faith" in lieu of evidence, but that's ... a whole other gloss. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 8:54 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465259) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM Author: razzle hissy fit plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463383) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:55 PM Author: razzle hissy fit plaza Christian teachings are symbolic expressions of ancient subconscious solutions to existential problems that are better than any possible solutions provided in a fast paced high technology society in which members are further from themselves and reality than any point in history (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463285) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:58 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath explain how they are better. it is a common misconception that civilization was at its height during periods of flourishing Christianity. The reverse is true. The most devoutly Christian era was a literal Dark Age. The more knowledge that is on hand, the more civilization there is. Now if you dislike civilization and prefer Christianity, fine, but that is just a matter of personal pathology. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463308) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:06 PM Author: razzle hissy fit plaza It's a structure not a content argument. The idea would be that 2000 years ago pace of change, connection to nature and societal development were all in the sweet spot to produce a properly balanced existential system, and that contemporary society is too humanistic and dominated by technology to have access to timeless truths about our relationship to the nonphysical.
The benefit of being where we are now is that we can refine the balanced system to get ride of knowledge claims that were overreaching but hold on to the existential/metaphysical stuff that our humanistic age is too stifled to produce. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath lol, well I don't share your optimism. Human nature is what it is. We are absurd beings that exist in the equivalent of a metaphysical penal colony. You will spend your entire life chasing down 'solutions' and then realize it was all futile in the end. You are better off tapping your intellect for personal creativity and contentment. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463418) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 6:03 PM Author: razzle hissy fit plaza Enjoy that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463907) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 1:11 AM Author: Scarlet Awkward Indian Lodge Tbf you seem miserable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35475355) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 1:19 AM Author: vigorous splenetic office elastic band lmao, you parrot Ecclesiastes then your solution is putting things in your ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35475377) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35479653) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:06 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency (Lorenzo de'Medici) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463365) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:08 PM Author: violent ape even leaving aside all of the disputes over the phrase "Dark Ages" i feel like hardcore traditionalist Catholics prefer the High Middle Ages (especially St. Thomas Aquinas) over the Early Middle Ages. you don't have to reject Catholicism to realize that the end of the Roman Empire fucked up the West for centuries. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463388) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:17 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency (guy who Hates Charlemagne!) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463480) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:41 PM Author: chocolate theatre Faggot talking shit about justinian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465616) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:18 PM Author: Floppy Aqua Shrine this is insanely credited. the hubris of casting out 2,000+ years of societal moral development is horrifying. Look what we've gotten ourselves into. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463481) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:21 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency Stop exaggerating what people are saying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463512) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 5:21 PM Author: exhilarant international law enforcement agency You can get the same stuff from art and literature though, without the same tribalism etc.
Why do you have to take all the poison to get a little of the good? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: titillating garrison YOU ARE THE DUMBEST FUCKING PERSON HERE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35465451) |
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Date: February 27th, 2018 7:34 PM Author: electric son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35501474) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:30 PM Author: pea-brained motley genital piercing you're probably thinking of things and thinking of "reality" in very limited, very narrow epistemic terms. a lot of the more complex philosophy of religion deals with a different set of epistemic premises. to draw an analogy, let's say that "reality" has aspects of a simulation or a psuedo-simulation. in that case, what "is" is a programmable function, and there are systems in which the behavior of a "character" actually helps program the simulation (genetic algorithms, etc.).
so in that sense, a religious "belief" can be seen not as an attempt to stake a claim to a "truth" in a fixed epistemic universe (which is probably the level at which your epistemic thinking is focused), but rather, an attempt to bring the self into alignment with a NEW reality; an emergent reality which is produced IN CONCORDANCE with the belief.
these are massive oversimplifications, but you can see how this sort of thinking is a lot more complex than most critics of religion would realize. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:30 PM Author: racy sexy black woman CR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463069) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 4:42 PM Author: Shivering stead SJWs are more appropriately traced to godless commies, not the new atheists. Old school enlightenment atheists are almost irrelevant. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35463168) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 12:46 AM Author: electric son of senegal it's all the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35475250) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 1:20 AM Author: vigorous splenetic office elastic band My initial instinct was to disagree with you, but upon further thought, I agree in whole. It's 50/50, you either believe in god or you don't and you'll burn in hell. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35475379) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 6:48 PM Author: electric son of senegal yep (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35479605) |
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Date: February 24th, 2018 1:12 AM Author: vigorous splenetic office elastic band (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3900758&forum_id=2#35475358) |