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statistics and studies that demonstrate we're all doomed?

a study that utilizes some combo of skyrocketing suicide rat...
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swashbuckling nighttime base
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lmao this is why i love this bort
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i have a bunch of agglomerated bits and pieces to explain my...
swashbuckling nighttime base
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Black holes are forming and growing at a faster rate than st...
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100% of people who lived before us are dead.
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there's the "white death" research by case and dea...
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so when when my gf asks "why do you feel this way babe&...
swashbuckling nighttime base
  02/28/18
we're kind of dealing with metaphysics anyway. the fundamen...
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Yes, the way you regain purpose is to intensively study what...
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haha i can relate to this lol *fantasizes some more about...
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  02/28/18
don't do it
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Dude get out of your head. Lots of fun things to distract yo...
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Sorry bro -- but data is not on your side. You are tryin...
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  02/28/18
elaborate
swashbuckling nighttime base
  02/28/18
the US in the past few years has seen falling life expectanc...
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  02/28/18
in the past few years in the past few years in the past few ...
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why? the trends we're talking about are fairly recent (cert...
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you would also expect noise, from which you can't distinguis...
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facebook was created in 2004
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Ok Shmuel
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????
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https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_...
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The world has always existed in a doomed state, it just beco...
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180. America fucking sucks.
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Date: February 28th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

a study that utilizes some combo of skyrocketing suicide rates, increasing technology and social media adoption, shuttering of small-town communities, labor force participation, fewer friends and confidants, etc. to show we're in a real social/spiritual/whatever crisis and are en route to a brave new world scenario or something that spells the end of our innate humanity as we all become wards of the state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35506812)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: cracking primrose striped hyena

lmao

this is why i love this bort

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35507705)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

i have a bunch of agglomerated bits and pieces to explain my dread, i need something coherent so i don't sound like a nut

maybe i am a nut, maybe we're all nuts and the world is actually great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508106)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: Domesticated chrome goal in life fat ankles

Black holes are forming and growing at a faster rate than stars

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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:51 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

(scared proton)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35509952)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Marvelous erotic cuckoldry



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: stubborn alcoholic water buffalo nursing home

100% of people who lived before us are dead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508120)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: hairraiser locale stock car

there's the "white death" research by case and deaton at princeton, though it focuses more on drug-driven mortality. the kind of research you're talking about would be difficult for academics to do in the US, because it would end up portraying whites as victims, and that is contrary to the official narrative. i'm not being sarcastic when i say that - if you were to craft a research proposal which had some significant nexus with "white malaise," the grant committee would probably veto it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508185)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

so when when my gf asks "why do you feel this way babe" all i can do is send her breitbart and zerohedge articles written by NEETs then, fuck

you're probably right, but i don't understand why some sympathetic rich dude like thiel or something wouldn't think "maybe i should sponsor/fund some research on this shit"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508233)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: hairraiser locale stock car

we're kind of dealing with metaphysics anyway. the fundamental source of a lot of this stuff is loss of purpose, which requires an examination of what "purpose" actually IS, and how it arises in human society to begin with. that leads to themes like cohesion and community, and so on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508253)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Adventurous sable address travel guidebook

Yes, the way you regain purpose is to intensively study what purpose is...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35511085)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: Cordovan center half-breed

haha i can relate to this lol

*fantasizes some more about hanging self*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508269)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

don't do it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508434)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: fear-inspiring glittery dragon forum



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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Carnelian box office genital piercing

Dude get out of your head. Lots of fun things to distract yourself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35511109)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Vengeful fragrant fortuitous meteor church building

Sorry bro -- but data is not on your side.

You are trying to project your mental illness on the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508261)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

elaborate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508266)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: hairraiser locale stock car

the US in the past few years has seen falling life expectancy, falling birth-rates, and rising death-rates, along with a rising murder rate and rising traffic fatality rate. those aren't the signs of a healthy society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508268)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: Vengeful fragrant fortuitous meteor church building

in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years in the past few years

Look at a longer timeline sir.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508348)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: hairraiser locale stock car

why? the trends we're talking about are fairly recent (certainly their intensification is recent), so we would expect them to be reflected statistically in recent years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508396)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Razzle lilac rigpig

you would also expect noise, from which you can't distinguish your "trend"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926525)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

facebook was created in 2004

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508425)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Cordovan center half-breed

Ok Shmuel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508278)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Amber mad cow disease



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Date: February 28th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: Carnelian box office genital piercing



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: Salmon aphrodisiac hunting ground faggotry



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: rusted deep point preventive strike

Actually all of the data is optimistic for your typical (xo poa. The sort of crises you are talking about are just a result of normal people not being able to cope with the world and technology moving in a more blunt and lonely direction. The future is isolation. The future is autism. The future is the poaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508452)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 5:26 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base

????

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35508628)



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Date: February 28th, 2018 11:27 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35511065)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: swashbuckling nighttime base



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926100)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: lake exhilarant boiling water coldplay fan

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Industrial_Society_and_Its_Future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926228)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: naked mother really tough guy

The world has always existed in a doomed state, it just becomes more obvious as knowledge accrues. Then it becomes too much for human consciousness to bear and a new Dark Age is the only thing that can “save” us. This cycle will continue until we are extinct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926260)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: Carnelian box office genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926544)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: titillating trust fund

http://georgescialabba.net/mtgs/2012/05/decline-and-fall.html

Here is a sample of factlets from surveys and studies conducted in the past twenty years. Seventy percent of Americans believe in the existence of angels. Fifty percent believe that the earth has been visited by UFOs; in another poll, seventy percent believed that the US government is covering up the presence of space aliens on earth. Forty percent did not know whom the US fought in World War II. Forty percent could not locate Japan on a world map. Fifteen percent could not locate the United States on a world map. Sixty percent of Americans have not read a book since leaving school. Only six percent now read even one book a year. According to a very familiar statistic that nonetheless cannot be repeated too often, the average American's day includes six minutes playing sports, five minutes reading books, one minute making music, thirty seconds attending a play or concert, twenty-five seconds making or viewing art, and four hours watching television.

Among high-school seniors surveyed in the late 1990s, fifty percent had not heard of the Cold War. Sixty percent could not say how the United States came into existence. Fifty percent did not know in which century the Civil War occurred. Sixty percent could name each of the Three Stooges but not the three branches of the US government. Sixty percent could not comprehend an editorial in a national or local newspaper.

Intellectual distinction isn't everything, it's true. But things are amiss in other areas as well: sociability and trust, for example. "During the last third of the twentieth century," according to Robert Putnam in Bowling Alone, "all forms of social capital fell off precipitously." Tens of thousands of community groups - church social and charitable groups, union halls, civic clubs, bridge clubs, and yes, bowling leagues - disappeared; by Putnam's estimate, one-third of our social infrastructure vanished in these years. Frequency of having friends to dinner dropped by 45 percent; card parties declined 50 percent; Americans' declared readiness to make new friends declined by 30 percent. Belief that most other people could be trusted dropped from 77 percent to 37 percent. Over a five-year period in the 1990s, reported incidents of aggressive driving rose by 50 percent - admittedly an odd, but probably not an insignificant, indicator of declining social capital.

Still, even if American education is spotty and the social fabric is fraying, the fact that the US is the world's richest nation must surely make a great difference to our quality of life? Alas, no. As every literate person knows, economic inequality in the United States is off the charts - at Third World levels. The results were recently summarized by James Speth in Orion magazine. Of the twenty advanced democracies in the OECD (Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development), the US has the highest poverty rate, for both adults and children; the lowest rate of social mobility; the lowest score on UN indexes of child welfare and gender inequality; the highest ratio of health care expenditure to GDP, combined with the lowest life expectancy and the highest rates of infant mortality, mental illness, obesity, inability to afford health care, and personal bankruptcy resulting from medical expenses; the highest homicide rate; and the highest incarceration rate. Nor are the baneful effects of America's social and economic order confined within our borders; among OECD nations the US also has the highest carbon dioxide emissions, the highest per capita water consumption, the next-to-largest ecological footprint, the next-to-lowest score on the Yale Environmental Performance Index, the highest (by a colossal margin) per capita rate of military spending and arms sales, and the next-to-lowest rate of per capita spending on international development and humanitarian assistance.

Contemplating these dreary statistics, one might well conclude that the United States is, to a distressing extent, a nation of violent, intolerant, ignorant, superstitious, apathetic, shallow, boorish, selfish, unhealthy, unhappy people, addicted to flickering screens, incurious about other societies and cultures, unwilling or unable to assert or even comprehend their nominal political sovereignty. Or, more simply, that America is a failure. That is indeed what Morris Berman concludes in his three-volume survey of America's decline: The Twilight of American Culture (2000), Dark Ages America (2006), and Why America Failed (2011), from which much of the preceding information is taken. Berman is a cultural and intellectual historian, not a social scientist, so his portrait of American civilization, or barbarism, is anecdotal and atmospheric as well as statistical. He is eloquent about harder-to-quantify trends: the transformation of higher (even primary/secondary) education into marketing arenas for predatory corporations; the new form of educational merchandising known as "distance learning"; the colonization of civic and cultural spaces by corporate logos; the centrality of malls and shopping to our social life; the "systematic suppression of silence" and the fact that "there is barely an empty space in our culture not already carrying commercial messages." Idiot deans, rancid rappers, endlessly chattering sports commentators, an avalanche of half-inch-deep self-help manuals; a plague of gadgets, a deluge of stimuli, an epidemic of rudeness, a desert of mutual indifference: the upshot is our daily immersion in a suffocating stream of kitsch, blather, stress, and sentimental banality. Berman colorfully and convincingly renders the relentless coarsening and dumbing down of everyday life in late (dare we hope?) American capitalism.

In Spenglerian fashion, Berman seeks the source of our civilization's decline in its innermost principle, its animating Geist. What he finds at the bottom of our culture's soul is ... hustling; or, to use its respectable academic sobriquet, possessive individualism. Expansion, accumulation, economic growth: this is the ground bass of American history, like the hum of a dynamo in the basement beneath the polite twitterings on the upper stories about "liberty" and "a light unto the nations." Berman scarcely mentions Marx or historical materialism; instead he offers a non-specialist and accessible but deeply informed and amply documented review of American history, period by period, war by war, arguing persuasively that whatever the ideological superstructure, the driving energy behind policy and popular aspiration has been a ceaseless, soulless acquisitiveness.

The Colonial period, the seedbed of American democracy, certainly featured a good deal of God-talk and virtue-talk, but Mammon more than held its own. Berman sides emphatically with Louis Hartz, who famously argued in The Liberal Tradition in America that American society was essentially Lockean from the beginning: individualistic, ambitious, protocapitalist, with a weak and subordinate communitarian ethic. He finds plenty of support elsewhere as well; for example in Perry Miller, the foremost historian of Puritanism, according to whom the American mind has always "positively lusted for the chance to yield itself to the gratification of technology." Even Tocqueville, who made many similar observations, "could not comprehend," wrote Miller, "the passion with which [early Americans] flung themselves into the technological torrent, how they ... cried to each other as they went headlong down the chute that here was their destiny, here was the tide that would sweep them toward the unending vistas of prosperity." Even Emerson and Whitman went through a phase of infatuation with industrial progress, though Hawthorne and Thoreau apparently always looked on the juggernaut with clearer (or more jaundiced) eyes.

Berman also sides, for the most part, with Charles Beard, who drew attention to the economic conflicts underlying the American Revolution and the Civil War. Beard may have undervalued the genuine intellectual ferment that accompanied the Revolution, but he was not wrong in perceiving the motivating force of the pervasive commercial ethic of the age. Joyce Appleby, another eminent historian, poses this question to those who idealize America's founding: "If the Revolution was fought in a frenzy over corruption, out of fear of tyranny, and with hopes for redemption through civic virtue, where and when are scholars to find the sources for the aggressive individualism, the optimistic materialism, and the pragmatic interest-group politics that became so salient so early in the life of the nation?"

By the mid-nineteenth century, the predominance of commercial interests in American politics was unmistakable. Berman's lengthy discussion of the Civil War as the pivot of American history takes for granted the inadequacy of triumphalist views of the Civil War. It was not a "battle cry of freedom." Slavery was central, but for economic rather than moral reasons. The North represented economic modernity and the ethos of material progress; the economy and ethos of the South, based on slavery, was premodern and static. The West - and with it the shape of America's economic future - was up for grabs, and the North grabbed it away from an equally determined South. Except for the abolitionists, no whites, North or South, gave a damn about blacks. How the West (like the North and South before it) was grabbed, in an orgy of greed, violence, and deceit against the original inhabitants, is a familiar story.

Even more than in Beard, Berman finds his inspiration in William Appleman Williams, the most influential proponent of the view that American domestic and foreign policy are expressions of the same expansionist impulse. When McKinley's secretary of state John Hay advocated "an open door through which America's preponderant economic strength would enter and dominate all underdeveloped areas of the world" and his successor William Jennings Bryan (the celebrated populist and anti-imperialist!) told a gathering of businessmen in 1915 that "my Department is your department; the ambassadors, the ministers, the consuls are all yours; it is their business to look after your interests and to guard your rights," they were enunciating the soul of American foreign policy, as was the much-lauded Wise Man George Kennan when he wrote in a post-World War II State Department policy planning document: "We have about 50% of the world's wealth, but only 6.3% of its population. ... In this situation, we cannot fail to be the object of envy and resentment. Our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will permit us to maintain this position of disparity. ... To do so, we will have to dispense with all sentimentality and day-dreaming; and our attention will have to be concentrated everywhere on our immediate national objectives. ... We should cease to talk about vague and ... unreal objectives such as human rights, the raising of the living standards, and democratization. The day is not far off when we are going to have to deal in straight power concepts. The less we are then hampered by idealistic slogans, the better."

As a former medievalist, Berman finds contemporary parallels to the fall of Rome compelling. By the end of the Empire, he points out, economic inequality was drastic and increasing, the legitimacy and efficacy of the state was waning, popular culture was debased, civic virtue among elites was practically non-existent, and imperial military commitments were hopelessly unsustainable. As these volumes abundantly illustrate, this is 21st-century America in a nutshell. The capstone of Berman's demonstration is a sequence of three long, brilliant chapters in Dark Ages America on the Cold War, the Pax Americana, CIA and military interventions in the Third World, and in particular US policy in the Middle East, where racism and rapacity have combined to produce a stunning debacle. Our hysterical national response to 9/11 - our inability even to make an effort to comprehend the long-festering consequences of our imperial predations - portended, as clearly as anything could, the demise of American global supremacy.

What will become of us? After Rome's fall, wolves wandered through the cities and Europe largely went to sleep for six centuries. That will not happen again; too many transitions - demographic, ecological, technological, cybernetic - have intervened. The planet's metabolism has altered. The new Dark Ages will be socially, politically, and spiritually dark, but the economic Moloch - mass production and consumption, destructive growth, instrumental rationality - will not disappear. Few Americans want it to. We are hollow, Berman concludes. It is a devastatingly plausible conclusion.

An interval - long or short, only the gods can say - of oligarchic, intensely surveilled, bread-and-circuses authoritarianism, Blade Runner- or Fahrenheit 451-style, seems the most likely outlook for the 21st and 22nd centuries. Still, if most humans are shallow and conformist, some are not. There is reason to hope that the ever-fragile but somehow perennial traditions and virtues of solidarity, curiosity, self-reliance, courtesy, voluntary simplicity, and an instinct for beauty will survive, even if underground for long periods. And cultural rebirths do occur, or at any rate have occurred.

Berman offers little comfort, but he does note a possible role for those who perceive the inevitability of our civilization's decline. He calls it the "monastic option." Our eclipse may, after all, not be permanent; and meanwhile individuals and small groups may preserve the best of our culture by living against the grain, within the interstices, by "creating 'zones of intelligence' in a private, local way, and then deliberately keeping them out of the public eye." Even if one's ideals ultimately perish, this may be the best way to live while they are dying.

There is something immensely refreshing, even cathartic, about Berman's refusal to hold out any hope of avoiding our civilization's demise. And our reaction goes some way toward proving his point: we are so sick of hucksters, of authors trying - like everyone else on all sides at all times in this pervasively hustling culture - to sell us something, that it is a relief to encounter someone who isn't, who has no designs on our money or votes or hopes, who simply has looked into the depths, into our bleak future, and is compelled to describe it, as Cassandra was. No doubt his efforts will meet with equal success.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926547)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: naked mother really tough guy

180. America fucking sucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3906465&forum_id=2#35926650)



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Date: April 26th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: 180 codepig bawdyhouse



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