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Case can still be made that Christopher Columbus is most important person

in 1000 years. Sure, Leif Erikson, some Chinese guy, etc....
concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse
  02/23/18
That’s like saying Steve Jobs invented the iPhone. Too much ...
boyish heaven
  02/23/18
neither CC nor SJ were "figureheads"
concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse
  02/23/18
Lol at faggot libs trying to level all human achievement
bisexual judgmental sandwich property
  02/23/18
Nah I am just a lot more impressed by di Vinci, etc
boyish heaven
  02/23/18
yet you can't even spell his name correctly
jet-lagged sickened travel guidebook
  02/23/18
eh... some other dooder would've come along in the next 50-1...
Very tactful indian lodge gay wizard
  02/23/18
Not sure if it was my lib education but I think of Columbus ...
dark organic girlfriend
  02/23/18
It's your lib education.
beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria
  02/23/18
I quote one of my teachers "The three worst humans i...
dark organic girlfriend
  02/23/18
no love for Mao, dem iron chains even apply to "worst h...
jet-lagged sickened travel guidebook
  02/23/18
That is ridiculous.
beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria
  02/23/18
that's an outrageous thing to say. Columbus's "crime...
concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse
  02/26/18
thats a ridiculous statement. how about pol pot if we're gon...
hairraiser resort
  02/26/18
It's your lib education.
bearded learning disabled stead
  02/23/18
More than anyone else, he is responsible for European world ...
beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria
  02/23/18


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Date: February 23rd, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse

in 1000 years.

Sure, Leif Erikson, some Chinese guy, etc. But CC caught the popular imagination and repeatedly demonstrated that people could safely and routinely cross oceans to other continents.

Populations of humans, animals and plants that evolved separately for a hundred thousand years were suddenly 30 days voyage away. Reading another XO thread about "race realism", I realized once again this is all just the post-script to Columbus's work. He sewed together the world in a way that Africans and Asians and Europeans and other could live cheek by jowl, and all of this "history", from slavery to WWII to Trayvon Martin, is all just detritus in the aftermath of his voyage.

He changed earth as much as Jesus. Perhaps you could add Darwin and St. Paul and Alexander to round out the top five, in no particular order.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35468511)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: boyish heaven

That’s like saying Steve Jobs invented the iPhone. Too much credit to a figurehead. Who happened to be an insufferable asshole.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35468747)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse

neither CC nor SJ were "figureheads"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35468938)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: bisexual judgmental sandwich property

Lol at faggot libs trying to level all human achievement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35468965)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: boyish heaven

Nah I am just a lot more impressed by di Vinci, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474310)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: jet-lagged sickened travel guidebook

yet you can't even spell his name correctly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474337)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: Very tactful indian lodge gay wizard

eh... some other dooder would've come along in the next 50-100 years and done the same thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35468960)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: dark organic girlfriend

Not sure if it was my lib education but I think of Columbus as an evil fucking dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474314)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:30 PM
Author: beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria

It's your lib education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474323)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: dark organic girlfriend

I quote one of my teachers

"The three worst humans in history are Hitler, Stalin and Columbus."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474348)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: jet-lagged sickened travel guidebook

no love for Mao, dem iron chains even apply to "worst human" rankings!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474356)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria

That is ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474358)



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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: concupiscible spruce bawdyhouse

that's an outrageous thing to say.

Columbus's "crimes" are that he failed to see natives as deserving of the same rights he would accord to European Christians. Keep in mind there was barely a concept of "rights". There was a struggle for anyone to live past 30 and have children that survive, anywhere on earth. To manage survival, everyone on earth connected their identity to clans and religions and classified everyone else as an enemy.

So indeed, he did nothing to help the survival of natives and to the contrary killed and enslaved thousands of them, often personally.

But very few people alive then saw anything wrong with this. The very few that did were animated by a Christian theology that was super rare for the time. The natives themselves saw nothing wrong with enslaving and killing rival groups of people. No reason to think Columbus was more "evil", even by today's human rights standard, than any native tribal leader in Hispaniola.

In his plus column, he -- like Elon Musk -- risked his fortune and even his life on a dangerous dream to try to do things differently. He forged a path for starving and oppressed Europeans, who faced no future in Europe, to come to a dangerous, sparsely populated continent to try to build something better. We are all recipients of that, even if our ancestors were African slaves.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35490166)



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Date: February 26th, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: hairraiser resort

thats a ridiculous statement. how about pol pot if we're gonna use politicians?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35490174)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:32 PM
Author: bearded learning disabled stead

It's your lib education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474335)



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Date: February 23rd, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: beady-eyed weed whacker school cafeteria

More than anyone else, he is responsible for European world dominance.

That's why libs hate him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3901454&forum_id=2#35474372)