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ODD CASE: How does Cleveland have one of the best hospitals and orchestras?

isn’t it a random cold shithole town without a lot of resour...
Yellow contagious yarmulke
  02/25/18
odd case
Beady-eyed thirsty circlehead persian
  02/25/18
And basketball players
House-broken medicated native
  02/25/18
and tv shows by now-price-is-right-hosts
Beady-eyed thirsty circlehead persian
  02/25/18
See also Rochester, MN.
Chocolate idea he suggested patrolman
  02/25/18
major sim glitch
jade philosopher-king
  02/25/18
Inertia from when Cleveland was a T5 US city. Also I believe...
lemon hyperactive pit
  02/25/18
it was a T5 city? Dat inertia didn’t work for St. Louis.
Yellow contagious yarmulke
  02/25/18
WUSTL is T5 med school. Not sure about the orchestra
copper spot
  03/06/18
And Cleveland also has some major top medical infrastructure...
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
It was a major industrial and commercial center, just like D...
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
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Mauve Crackhouse
  03/06/18
it has museums too. its not random. america got its nice ...
wild irradiated den
  02/25/18
mo money fo dem programs
Arousing awkward stock car
  02/25/18
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_library vs. pre...
wild irradiated den
  02/25/18
lol at these fucking clowns
Balding Greedy Step-uncle's House
  03/06/18
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Fragrant walnut corn cake
  03/06/18
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poppy tantric center
  03/06/18
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Provocative Mother Sound Barrier
  03/06/18
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scarlet stage
  03/06/18
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Soggy Big Affirmative Action State
  03/06/18
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Fantasy-prone abode haunted graveyard
  03/06/18
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Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
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Balding Greedy Step-uncle's House
  03/06/18
Cleveland is a top 10 city
Cream flirting point turdskin
  03/06/18
It still was about 40 years ago
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
It still is
Cream flirting point turdskin
  03/06/18
Only in my heart :(
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
...
Mauve Crackhouse
  03/06/18
Endowments
Vibrant Fishy Toaster Site
  03/06/18
Gas yourself
up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle parlour immigrant
  03/06/18
The bit of history you all are missing is why the money left...
Orchid Rambunctious House
  03/06/18
It was due to forced-integration public schools busing. Ther...
up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle parlour immigrant
  03/06/18
Wealthy people don’t send their kids to public schools.
Orchid Rambunctious House
  03/06/18
No but the former MC and UMC in Cleveland did. It was a soli...
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
Correct. I experienced the start of this but before it had r...
Alcoholic mustard church double fault
  03/06/18
The rust belt had (and has, to an extent) a lot of nice thin...
Transparent Territorial Boiling Water Dopamine
  03/06/18
lake/river cities used to rake in the wealth. consider that...
Red range
  03/06/18


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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:24 AM
Author: Yellow contagious yarmulke

isn’t it a random cold shithole town without a lot of resources that somehow has one of the world’s best medical centers and symphony orchestras?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483026)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:25 AM
Author: Beady-eyed thirsty circlehead persian

odd case

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483027)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: House-broken medicated native

And basketball players

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483029)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Beady-eyed thirsty circlehead persian

and tv shows by now-price-is-right-hosts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483033)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Chocolate idea he suggested patrolman

See also Rochester, MN.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483035)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: jade philosopher-king

major sim glitch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483038)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: lemon hyperactive pit

Inertia from when Cleveland was a T5 US city. Also I believe the Cleveland Orchestra had a super-dynamic conductor for decades who really forged it into a musical great power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483045)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Yellow contagious yarmulke

it was a T5 city? Dat inertia didn’t work for St. Louis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483068)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: copper spot

WUSTL is T5 med school. Not sure about the orchestra

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549814)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:35 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

And Cleveland also has some major top medical infrastructure. It’s just that the industry died, and with it, middle class life and much of the city.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549834)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

It was a major industrial and commercial center, just like Detroit and St Louis were. Some serious old money then to pay for all the museums etc. Jones Day is still a proud “Cleveland firm”, even though it doesn’t do that much in Cleveland anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549828)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: Mauve Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550618)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: wild irradiated den

it has museums too.

its not random. america got its nice things in the robber baron philanthropy age when Cleveland was not just an unimportant shithole.

now: gates and zuckerberg throwing money at chimps from newark to the congo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483046)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Arousing awkward stock car

mo money fo dem programs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483241)



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Date: February 25th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: wild irradiated den

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnegie_library

vs.

previous decade, the foundations of Microsoft’s Bill Gates, the California real-estate and insurance magnate Eli Broad, the Walton family (of the Walmart fortune), and other billionaires from Wall Street to Silicon Valley had come to dominate charitable funding to education. Dubbed “venture philanthropists,” they called themselves investors rather than donors and sought returns in the form of sweeping changes to public schooling. In addition to financing the expansion of charter schools, they helped finance Teach for America and the development of the Common Core State Standards to increase the rigor of instruction.

Sheryl Sandberg, who vetted the agreement for Zuckerberg, e-mailed updates to Booker’s chief fund-raiser, Bari Mattes: “Mark is following up with Gates this week. I will call David Einhorn”—a hedge-fund manager—“this week (my cousin). Mark is scheduling dinner with Broad. . . . amazing if Oprah will donate herself? Will she? I am following up with John Doerr/NewSchools Venture Fund.” Doerr is a venture capitalist.

On September 24, 2010, the team described their plan for Newark on “Oprah.” “So, Mr. Zuckerberg,” Oprah asked, “what role are you playing in all of this?” He replied, “I’ve committed to starting the Startup:Education Foundation, whose first project will be a one-hundred-million-dollar challenge grant.” Winfrey interrupted: “One. Hundred. Million. Dollars?” The audience delivered a standing ovation. When Winfrey asked Zuckerberg why he’d chosen Newark, he gestured toward Booker and Christie and said, “Newark is really just because I believe in these guys. . . . We’re setting up a one-hundred-million-dollar challenge grant so that Mayor Booker and Governor Christie can have the flexibility they need to . . . turn Newark into a symbol of educational excellence for the whole nation.”

jfc



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35483424)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Balding Greedy Step-uncle's House

lol at these fucking clowns

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549889)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 9:17 PM
Author: Fragrant walnut corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550097)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: poppy tantric center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550629)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:44 PM
Author: Provocative Mother Sound Barrier



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550649)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: scarlet stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550681)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:55 PM
Author: Soggy Big Affirmative Action State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550737)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:26 PM
Author: Fantasy-prone abode haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549771)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549848)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Balding Greedy Step-uncle's House



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549882)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:34 PM
Author: Cream flirting point turdskin

Cleveland is a top 10 city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549829)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:36 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

It still was about 40 years ago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549839)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:37 PM
Author: Cream flirting point turdskin

It still is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549851)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

Only in my heart :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549856)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: Mauve Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550714)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:38 PM
Author: Vibrant Fishy Toaster Site

Endowments

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549858)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle parlour immigrant

Gas yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35549919)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Orchid Rambunctious House

The bit of history you all are missing is why the money left Cleveland.

The electorate intended to tax the shit out of monied people. They left. End result: rusted out Cleveland if today.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550509)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: up-to-no-good razzle-dazzle parlour immigrant

It was due to forced-integration public schools busing. There are a lot of cases of urban wealth enduring high taxes. Fewer of the middle class throwing their children to the wolves.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550609)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Orchid Rambunctious House

Wealthy people don’t send their kids to public schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550624)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

No but the former MC and UMC in Cleveland did. It was a solid system until it got ruined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550635)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: Alcoholic mustard church double fault

Correct. I experienced the start of this but before it had ruined the whole system; a few years later, the formerly strong public system in the suburbs was a wasteland.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550633)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Transparent Territorial Boiling Water Dopamine

The rust belt had (and has, to an extent) a lot of nice things. Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Detroit all have amazing houses and buildings. In the era before material taxes, the wealthy used their money to hel their communities (which included their employees) and places like the Cleveland Clinic and Rosewell Park (Buffalo) (Hopkins, Mayo the same) were founded early by donors and have continued on their reputation to this day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550662)



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Date: March 6th, 2018 10:56 PM
Author: Red range

lake/river cities used to rake in the wealth. consider that even toledo has a top-notch art museum built with money from the glass industry, which was viable in toledo because the finished products could be shipped in bulk by water back to the east coast and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3903493&forum_id=2#35550750)