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Coward Florida cop caught standing outside school during shooting
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:09 PM Author: adulterous chrome macaca https://www.wptv.com/news/national/deputy-at-florida-high-school-where-17-were-killed-never-went-in-resigns
Deputy at Florida high school where 17 were killed 'never went in,' resigns
Justin Boggs The Broward County Sheriff's deputy who was assigned to be the school resource officer at Stoneman Douglas High School during last week's massacre that left 17 dead resigned this morning after being suspended without pay, Sheriff Scott Israel announced on Thursday.
Israel said that Deputy Scott Peterson was outside of the building during the time of the shooting. According to Israel, video evidence suggested that Peterson remained outside for four minutes. The entire mass shooting lasted an estimated six minutes, Israel said.
Related story: Parkland shooter Nikolas Cruz recorded during 911 call in Palm Beach County
"Scott Peterson was absolutely on campus through this entire event," Israel said. "He was armed, he was in uniform. After seeing video, witness statements, and Scott Peterson's very own statement, I decided this morning to suspend Scott Peterson without pay pending an internal investigation. As is his right, Scott Peterson chose to resign."
Israel claimed that Peterson "clearly" knew there was a shooting, and was seen doing "nothing" on video. Israel added that there were no known issues with communication.
Peterson will be eligible for retirement following his resignation.
Justin Boggs is a writer for the E.W. Scripps National Desk. Follow him on Twitter @jjboggs or on Facebook. |
Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:11 PM Author: zombie-like jew toaster you can bet this guy has plenty of Billy Badass moments under his belt, too, tazing defenseless homeless people, etc. these guys are the scum of the earth. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:12 PM Author: adulterous chrome macaca He’ll probably end up blowing his brains out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465401) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: zombie-like jew toaster lol, not bloody likely. the last line of the story says he's eligible for his pension now. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage But no buds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465417) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Azure Shrine Double Fault and now we know why he failed to act (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465454) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:22 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465489) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:05 PM Author: brindle splenetic boistinker windowlicker good point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465414) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Arousing useless stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465415) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: wine dingle berry tank this was my first thought as well. he must feel incredibly, incredibly ashamed, guilty, cowardly, or some combination of all three. add on to that the consequences to his social life and this guy is fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465429) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage Good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465433) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: razzle market dysfunction or he might just justify it as, "not my fault student was crazy and guns were easy to get!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465440) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: wine dingle berry tank yeah maybe he's rationalized it as fuck it, i would have been just one more dead body. which is probably true. we expect these guys to be heroes and sacrifice themselves if necessary, but it can't be so simple when you know you're alone and outgunned. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465468) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig Or maybe he would have shot some kid w a book in his hand or some shot and gotten arrested for murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465510) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:37 PM Author: soggy sanctuary affirmative action Now image that student was black... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466759) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Lemon out-of-control temple patrolman Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465511) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Dead Stead he's a 66 year old man in Florida who worked as a school cop. what "social life" are we really worried about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466042) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: hilarious den rigor Or he could be protecting his pension. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466083) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:42 PM Author: fear-inspiring godawful field People good enough to feel those kinds of emotions don't become cops anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466818) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:52 PM Author: cream state LOL
he is a BOOMER COP. 0 chance of him feeling an ounce of guilt. he would have killed the innocent kids himself if he could. he's headed straight to cocomo and never looking back |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:10 AM Author: Elite useless brakes exactly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468018) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465408) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: naked faggotry water buffalo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465421) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:27 PM Author: Wonderful mauve brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465517) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig Bet that school resource officer that did this:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IY1e8qe-2O8
Wouldve handled business in Florida |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: Crawly Aphrodisiac Menage Eh nigs are wild monkeys (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465431) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:17 PM Author: razzle market dysfunction bet Zimmerman would've shot him for free (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:21 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig lol cr. He woulda murked cruz months ago if he was the resource officer. Prob got him doing laundry in his house or something on the grounds he was acting weird at school a while back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465484) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:15 AM Author: Provocative aquamarine really tough guy spin, ratfucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: Claret theatre laser beams Holy shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465420) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:14 PM Author: turquoise address Cowardly Florida Cops - Standing Outside a Shot-Up Highschool With a Glock in my Hands.mp3 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465422) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Puce Ceo Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465635) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:38 PM Author: domesticated costumed tattoo headpube Hahahahhaha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466090) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM Author: brindle splenetic boistinker windowlicker well done (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466452) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:49 PM Author: swashbuckling twisted athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466871) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:15 PM Author: razzle market dysfunction why do we pay cops so much and give them pensions if they're not willing to put their lives in danger? isn't that the whole justification for their compensation? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465430) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig Seems like a school of that size should have more than one cop there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465438) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: razzle market dysfunction some schools have none, so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465447) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: zombie-like jew toaster apparently they genuinely believe that 1. 'assuring officer safety regardless of costs in loss of human life' 2. 'compelling the general public to offer displays of submission and respect for muh authority'
are their 2 prime directives. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Puce Ceo Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465639) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:33 PM Author: Glittery sooty lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466028) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: hilarious den rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466125) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:41 PM Author: fear-inspiring godawful field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466812) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:23 PM Author: Motley indian lodge and HOLY SHIT if a cop dies in the line of duty you sure as shit hear about, "Oh my GOD, how could this happen?!" Like a cop being shot should be more rare than a plumber or electrician or lawyer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465498) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:42 PM Author: Puce Ceo Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465631) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: vigorous bonkers preventive strike I was with you until you said lawyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466045) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:45 PM Author: Contagious Becky Church Building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466187) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: titillating chartreuse feces stage In Wisconsin, they just made it a felony to threaten a family court lawyer.
It's reactionary bullshit to an incident where some AZN immigrant murdered his estranged wife's divorce attorney.
Really fucking dumb, it ought to be open season on lawyers |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Judgmental plum station What does MILITARY DATA say on how non-ops soldiers perform when they come under fire? I would imagine everyone shits themselves and doesn't fire at all or does ineffectively. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465441) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Azure Shrine Double Fault nonsense. some will choke, some won't. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Judgmental plum station Jessica Lynch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465499) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:28 PM Author: Azure Shrine Double Fault she was unconscious i had to look her up |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig Pretty sure if cop goes in there he blasts like 4 kids by accident and gets convicted of murder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465505) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Judgmental plum station (Not a law masterman) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465508) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:26 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig (Hasn’t watched news in 3 years) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465514) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:41 PM Author: wine dingle berry tank the cop data is well established and shows they suck at hitting targets.
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Glittery sooty lettuce Amazing how much more sane people were just 10 or so years ago. An article and police shootings with only one mention of race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466103) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:18 PM Author: awkward bossy people who are hurt bawdyhouse LOL at sheriff hiding this until after the town hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465466) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:19 PM Author: Azure Shrine Double Fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465470) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:24 PM Author: Frum fortuitous meteor rigpig Lol yep. He let ppl rant “GUN CONTROL NOW. ONLY COPS GET GUNS”
Waited
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Thinks blame is on guns finally
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we had a cop there hiding outside the whole time who didn’t do anything. Oops lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:43 PM Author: Puce Ceo Love Of Her Life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465642) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 9:51 PM Author: floppy whorehouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35465727) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Dead Stead libs were right about cops and guns, film at 11 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466053) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:42 PM Author: Bateful toilet seat rehab The same libs who hate cops and think they’re the only ones who should have guns? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466134) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Dead Stead those are dumb libs. the credited lib position is that cops used to be deeply respected pillars of the community but are now almost uniformly lazy, stupid community college grads with a racist chip on their shoulder. and smarts/elites should have guns, not crazies or dumbs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466201) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:57 PM Author: henna house digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466324) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM Author: Irate Office Roast Beef No, you're all the same. Sorry ;)
Remember the ACLU wanting to relax rules that made it tougher for crazies to buy guns? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: Bateful toilet seat rehab "almost uniformly... with a racist chip on their shoulder"
lol |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:18 PM Author: Dead Stead bro, your average husky white are country cop LOVES fucking with black and hispanic people. it's the only thing that gets them through their shifts.
i know, because i'm related to three such people. they basically huddle up next to the keg on holidays and brag about how they stuck it to the niggers that quarter. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:19 PM Author: Bateful toilet seat rehab what is your solution for policing minority communities? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466589) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:21 PM Author: Dead Stead pay cops more. encourage (without doing straight AA hiring) minorities from those neighborhoods to become cops. better "community policing" generally. relaxation of petty crime and pot enforcement so that the big criminals get got (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466614) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: twinkling partner More like:
School shooting ... Uproar as it trickles out that FBI missed several tips and local police visited parents house 30-some odd times ... ... ... Now that fury has died down, let’s focus entirely on gun control and ignore clear lapses ... Have town hall ... Oops in addition to all of those other lapse, the on-grounds deputy didn’t do shit. Teehee! |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:31 PM Author: Glittery sooty lettuce This is why we DONT need guns. Are heroes will protect us (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466010) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Learning disabled effete liquid oxygen spot lol if even half of this turns out to be true
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/966854507744374784
Cliffs: County schools started reducing arrests in order to gain more funding from feds and state. They did this by literally just not arresting students and blatantly hiding crimes. Schools would have monthly quotas, and after those quotas were reached all bets were off. Kids could do whatever with no consequences. Gangs started targeting students to do their bidding and learned the timing. School Resource Officers (like this "cop") were there to enforce the policies, not to keep the kids safe. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Azure Shrine Double Fault holy shit if true if true, this should be huge
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:16 PM Author: Irate Office Roast Beef Oh yeah, there was this big controversy in Broward about how the schools were supposedly picking on personality-disordered minority shithead kids by getting them in trouble all the time so they came up with this plan to be non-discriminatory. Here you go. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466547) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:32 PM Author: free-loading self-absorbed location quadroon Yep, cop probably figured the semi-auto rifle fire was coming from a black kid and he’d get in trouble if he tried to intervene
(Xoretard mentality) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:40 PM Author: Irate Office Roast Beef Well yeah. He didn't want to oppress a victimized black body of color and end up getting entered into Shaqueefa's database. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466805) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Burgundy galvanic orchestra pit i heard the cop handed in his badge today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466146) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:46 PM Author: white tripping brethren cuckold The cop was a Boomer? Well that explains it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466196) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:52 PM Author: trip university Lucky for him he has a common name so he could probably move to, say, Seattle and start over. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466272) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 10:54 PM Author: vigorous bonkers preventive strike Not just common, the first google results will always be for the notorious wife killer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466302) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:01 PM Author: Walnut Bipolar Masturbator i made this point last week in a thread about how "schools already have armed guards." this story didn't even exist then.
i said lol at the "security guards" most schools have. they are always older, barney fife cops ticking down days to retirement in what they think is a cush gig.
one of those bumbling aging officers isn't going to do shit in stopping school shootings. they don't do anything to stop petty crimes and the students don't respect them. |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:35 PM Author: free-loading self-absorbed location quadroon Ty. Now asess the ability of 37 yo history teacher shrews in same situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466733) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:45 AM Author: hilarious den rigor Close call. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467564) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:53 AM Author: Walnut Bipolar Masturbator well if the teacher is right there in the room, or across the hall, there's a better chance.
but one bumbling near-retirement cop, in a far part of the building, isn't going to stop anything.
and, btw, i'm undecided if i think teachers should be armed and have gun training requirements. i tend to think most can't handle it.
ideally, schools would have better discipline, not be afraid of the kids and their parent(s) and be afraid of getting sued, and kick these psychos out. you can usually tell which ones are dangerous. hell, this shooter had, what two dozen calls to the sheriff about him and the FBI was notified? |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:30 PM Author: free-loading self-absorbed location quadroon xoTrump: “teachers would be better at this. Give them a snub nose 38 and they’ll shoot the dude with the AK right in the eye.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466693) |
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Date: February 22nd, 2018 11:48 PM Author: adulterous chrome macaca People complain about the militarization of cops and SWAT teams but this is why you need them. Officer friendly can’t do shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35466863) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 1:49 AM Author: gaped new version trump supporter ACAB (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467582) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:12 AM Author: marvelous drunken senate pistol Tbf, I don't think it's "well settled" in the LE community whether a single cop should go in or wait for backup, especially if the shooter has a rifle. It's prob. up to the officer's discretion. I don't know if this particular sheriff dept. had a policy or guideline on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467797) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:46 AM Author: titillating chartreuse feces stage Virtually all mass shooters give up or commit suicide upon the slightest confrontation with police.
The one exception I can think of is the North Hollywood bank shootout. |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 4:18 AM Author: passionate lay mother bank robbers aren't really mass shooters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467917) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:19 AM Author: titillating chartreuse feces stage I agree but I can't really think of any other big incident that didn't quickly reach a conclusion when cops showed any sort of commitment whatsoever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468028) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 3:57 AM Author: exhilarant goyim Sheriff should be arrested for using any warm body (in this case an elderly man) to fill what is supposed to be a serious position
Old guy was Zero-T and shook with fear like any old bitch |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:09 AM Author: laughsome principal's office son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468017) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM Author: Narrow-minded tanning salon yarmulke The “school resource officer” gigs in Florida are where the police/sheriffs push (mostly girls) who can’t handle the street. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35467999) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:03 AM Author: laughsome principal's office son of senegal LOL at the sheriff throwing this guy under the bus. The guard was clearly incompetent and unqualified for the job. This falls at the top. The sheriff acted like a fool on CNN and he's trying to distract everyone from his own incompetence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468004) |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:06 AM Author: laughsome principal's office son of senegal The narcissist sheriff is writing about himself in third person. LOL
https://twitter.com/ScottJIsrael |
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Date: February 23rd, 2018 7:11 AM Author: Elite useless brakes It's even worse if the police department employs a social media manager. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901069&forum_id=2#35468020) |