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Coward Florida cop caught standing outside school during shooting
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:09 PM Author: at-the-ready knife area https://www.wptv.com/news/national/deputy-at-florida-high-school-where-17-were-killed-never-went-in-resigns
Deputy at Florida high school where 17 were killed 'never went in,' resigns
Justin Boggs The Broward County Sheriff's deputy who was assigned to be the school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas High School during last week's massacre that left 17 dead resigned this morning after being suspended without pay, Sheriff Scott Israel announced on Thursday.
Israel said that Deputy Scott Peterson was outside of the building during the time of the shooting. According to Israel, video evidence suggested that Peterson remained outside for four minutes. The entire mass shooting lasted an estimated six minutes, Israel said.
Related story: Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz recorded during 911 call in Palm Beach County
"Scott Peterson was absolutely on campus through this entire event," Israel said. "He was armed, he was in uniform. After seeing video, witness statements, and Scott Peterson's very own statement, I decided this morning to suspend Scott Peterson without pay pending an internal investigation. As is his right, Scott Peterson chose to resign."
Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.
Peterson will be eligible for retirement following his resignation.
Justin Boggs is a writer for the E.W. Scripps National Desk. Follow him on Twitter @jjboggs or on Facebook. |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:11 PM Author: 180 field partner you can bet this guy has plenty of Billy Badass moments under his belt, too, tazing defenseless homeless people, etc. these guys are the scum of the earth. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:12 PM Author: at-the-ready knife area He’ll probably end up blowing his brains out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465401) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: 180 field partner lol, not bloody likely. the last line of the story says he's eligible for his pension now. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: ruby demanding station But no buds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465417) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: duck-like trailer park and now we know why he failed to act (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465454) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:22 PM Author: ruby demanding station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465489) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 PM Author: fishy newt good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: ruby demanding station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465414) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: white soul-stirring national telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465415) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Exciting market philosopher-king this was my first thought as well. he must feel incredibly, incredibly ashamed, guilty, cowardly, or some combination of all three. add on to that the consequences to his social life and this guy is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: ruby demanding station Good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465433) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle heaven or he might just justify it as, "not my fault student was crazy and guns were easy to get!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465440) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: Exciting market philosopher-king yeah maybe he's rationalized it as fuck it, i would have been just one more dead body. which is probably true. we expect these guys to be heroes and sacrifice themselves if necessary, but it can't be so simple when you know you're alone and outgunned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465468) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag Or maybe he would have shot some kid w a book in his hand or some shot and gotten arrested for murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465510) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:37 PM Author: Brilliant institution faggot firefighter Now image that student was black... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466759) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Canary glittery people who are hurt wrinkle Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465511) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: bronze free-loading senate fanboi he's a 66 year old man in Florida who worked as a school cop. what "social life" are we really worried about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466042) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: cerebral site boistinker Or he could be protecting his pension. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466083) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:42 PM Author: mind-boggling maroon water buffalo People good enough to feel those kinds of emotions don't become cops anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466818) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Bisexual Sanctuary LOL
he is a BOOMER COP. 0 chance of him feeling an ounce of guilt. he would have killed the innocent kids himself if he could. he's headed straight to cocomo and never looking back |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:10 AM Author: Costumed Honey-headed Mad Cow Disease Public Bath exactly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468018) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: ruby demanding station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465408) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: buck-toothed school cafeteria incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465421) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:27 PM Author: unholy embarrassed to the bone codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465517) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag Bet that school resource officer that did this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1e8qe-2O8
Wouldve handled business in Florida |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: ruby demanding station Eh nigs are wild monkeys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465431) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle heaven bet Zimmerman would've shot him for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:21 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag lol cr. He woulda murked cruz months ago if he was the resource officer. Prob got him doing laundry in his house or something on the grounds he was acting weird at school a while back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465484) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:15 AM Author: diverse tan personal credit line depressive spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Motley tank nursing home Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465420) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: gaped chocolate private investor Cowardly Florida Cops - Standing Outside a Shot-Up Highschool With a Glock in my Hands.mp3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465422) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: infuriating garrison lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465635) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: Ungodly university stain Hahahahhaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466090) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM Author: fishy newt well done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:49 PM Author: Aromatic yellow idea he suggested theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466871) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle heaven why do we pay cops so much and give them pensions if they're not willing to put their lives in danger? isn't that the whole justification for their compensation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465430) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag Seems like a school of that size should have more than one cop there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465438) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle heaven some schools have none, so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465447) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: 180 field partner apparently they genuinely believe that 1. 'assuring officer safety regardless of costs in loss of human life' 2. 'compelling the general public to offer displays of submission and respect for muh authority'
are their 2 prime directives. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: infuriating garrison lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465639) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:33 PM Author: Stirring snowy hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466028) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: cerebral site boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466125) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:41 PM Author: mind-boggling maroon water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466812) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:23 PM Author: Fragrant Haunting Goyim Scourge Upon The Earth and HOLY SHIT if a cop dies in the line of duty you sure as shit hear about, "Oh my GOD, how could this happen?!" Like a cop being shot should be more rare than a plumber or electrician or lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465498) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:42 PM Author: infuriating garrison lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465631) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Dead Pea-brained Locale Goal In Life I was with you until you said lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466045) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:45 PM Author: Razzmatazz bawdyhouse kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466187) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: Silver piazza cuck In Wisconsin, they just made it a felony to threaten a family court lawyer.
It's reactionary bullshit to an incident where some AZN immigrant murdered his estranged wife's divorce attorney.
Really fucking dumb, it ought to be open season on lawyers |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Brass Shrine Corn Cake What does MILITARY DATA say on how non-ops soldiers perform when they come under fire? I would imagine everyone shits themselves and doesn't fire at all or does ineffectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465441) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: duck-like trailer park nonsense. some will choke, some won't. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Brass Shrine Corn Cake Jessica Lynch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465499) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:28 PM Author: duck-like trailer park she was unconscious i had to look her up |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag Pretty sure if cop goes in there he blasts like 4 kids by accident and gets convicted of murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465505) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Brass Shrine Corn Cake (Not a law masterman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465508) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:26 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag (Hasn’t watched news in 3 years) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465514) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:41 PM Author: Exciting market philosopher-king the cop data is well established and shows they suck at hitting targets.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Stirring snowy hunting ground Amazing how much more sane people were just 10 or so years ago. An article and police shootings with only one mention of race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466103) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Arousing Forum LOL at sheriff hiding this until after the town hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465466) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: duck-like trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465470) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Nudist temple nowag Lol yep. He let ppl rant “GUN CONTROL NOW. ONLY COPS GET GUNS”
Waited
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Thinks blame is on guns finally
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we had a cop there hiding outside the whole time who didn’t do anything. Oops lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: infuriating garrison lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465642) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:51 PM Author: Trip range dog poop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465727) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: bronze free-loading senate fanboi libs were right about cops and guns, film at 11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466053) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: Rough-skinned resort reading party The same libs who hate cops and think they’re the only ones who should have guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466134) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: bronze free-loading senate fanboi those are dumb libs. the credited lib position is that cops used to be deeply respected pillars of the community but are now almost uniformly lazy, stupid community college grads with a racist chip on their shoulder. and smarts/elites should have guns, not crazies or dumbs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466201) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:57 PM Author: lascivious native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466324) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM Author: khaki turdskin crackhouse No, you're all the same. Sorry ;)
Remember the ACLU wanting to relax rules that made it tougher for crazies to buy guns? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: Rough-skinned resort reading party "almost uniformly... with a racist chip on their shoulder"
lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:18 PM Author: bronze free-loading senate fanboi bro, your average husky white are country cop LOVES fucking with black and hispanic people. it's the only thing that gets them through their shifts.
i know, because i'm related to three such people. they basically huddle up next to the keg on holidays and brag about how they stuck it to the niggers that quarter. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:19 PM Author: Rough-skinned resort reading party what is your solution for policing minority communities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466589) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:21 PM Author: bronze free-loading senate fanboi pay cops more. encourage (without doing straight AA hiring) minorities from those neighborhoods to become cops. better "community policing" generally. relaxation of petty crime and pot enforcement so that the big criminals get got (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466614) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Spruce galvanic hall More like:
School shooting ... Uproar as it trickles out that FBI missed several tips and local police visited parents house 30-some odd times ... ... ... Now that fury has died down, let’s focus entirely on gun control and ignore clear lapses ... Have town hall ... Oops in addition to all of those other lapse, the on-grounds deputy didn’t do shit. Teehee! |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM Author: Stirring snowy hunting ground This is why we DONT need guns. Are heroes will protect us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466010) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Crystalline concupiscible ceo lol if even half of this turns out to be true
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/966854507744374784
Cliffs: County schools started reducing arrests in order to gain more funding from feds and state. They did this by literally just not arresting students and blatantly hiding crimes. Schools would have monthly quotas, and after those quotas were reached all bets were off. Kids could do whatever with no consequences. Gangs started targeting students to do their bidding and learned the timing. School Resource Officers (like this "cop") were there to enforce the policies, not to keep the kids safe. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: duck-like trailer park holy shit if true if true, this should be huge
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: khaki turdskin crackhouse Oh yeah, there was this big controversy in Broward about how the schools were supposedly picking on personality-disordered minority shithead kids by getting them in trouble all the time so they came up with this plan to be non-discriminatory. Here you go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466547) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:32 PM Author: Cerise swashbuckling puppy gunner Yep, cop probably figured the semi-auto rifle fire was coming from a black kid and he’d get in trouble if he tried to intervene
(Xoretard mentality) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: khaki turdskin crackhouse Well yeah. He didn't want to oppress a victimized black body of color and end up getting entered into Shaqueefa's database. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:43 PM Author: odious coral pisswyrm degenerate i heard the cop handed in his badge today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466146) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:46 PM Author: Lime supple legend state The cop was a Boomer? Well that explains it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466196) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Exhilarant mexican Lucky for him he has a common name so he could probably move to, say, Seattle and start over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466272) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:54 PM Author: Dead Pea-brained Locale Goal In Life Not just common, the first google results will always be for the notorious wife killer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466302) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:01 PM Author: Useless step-uncle's house i made this point last week in a thread about how "schools already have armed guards." this story didn't even exist then.
i said lol at the "security guards" most schools have. they are always older, barney fife cops ticking down days to retirement in what they think is a cush gig.
one of those bumbling aging officers isn't going to do shit in stopping school shootings. they don't do anything to stop petty crimes and the students don't respect them. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:35 PM Author: Cerise swashbuckling puppy gunner Ty. Now asess the ability of 37 yo history teacher shrews in same situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466733) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:45 AM Author: cerebral site boistinker Close call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467564) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:53 AM Author: Useless step-uncle's house well if the teacher is right there in the room, or across the hall, there's a better chance.
but one bumbling near-retirement cop, in a far part of the building, isn't going to stop anything.
and, btw, i'm undecided if i think teachers should be armed and have gun training requirements. i tend to think most can't handle it.
ideally, schools would have better discipline, not be afraid of the kids and their parent(s) and be afraid of getting sued, and kick these psychos out. you can usually tell which ones are dangerous. hell, this shooter had, what two dozen calls to the sheriff about him and the FBI was notified? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Cerise swashbuckling puppy gunner xoTrump: “teachers would be better at this. Give them a snub nose 38 and they’ll shoot the dude with the AK right in the eye.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466693) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:48 PM Author: at-the-ready knife area People complain about the militarization of cops and SWAT teams but this is why you need them. Officer friendly can’t do shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466863) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:49 AM Author: emerald pistol ape ACAB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467582) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:12 AM Author: multi-colored chestnut school faggotry Tbf, I don't think it's "well settled" in the LE community whether a single cop should go in or wait for backup, especially if the shooter has a rifle. It's prob. up to the officer's discretion. I don't know if this particular sheriff dept. had a policy or guideline on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467797) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:46 AM Author: Silver piazza cuck Virtually all mass shooters give up or commit suicide upon the slightest confrontation with police.
The one exception I can think of is the North Hollywood bank shootout. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 4:18 AM Author: appetizing cruise ship regret bank robbers aren't really mass shooters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467917) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:19 AM Author: Silver piazza cuck I agree but I can't really think of any other big incident that didn't quickly reach a conclusion when cops showed any sort of commitment whatsoever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468028) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:57 AM Author: Bistre juggernaut foreskin Sheriff should be arrested for using any warm body (in this case an elderly man) to fill what is supposed to be a serious position
Old guy was Zero-T and shook with fear like any old bitch |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:09 AM Author: Copper Bateful Theatre Wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468017) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM Author: Contagious center multi-billionaire The “school resource officer” gigs in Florida are where the police/sheriffs push (mostly girls) who can’t handle the street. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467999) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:03 AM Author: Copper Bateful Theatre Wagecucks LOL at the sheriff throwing this guy under the bus. The guard was clearly incompetent and unqualified for the job. This falls at the top. The sheriff acted like a fool on CNN and he's trying to distract everyone from his own incompetence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468004) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:06 AM Author: Copper Bateful Theatre Wagecucks The narcissist sheriff is writing about himself in third person. LOL
https://twitter.com/ScottJIsrael |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:11 AM Author: Costumed Honey-headed Mad Cow Disease Public Bath It's even worse if the police department employs a social media manager. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468020) |