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Can we explore the difference between individual Jews and (((international Jewry
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Excitant piazza Adios America made the point in the bigger thread, but it’s very important and should be explored more.
I frequently struggle to reconcile being red pilled on Jewish deception, and seeing how they operate, with really liking individual Jews + acknowledging that Jews are behind many great advances in society and technological innovations.
Actual Nazis take it way too far, and just want to get rid of all Jews. This is wrong for a number of reasons. Not only is this throwing the baby out with the bathwater (not to mention targeting perfectly innocent people), you’d make society worse if you actually accomplished this. For example, there would be no XO. No Steven Miller. You could create a very long list of great things that Jews have done that just would never have happened if the Nazis had their way. Plus, the Jewish individuals you like IRL would be gone. This just cannot be any kind of acceptable solution.
However, Jewish deception and subversion of their host society is undeniable. There is a reason Jews have been thrown out of every country they’ve ever resided in throughout world history. You can read depictions from pre WWII Germany about how Jews controlled the media and banking system, and that stuff might as well been written today. It is obviously part of the Jewish nature for them to gravitate towards these engines that power society, and use a combination of high IQ + extreme clannish behavior and deception to ultimately control them.
Also, that Hitler quote about how Jews tend to argue cannot be more accurate. It’s insane.
So, how can one reconcile these two beliefs? Adios America said it’s conplicated, which it certainly is. I’m hoping people here can really get into it. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage if the country wasn't dominated by Jews then we wouldn't need Stephen Miller. he is important now because in the current environment it's difficult for a white guy with views like his to reach positions of influence (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568894) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Glittery Peach Circlehead University [ignores goy president who made Mr. Miller what he is] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570093) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:51 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Jesus Christ, just treat people on their individual merit. Is that so fucking hard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569804) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza because you can't create optimal social policy by ignoring differences between groups. for blacks, for example: either their lower incomes and poorer life outcomes is due to societal racism, OR its due to lower IQ and higher aggression on AVERAGE compared to other groups. or it could be both.
you don't address these issues by burying your head in sand over it. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action So...how is that responsive? How does that conflict with my suggestion that people be treated on their individual merits? Smart blacks with good character get treated like smart people with good character. Dumb whites with poor character get treated like dumb people with poor character.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza Lawman isn't asking about how to treat people on a 1 on 1 basis; he's asking how to create social policy based on group characteristics while still protecting the rights of individuals who don't adhere to the characteristics of those groups. At least that's how I read it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569964) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I think different social policies for different ethnic/racial/political groups is bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570056) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage thanks, asher (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570067) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action No prob, colton (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570073) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza Then you're against AA; you're against busing blacks to white schools; you're against housing projects; you're against emergency care for people without insurance (disproportionately affects minorities); you're against illegal immigrants (disproportionately affects Hispanics); you're against keeping out radical Muslims from the United States; you're against favoring white western countries over other countries. I could go on and on.
There's no way you're getting around group social policies, friend, whether explicit or implicit, whether you like it or not.
You really do seem to have your head in the sand. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570072) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I am against AA. That should be fucking obvious.
I am not against policies simply because they have disparate impacts.
If you think the "fair" thing is to create legal/social policies that "target" people based on their political opinions, I think you suck and are a danger to American values.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza Yes, I believe America is great because it is majority white Christian. White Christian countries are widely regarded as the greatest on earth - United States, Canada, France, UK, Germany, Scandinavia, etc. If you don't want to use your eyes because it's racist, feel free to do so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570110) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570119) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action See, I believe America is greater than those other countries because we don't allow the government to target/prohibit certain political ideologies.
But enjoy your hate speech laws, Nigel! |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza lol, demographics is destiny. Laws are on paper only and easily changed. If you can't see that by now there's no hope for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570159) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Cheerio! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570161) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570516) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:44 PM Author: Excitant piazza Your belief is misguided, and America is in a bad state today precisely because liberalism was allowed to remain unchecked for so long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570191) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Your problem, as I see it, is that you are a mirror image of the SJW left.
Replace "jews" with "white males" and can't you just see it? Focusing on all the bad things that white males as a group have done, while ignoring the positive contributions?
A hyperfocus on the bathwater (the problems of western society) while ignoring the importance of the baby (the amazing benefits of western society) is the greatest problem of liberalism/progressivism today. At least you recognize it as a potential problem, though I think you're all too willing to consider a counter-SJW purge. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Excitant piazza I don’t think your comparison of Jews and white males is accurate.
For one thing, Jews were exiled from every country they’ve resided in over hundreds or thousands of years. Not white males. That alone should tell you something.
More importantly, Jews have power/wealth/influence VASTLY disproportionate to their numbers. Look at America for example.
Jews are only 2% of the population, yet EASILY are at least 50% of media senior executives. I’m being super conservative here, and the real number is probably closer to 80%. And I doubt they’d allow for the stats to ever be published, but I’d estimate the 2% of Jews control more than 40% of American wealth.
There’s just absolutely no comparison to the outsized influence of white males, whether here or globally.
Also, I didn’t ignore their positive contributions. I specifically cite them as one reason the actual Nazis are wrong. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action " Jews were exiled from every country they’ve resided in over hundreds or thousands of years. Not white males. That alone should tell you something. "
That's not actually true, but whatevs. I think colonialism provides an apt comparison. White colonial powers have been exiled from nearly all their colonies during the colonial age. Does that mean we should all acknowledge the great menace of white people?
I'm not saying it's no big deal to have a small minority group with huge disproportionate power (including over banking, media, politics, etc.) But just like XOers like to say women should start their own tech companies if they want to have more power in tech, I think just pointing out disproportionate results means that Jews are somehow a cancer on society moreso than other groups with disproportionate power (e.g., white men).
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Excitant piazza Whites were not exiled from their colonies. In many instances, they voluntarily left. Singapore being one of many examples.
Not to mention the crucial differences that in some instances, colonialism seems to have been better for the country than independence. South Africa being a great example. Hardly support for the statement that whites were a bad force.
I’m not sure what you mean by your last paragraph. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action And you refuse to acknowledge the possibility that Jews may have had some beneficial effect on the countries they inhabited?
My point is not to argue with you about whether Jews or whites are good or bad, but whether the arguments you are using against Jews as a group are the same flawed arguments a lot of SJW lefties use against whites as a group, or "whiteness."
If people are acting like assholes, then call them out on their assholishness, not on their ethnicity/religion.
That doesn't mean ethnicity/religion is some forbidden topic of conversation. I mean, look where we're poasting. But you are acting like some "woke" BLM activist dedicated to answering the problem with whiteness. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Excitant piazza Why do you keep claiming I’m not saying anything positive about Jews?
I’ve already said that they are responsible for many good things (likely due to their higher IQs).
But the bad is undeniable, and it is part of their nature, since it’s been consistent for centuries. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action "Why do you keep claiming I’m not saying anything positive about Jews? "
You distinguished white colonialism on the grounds that it benefitted the colonized. That sort of implies that Jewish residency in a country didn't/doesn't benefit that country, no?
I dont buy the "part of their nature" part, for lots of reasons. In some instances, I *do* buy that some negative characteristics are part of some Jewish cultures. But that is subject to change. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Excitant piazza It’s absolutely part of their nature, engrained from thousands of years, and for this reason, likely cannot be changed. This poast explains it well:
And I guess for the first part, I’m arguing that their influence is a net negative for society overall, and this is why they’ve always been exiled. I never really thought that to be the case here, but have changed my mind after seeing them lead the charge for open borders, increased third world and Muslim immigration, gun confiscation, hate speech exceptions, and Marxism and socialism. If they get their way, it will absolutely destroy our future. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: violent mental disorder I dunno. Seems like mostly good stuff to me. You're just bitter and ungrateful. That's how you come off at least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570683) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Excitant piazza You just take your opinion of my dynamic with Exeunt and project it across all issues having to do with me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570756) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:01 PM Author: violent mental disorder my post wasn't totally serious which I acknowledge was not toally clear. i've enjoyed your exeunt feud as i enjoy all board feuds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570835) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage What do Jews do with their power though?
Should we point out the over representation among communists, feminists, atheists, third world immigrant advocates, gay/tranny right advocates, virtually all trash culture (Jerry Springer, Howard Stern, rap music, pornography), neoconservatives, the militant anti-white movement
You know where they're not over represented? Among traditionalists and nationalists. If anyone believes that traditional values and love for the country is the only way to prevent the further decline of the United States then they'll inevitably find that every force opposing them is founded or substantially populated by Jews.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Again, why is it better to focus on the Jewishness, than on the things that you actually mention? There are lots of men that are murderers, but I find it more useful to focus on murderers than on men. Why focus on the 7:10 correlation when you can focus on the 1:1 correlation?
There are/were a disproportionate amount of Jews who fought for and one the rights of free speech that allow you and lawman8 and everyone on this board to say the things we want without fear of criminal penalty. Does that mean we should view other, different Jews positively for that? No. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage They are BREATHTAKINGLY over represented among filthy aspects of society. Does that tell you nothing? 2% of the population buddy. I think we can safely conclude that there's something innately deficient and destructive about them. But you're a Jew so you'll refuse reasonable concessions and continue going around in circles here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570725) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Are science, law, medicine, finance, academia, music, television and film production and psychology filthy or am I missing something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570741) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage Think of any filthy song, movie, book television show you've seen. Jews wrote, produced, or directed all of them.
Academia? Yup thousands of clones of this guy. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noel_Ignatiev
Finance? Lol yup. No one would argue that the societal impact of international finance is anything but positive
Dominant Jews in every industry use their influence and money to aggressively push their anti-white Israel-first agenda
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I think you will also find Jews disproportionately represented and influential in whatever social sectors you find beneficial.
Jews are not just promoters of pop stars, but performers of great classical music, for example.
It's real fucking easy to trash an entire ethnic group when you're only looking for the bad stuff. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage It shouldn't be this easy to point out so many negatives of a group that comprises such a tiny percentage of the population you dumb disingenuous faggot. There are way more asians and indians and I can't think of nearly as many negative examples.
And there are barely any jewish American nationalists |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action If a small group is very successful/prominent at *everything*, they will inevitably be very successful/prominent at *bad* things.
That doesn't mean the small group is any worse than any other group.
If you're the pumo that thinks I'm a Jew, then you can count me as "Jewish" nationalist.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage with few exceptions they're only prominent among the "bad" things and it's remarkable really. that's the problem. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571236) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I think that's a huge load of bullshit, but if you'd like to back it up, I'm interested.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:23 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage can you just name for me a few aspects of modern American society that you find destructive or dysfunctional (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571434) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Sure.
Identity politics and promotion of cultural fragmentation, promotion of ideological orthodoxy and intolerance of dissenting cultural/political opinions, increasing economic/cultural power in the hands of governmental regulators/agencies, lack of respect for traditional virtues like honesty and fidelity.
Can you do the same for things you find positive? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage ok well to start with identity politics, that was invented by jews. you can try to argue that wasps would've developed the concept on their own without jewish influence but try doing that with a straight face ljl
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:41 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action So, you're not willing to do what I asked of you (and what I did for you)?
In any event, I think my point went completely over your head. I do not dispute that there are lots of Jews prominent in "bad" aspects of society.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:48 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage in many cases they invented the "bad" aspects. it's not just that jews are disproportionately represented among these causes, they wouldn't exist without them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571639) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:50 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Usually, when people who aren't assholes have conversations, they are willing to do for the other side what the other side has done for them. But I guess you're just an asshole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571653) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage I can't think of many positive aspects of modern American society at all.
Now reply to my previous comment and answer this
Can you think of any social movements or jewish led causes that have positively impacted the country? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Ok, if you really hate America that much, and can't think of any positive aspects of American society, then I don't think you are sufficiently perceptive to have a thoughtful conversation with (or are just disingenuous).
In any event, I'd say the pursuit of a strong First Amendment and free speech rights are a social movement with a lot of prominent Jewish involvement that has benefitted the country (and keeps everyone on XO from facing legal problems). |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage ok free speech. the Constitution wasn't written by jews but ok I'll let you have it. is that all you you've got?
i'm not sure that outweighs all of the "bad" movements that jews have indisputably invented & led. it doesn't support your claim the their equally represented among the positive and negative sides of society. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:14 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Really? You couldn't come up with a single positive aspect of American culture and you're asking me if "that's all I've got?"
No, it's not. But I don't think you're interested (or able?) to have an honest and thoughtful conversation here.
Feel free to get the last word in.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:18 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage Just name a couple, come on. I can name negative movements chock full of Jews all day long. You've got nothing?
Or leave if you want. You've posted obsessively in this thread for hours but I'm sure you're only leaving now because you're afraid we won't have an honest conversation. It's definitely not because you can't answer me. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:08 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35572131) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage ljl at jews lecturing about "american values" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570115) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Yes, obviously anyone who isn't a full-blown anti-semite devoted to pondering the "JQ" must be a jew.
It only makes sense, right?
*blank stare* |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage aren't you more than 30% kike (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570509) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Barely. I and everyone in my family, including my kids, have been baptized, and as best I can remember, I've never been inside a synagogue (although I can't vouch for that 100%). The notion that I'm a Jew is pretty ridiculous. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570538) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage You're a Jew. Plenty of these kikes have never been to a synagogue but they're just as destructive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570748) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Lol.
I'm actually pretty sympathetic to the Jews for Jesus folks, but it's not a very popular opinion that Jews and Christians are one and the same.
In any event, where do I go to pick up my gold? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: Hideous gaming laptop It's like nigs. Some may be OK people, but it doesn't matter. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571106) |
Date: March 9th, 2018 10:48 AM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich stopped at baby with the bathwater.
if you think incubating precious jews is the essential task of society then you are begging the jq |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568847) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:48 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut So what about all the people in these positions across the world who aren't Jews? How could a group that consists of like 14 million people worldwide have so much influence on 3 billion combined Christians and Muslims? Like for example, Hitler began World War 2 which cause tens of millions of deaths. Was he Lutheran? Is there an International Lutheranism? Why are Jews singled out for all these conspiracy theories? The answer is and has always been anti-Semitism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568748) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:49 AM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich and kikes are and always have been the reason for anti-semitism (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568759) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: geriatric patrolman always (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571681) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: Excitant piazza You are obviously a Jew based on this deceptive answer.
Why do you think Jews have been exiled by every country they’ve resided in throughout world history? It’s all the result of some vast, anti Jewish conspiracy?
These different societies, in different time periods, who largely couldn’t communicate with each other, all independently reached the same conclusion. And you think it’s the result of some crazy conspiracy? Or “anti Semitism?” Do you think anyone seriously believes that? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Google "scapegoat" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568855) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:04 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (idiot) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568868) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Excitant piazza Plausible in isolation. Not repeatedly and independently throughout history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568901) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut (idiot) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568906) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:11 AM Author: Excitant piazza Considering I nailed you off the bat, and you’re employing facially laughable theories instead of admitting the obvious - every host society eventually realized they were being swindled and expelled what they considered to be a parasite - I don’t think many would agree with you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568917) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568922) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut You're a strange dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568939) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage substantive response (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568954) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:17 AM Author: Excitant piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568970) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Excitant piazza I’m actively looking for reasons to appreciate Jews. But when you come in lying your ass off, you don’t do your cause any favors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568956) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut lol
edit: Do you want a factual, cogent response to your insane paranoid bigotry? If you do, I will provide it but it's going to take me a few minutes. I have some down time, so I can do this.
Or, if you're just trolling save me some time and just admit it. If not, I'll do my best to provide your sad, depraved mind with some enlightenment. Consider it my mitzvah for the day. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Excitant piazza I would appreciate a substantive response, but if it contains the same level of “substance” as your poasts ITT so far, might as well save your time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569016) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage and in your explanation I'm sure you'll describe how Jews have NEVER done anything wrong (never to sought to take advantage of or undermine their host societies, only wanted to get along peacefully) and faced persecution by barbarous Europeans merely because of jealousy due to their superior intellect and prejudice because of depictions of them as killers of Christ
there I just saved you some time |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:03 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage oh he's Jewish http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3897851&mc=9&forum_id=2
http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3895777&mc=9&forum_id=2
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Excitant piazza Wow, what a shocker! I never would have guessed!!!
I should thank him for helping illustrate my OP. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Sense of humor, table 5 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568889) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: disturbing white pervert windowlicker "Sense of humor, table 5"
deploying worn out humor from the middle of the 20th century that was already stale before Woody Allen raped his daughter (in the best tradition of the shtetl) is very Yidzy |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569798) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action The answer is that Jews *do* have power/wealth/influence disproportionate to their numbers. If you're not going to acknowledge that, you're not addressing the matter seriously.
The funny thing for people like lawman8 and others like him is that the same argument applies to "whites" in general. Whites have hugely disproporitionate global power/wealth/influence compared to their global population. But in the case of whites, that gets chalked up to good genes and culture. In the case of Jews, it gets chalked up to a nefarious plot. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza the difference is that jews are generally small minorities in host countries while whites are majorities in countries they control. that's a big difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569970) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action It's a difference as far as why there is resentment, sure. Just like blacks in South Africa resented whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570057) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: disturbing white pervert windowlicker Whites accumulated their wealth and power at a time when Europe + North America constituted more than 50% of global population. It's only natural that they are experiencing a relative decline now that their numbers are shrinking proportionally. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570012) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Link? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570065) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza The question you're struggling with is whether it is morally just to craft policies targeting specific groups when there are individuals within that group that don't deserve to be targeted.
In this case, Jews overwhelming are liberal and try to destroy the majority cultures wherever they are. But not all of them are this way. There's a small subset, such as Stephen Miller, that are proud nationalists. To craft an anti-Jewish policy and to have it affect the few Stephen Miller-esque Jews out there would be unfair.
My answer would be to draft laws targeting liberals in general. This would disproportionately affect Jews, but would avoid the non-liberal Jews that don't deserve to be targeted.
It's a fine line and I'm not entirely convinced society is capable of fine line distinctions, but that's what I think is fair. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:00 AM Author: Excitant piazza That does seem fair. But how would you practically apply these policies? Can you give some examples of proposed laws that would fairly tackle the problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568838) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3500180&mc=55&forum_id=2#32432771 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568846) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: Excitant piazza These policies don’t seem to explicitly target libs. And the issue I’m getting at in my OP is that Jews will employ deception to prevent fair debate as to the merits of any of your policies, meaning they would never be passed (barring taking care of the problem first, perhaps through your proposals to target libs). Do you agree? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568872) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza The policies I linked to target the power centers of liberal power - universities (youth indoctrination), the media (general indoctrination), and unrestrained immigration (liberal voting blocks). You have to target their power sources to weaken them before you can go after them further.
Yes, I agree with you in general. The left and the right have different structures for power accumulation though. The left does it slowly over time dragging society leftwards. The right, when it is successful in changing society fundamentally, is usually because it takes power in one fell swoop (such as a military takeover). Reforming institutions via incremental changes doesn't work for the right, which is a big part of the reason why I think Jeff Sessions is so terrible. I think it's basically impossible to beat the left using leftist tactics.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: sexy drab knife kitchen Honestly, Stephen Miller-type bros should probably just convert to Christianity and assimilate, as many patriotic Jews have done throughout history in the US and Europe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568852) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568874) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Honestly, can't argue against this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570898) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef Remember there is a difference from "A Jew" and the "The Jew"
Also a lot of the major problem causing Jews are the ones who are athiestic/non-religious or have twisted the meaning of their religion to allow them to act however they please. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage the Hassidim are the scum of the earth tho (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568880) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Excitant piazza Can you expand on your first sentence? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568962) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef It goes back to individual versus collective gestalt level behavior - Jews are notoriously bad at knowing when is enough, when is too much, when they have pushed their boundaries when they are among the nations. Over hundreds if not thousands of years this has been the case.
If you have a small group of Jews or individuals, they are typically not a major problem but when you reach critical mass of them in institutions and society - then the issues come to the forefront.
However though - most of International Jewery is a combination of Zionists as well as Sabbatean/Frankist heretics and other random sects.
The Jew is very good at not discussing their sects and their beliefs - especially those that arose in the later period of the 1600's or so onwards.
These groups (Sabbateans / Frankists) are the ones who sort of gave birth to the ideological dogma of "you can act really bad and its actually good in the grand scheme of things" which is sort of the beginning of nihilistic moral relativist thinking which came to dominate in only a few hundred years. And why wouldn't it? It basically states that you can do whatever you want and it is still ok. Many powerful Jewish families can be traced back to Frankists or similar influences - also similar with Sabbateans.
Except these movements are basically Kabbalistic heresies that split off from Isaac of Luria's teachings, which itself stems from the book called The Zohar (whose origins cannot be conclusively proven) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: violent mental disorder Why is the rest of the world so easily controlled and manipulated by this small group of outsiders? It just seems like if you are casting jews as morally depraved, dangerous and powerful, the argument really only works if the rest of mankind is pure, good, and naive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569512) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef Much of it has to do with the fact that Jews were uniquely adapted to this modern life - generations of talmudic hiermenutics and them being barred from owning real property produced highly intelligent symbol manipulators which allowed them to dominate in Finance/Math/Technology while the disputations and manifold interpretations contained in the Talmud allowed them to dominate Law and Philosophy.
Also if you look even further back in time, the Babylonian Temple system was rooted in usury and even had a secondary market where temple indulgences and positions were traded. It is reasonable to assume that during the Babylonian Captivity, some strangers returned with the Israelites and that gave their ancient ways a segue into the Mediterranean by way of Greece. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: violent mental disorder lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570652) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:32 PM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef Would you dispute that the Hebrew alphabet changed after the Galut Bavli? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571959) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: rose pozpig station There are sections of the Talmud lifted almost verbatim from babylonian law so point taken (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35588799) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Excitant piazza Interesting. Thank you for the explanation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569925) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef No problem - don’t be surprised if my points aren't acknowledged or discussed in this thread further - the further you dig into the history books the more you see history that has gone ignored or is deliberately difficult to access - Can you guess the reason? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571952) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza i agree with the first part of your statement but as a Jew I've never heard of the subgroups you describe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569980) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef Feel free to look the sects up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571900) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:17 AM Author: violent mental disorder Personally I love Jews and think anti-semitism is retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568968) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut fuck yeah blood acre, jersey strong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568983) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: violent mental disorder cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569140) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Fluffy rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570400) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Excitant piazza Obviously, because you are Jewish yourself. But you’re a good example of an individual Jew who is great.
If you’re intellectually honest, however, you can’t deny the negative things I mentioned in the OP. It’s not some crazy coincidence that, as a whole, Jews have engaged in the same type of subversive behavior in their host societies throughout time, and have consistently been exiled as a result. These numerous independent examples - spanning the globe and history - cannot be explained away as some irrational “anti Semitism” that all of these different societies independently concluded. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: violent mental disorder Yes I can. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569094) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Excitant piazza I guess you can stick your head in the sand, but it’s obvious that’s what you are doing.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut "It's obvious what you're doing" said lawman8 to Bloodacre, who was shopping at Sharper Image in Paramus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570120) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: violent mental disorder What am I doing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570224) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Excitant piazza Low IQ? Sticking your head in the sand. It was pretty clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570545) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: violent mental disorder What specifically did you mention in the OP? Controlling the media and banking? That's literally as specific as you got.
Your argument is basically "jews have been targeted throughout history. there must be some reason for this. the reason is that jews are shit. if you disagree, you are intellectually dishonest."
I don't think the Jews who were relegated to the Pale of Settlement were controlling the banks or media when they were massacred by the Czarist regime. It was, like many other instances of xenophobia and genocide, a way in which to divert the rage of a discontent mass of people (i.e. scapegoating). See also the Holocaust. It's no different than the targeting of other minority groups like the Tutsis, Serbs, Kurds, Armenians etc.
The Jews have always been an other group living in someone else's homeland and can easily be targeted. They also make for a particularly easy target during times of discontent and low morale because of their disproportionate success.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:19 AM Author: Talking business firm preventive strike Who said anything about killing anybody? I thought the plan was simply to put them in "camps" where they can "work" and perform all those great societal advancements in a safe, secure environment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568989) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Sounds fishy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35568991) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Talking business firm preventive strike I understand your concern and to sweeten the deal, transportation to the camps will be provided free of charge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569100) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich forgot to mention OP already btfo by himmler:
And then they come, 80 million worthy Germans, and each one has his decent Jew. Of course the others are vermin, but this one is an A-1 Jew. Not one of all those who talk this way has witnessed it, not one of them has been through it. Most of you must know what it means when 100 corpses are lying side by side, or 500 or 1000. To have stuck it out and at the same time - apart from exceptions caused by human weakness - to have remained decent fellows, that is what has made us hard. This is a page of glory in our history which has never been written and is never to be written, for we know how difficult we should have made it for ourselves, if - with the bombing raids, the burdens and the deprivations of war - we still had Jews today in every town as secret saboteurs, agitators and trouble-mongers. We would now probably have reached the 1916/17 stage when the Jews were still in the German national body. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza It's your inability to distinguish between individuals and groups that makes you monstrous, imo. It's hard to see how you function in real life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569424) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich try again. read it slower this time, maybe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569467) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza So you're going to play the same deceptive game of the very people you despise, eh? OK. At least get better at it. The quote you're referencing is from a speech Himmler made on exterminating the Jews:
Also, yesterday or the day before you called for a race war and emphasized that you were not being facetious.
The more you write, the more despicable you reveal yourself to be. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569673) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich try again to demonstrate an inability to distinguish between groups and individuals; perhaps third time will be the charm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569680) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Excitant piazza I discussed it in my OP. I used Rach and Stephen Miller as examples.
There is no chance in hell they’d ever engage in the sort of behavior we are talking about. They are good people. They are the baby I’m talking about that you would sweep out with the bathwater. Surely you can concede that these individuals are distinct from the group at large.
You think it’s fair for them to just be killed? That’s the major source of disagreement, because your solution seems insane. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:43 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza You are a sick individual. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569740) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich ding!
try again. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:33 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570096) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action At least we agree on that much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570177) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Fluffy rehab Assimilate until loyalty to "the clan" is gone and the skills and talent are used for the greater good of society as a whole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569495) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Marvelous hilarious theater stage roast beef (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570687) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: violent mental disorder I agree that there is a sentiment in the Jewish community that they are Jews first Americans second. It is despicable and I think this mindset needs to change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570922) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: Excitant piazza If it did, it would solve almost everything.
But I don’t think they can change. They’ve been this way for thousands of years, and as far as I know, have always been that way. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:22 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter I mean, a bunch haven't but they just convert out. Basically, it takes significant effort to actually stay Jewish generation after generation in a society where you're like 1-2% of the population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571033) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:39 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Except for the ones that aren't like that.
Analogizing 16th century Poland to 20th or 21st century USA is stupid. The USA has been a melting pot for centuries, so assimilation is a heck of a lot easier and more common than probably any other culture that Jews have been a part of for millennia.
I wonder how many Jews you actually know. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Excitant piazza Plenty, and they are great. But I also know of the bad they do.
That’s what prompted this thread. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action And are they alone, or do you also know plenty of non-Jews who do bad?
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:18 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter But isn't that basically the whole point of sticking with Judaism? Otherwise, you just intermarry, convert and move on with your life. Within a generation you're normal Americans, Germans, French people, whatever.
To put it another way, there's no deep religious philosophy to Judaism or anything like that. Most of the traditions, holidays, rules just serve to separate you from larger society. So if you take all that away, you just get assimilation. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:27 PM Author: violent mental disorder That's just america being a secular country. Most christians don't go to church but celebrate christmas. should we just abandon all traditions and culture? or should everyone in the US just adopt christian traditions because it's the majority? This seems pretty unamerican.
Having a passover seder, eating in a sukkah, making latke and lighting the menorah, fasting on yom kippur (lol @ me doing that) etc. It's a connection to my ancestors, a set of traditions to experience and pass on to my children, a piece of my identity even if not entirely religious.
How about you and your family? Why do you insist on identifying as Russian? Shouldn't you stop eating borscht and just assimilate already? Why are Jewish traditions different and nefarious? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter "That's just america being a secular country"
Disagree. It is the same in Europe, Russia, etc.
"Most christians don't go to church but celebrate christmas. should we just abandon all traditions and culture?"
That's my point though. These are traditions/culture that exist solely for the purpose of separation. They're not better in any way, but yet people cling to them to maintain that separation. So yeah, just replace them. That's what assimilation is.
"or should everyone in the US just adopt christian traditions because it's the majority? This seems pretty unamerican."
Until fairly recently this was basically expected.
"Having a passover seder, eating in a sukkah, making latke and lighting the menorah, fasting on yom kippur (lol @ me doing that) etc. It's a connection to my ancestors, a set of traditions to experience and pass on to my children, a piece of my identity even if not entirely religious."
But all that solely exists to separate you from the society you actually live in. Is it really that shocking when the societies view that with suspicion and disapproval?
"How about you and your family? Why do you insist on identifying as Russian? Shouldn't you stop eating borscht and just assimilate already? Why are Jewish traditions different and nefarious?"
I don't really have any special Russian holidays or traditions that really separate me from regular Americans. If you disagree then name them. I guess the closest thing I can think of is that Russian Orthodox Christmas is on different dates. My response is to celebrate both American and Russian Christmas. It isn't to pretend that American Christmas isn't a real thing and to get offended and demand everyone say "Happy Holidays" and such.
By the way, in Russia the expectation was basically the same. You can still have some American background but you're expected to live in the culture and society you're in. I don't understand why that is objectionable. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: violent mental disorder You openly and frequently identify as "Russian" despite being an American citizen. Your profess your loyalty to Russia and an admiration for Putin. I would say that is far more suspicious and warrants disapproval, given your vision of the role of assimilation, than my sitting down to have a passover seder with my family.
We've discussed similar issues before, and it's clear to me that you adjust whatever standards you apply to come to a negative conclusion about Jews. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Are you sure you're not confusing him with ARE Reptile? I didn't think TMG was a huge Putin fan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571306) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Some parts of that were definitely Are Reptile. I've never "professed loyalty to Russia". For Putin, see below. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571459) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter "You openly and frequently identify as "Russian" despite being an American citizen."
Well, I've always been identified that way in the US, so I guess it stuck. But I'm also American for sure, not only in terms of citizenship but culturally. By the way, in Russia I get identified as American because of that. Part of the issue though is that in America no one just identifies as a regular American. Everyone is Irish-American, African-American, Asian-American, etc. It is identity politics and that is the name of the game. But that's really a problem. When I lived in Russia one of the first things I was told is that the Americanisms were cute, but that I needed to understand that I was back home now and the expectation was that I live like a Russian. That message was loud, clear and universal. Here in the US it is basically the opposite. That isn't a good thing.
"Your profess your loyalty to Russia and an admiration for Putin."
I think you're confusing me for Are Reptile. I don't "profess my loyalty to Russia" at all (and it would be absurd for me to do so, given where I live and what I do). I do think Putin is probably the best leader Russia has had since the time of the Tsars and no one has ever been able to provide a counter-example. But of course he is imperfect.
"We've discussed similar issues before, and it's clear to me that you adjust whatever standards you apply to come to a negative conclusion about Jews."
Not at all. And I don't think this is limited to Jews either. But the subject of this thread was Jews so that's what I spoke to. Like I said below though, pretty much everything here applies to Muslims to, for example. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:31 PM Author: violent mental disorder You embrace your Russian identity. It's even been a big part of your schtick on xo. No one on the internet would know you were even the slightest bit russian if you didn't force feed that aspect of your identity to us over the years.
Somehow, you conclude that my continuance of a few Jewish customs is a refusal to assimilate while your daily identification as ethnically Russian is a label that's been reluctantly thrust upon you. Clearly it's a different standard.
So is it just Muslims and Jews? What about Indians? What about the different sects of christianity? Is the point you are really trying to make that we would be better off as a culturally homogeneous country and the best way to accomplish that is for everyone to adopt white christian middle class culture? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:52 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Yes, I'm arguing for a cohesive national identity that includes culture and religion. You know, like what exists in most of the world and which has been totally non-controversial throughout human history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571683) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Also, Russian culture has more to offer everyone while Jewish culture is totally insular. I'll post a couple of links at the bottom of the thread to drive this point home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35572294) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: sexy drab knife kitchen "Or should everyone in the US just adopt christian traditions because it's the majority? This seems pretty unamerican."
Who do you think "Americans" were until the last few decades? |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:32 PM Author: violent mental disorder I think you are confusing 2 different things here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571515) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Plus, to the extent lawman or others are saying that everyone with any little bit of Jewish ancestry is part of this "can't assimilate" group its a total contradiction.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Didn't read the whole thread but yeah, that would be preposterous. That is a large portion of the population, btw. A bunch of Jews have converted and merged into greater populations at some point (going all the way back to the Roman Empire), so good chance a bunch of people are in some way related to someone who was born a Jew somewhere.
Also, for more recent examples, they would require that you say Benjamin Disraeli was in some way not assimilated even though he defined the UK conservative movement and the Anglican Church for generations. Not logical. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action To be fair to lawman, I think that was another poster making that point directly, but his references to Jewish over-representation in media is probably based on tallies that count all sorts of not-full-Jews as Jews. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571235) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Well, I think there's a lot of conflation generally here. "I hate shitlibs, a lot of Jews are shitlibs, therefore shitlibism is a Jewish problem." China, North Korea, Cambodia, Vietnam, much of Latin America (notably, Venezuela right now) happily fell to straight up Communism with pretty much no Jewish presence in the population.
So we end up with trying to tackle two questions which aren't really the same thing at the same time (even if there is some overlap). Q1: What do we do with shitlibs that are destroying the country? Q2: What do we do with Jews, who for whatever reason aren't assimilating as much as a bunch of people ITT want?
Even if you fully resolve Q2, Q1 will continue to exist. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:06 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I agree mostly. There are lots of Jews with influence in all aspects of American society, but that doesn't mean you can just pick the bad aspects and say "see, Jews are bad and responsible for these bad things and these bad things wouldn't exist if not for Jews."
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter I agree with this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571491) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I agree with this for every ethnic group. Assimilation is not a dirty word, and being American means being loyal to America and Americans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571125) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Unfortunately, libs have made it a dirty word.
Example: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/02/the-history-of-assimilation-as-a-racist-code-word.html
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Yeah, that is grade A bullshit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571172) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Agreed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571219) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Opaque Low-t Dilemma Chad how is this complicated at all? all jews get deported to israel. nobody has to die or suffer. they already have a specific country that is just for them
jews are more than smart enough to take care of themselves once we ship them all off to israel. they'll figure it out |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569541) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:08 PM Author: Cracking Depressive Cumskin just amend the constitution or get 5 supreme court justices to agree that your anti-jew legislation is constitutional. simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571787) |
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Date: March 13th, 2018 7:41 AM Author: magenta death wish Ah yes the Supreme Court the ultimate in Jew overrepresentation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35593445) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Honey-headed Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569684) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: disturbing white pervert windowlicker The Jews have exploited elements of the sociopolitical system that would be captured by any group with their combination of traits in a 'democratic', 'egalitarian', and 'multicultural' society.
The actual solution is the abolition of 'democracy' (with its money-based politics) and the creation of a regime of direct state power via Caesarism. Trump is a step in that direction. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Lemon Whorehouse French Chef PREACH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569903) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: disturbing white pervert windowlicker my ministry is soon to begin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35569912) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Mila Kunis vs George Soros (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570085) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570204) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:32 PM Author: light doobsian boltzmann What Hitler quote are you referring to? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570090) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Excitant piazza I don’t know how to find it. Pepito poasted it a while back, and it’s gotten a ton of responses.
It’s the one that talks about how Jews pretend not to know what you’re talking about, then try to change the subject, and even if you finally get them to acknowledge a point, the next day they’ll act like they have no idea what you’re talking about. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Honey-headed Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570747) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Excitant piazza I found it:
The great masses could be saved, if only with the gravest sacrifice in time and patience.
But a Jew could never be parted from his opinions.
The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.
Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.
I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: violent mental disorder Sounds like a description of Trump. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570892) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: Excitant piazza Lol, not at all. Trump isn’t smart enough to engage in these deceptions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570930) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: violent mental disorder so the average jew is smarter than trump? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570945) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Excitant piazza With respect to the type of verbal intelligence required to do this, yes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570998) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: violent mental disorder You certainly hold us in high regard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571100) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: Excitant piazza I’m a race realist, as is every intellectually honest person with an IQ above 100.
Askenazi Jews have the highest IQs. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action I was going to say pumos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571183) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: boyish tanning salon codepig I think ethnic and familial favoritism generally is a problem, and needs a systemic solution. If you kill all the Jews or all the ones in power or what have you but the system remains vulnerable to the exploits they used, you'll just see some other group come along and use those exploits.
Don't hate the player, hate the game. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: drunken trip queen of the night state No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570433) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Europe killed all their Jews and traded them for Muslims, look how that's working out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570445) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich working out fine in the places cleansed of jews (russia, poland, hungary, czech) who spent the cold war out of reach
not working out so well for those controlled by jewry since the end of wwII (germany, france, britain, holland, belgium, sweden, et al.)
http://cf.datawrapper.de/OIUT5/1/
thanks, hitler! |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Oh yeah, Russia, they're doing sooo great! Gosh. I stand corrected! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35570750) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Insecure burgundy resort sandwich well, they dont hate putin bc hes failing
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/GDP_of_Russia_since_1989.svg |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571079) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter "working out fine in the places cleansed of jews (russia"
The "cleansing" of Jews in Russia is an interesting question for the purposes of this thread. Russia had a ton of Jews. The definition was just totally different than in the rest of the world. It was based on your father, the religion was banned, there was no way to convert out of it, etc. Everyone was assimilated anyway because if you refused to it was a one way gulag ticket. Yet, after the fall of the USSR, a bunch of them went back to Judaism as a religion. Some did not and became Russian Orthodox or Catholic or whatever. An example would be one of Russia's favorite anti-Semite, Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. Yes, that patronymic is instantly identifiable as Jewish.
So explain further. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:06 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Sounds like you're a real pro-commie kinda guy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571323) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Jews are 180, anti-semites deranged white trash
/thread |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:05 PM Author: Excitant piazza You’ve been exceptionally triggered by this thread.
Odd case. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:12 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Yet Jews seem to occupy a lot of space in your mind.
Odd case, indeed. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: Excitant piazza Judging from your tremendous triggering, I own your mind. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571045) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut What does "triggered" mean? That anyone who refutes your inane ramblings about JOOS is more triggered than someone who spent the better part of their day railing against JOOS? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571075) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Excitant piazza Bumping and creating many threads about me, in an attempt to feel like you are “winning” after getting blown out here.
Also, you didn’t refute a single thing ITT, lol.
Not to mention that most of the new threads you’ve created about me have gone absolutely nowhere. You’re on an island. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut You've been struck down multiple times, and your stupidity is so direct and obvious that it'd be like trying to explain physics to a retard, it just would never compute.
You've been blown out so many times on here and continue to show up despite the fact that you're mainly reviled. It's sad and yet each time you limp away from being defeated, you come back to only be struck down again. How masochistic. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: Excitant piazza I was able to nail you as a Jew from the characteristic deception in literally one poast. Someone else linked your gloating threads proving I was right.
Now you are simply recoiling, triggered you’ve been exposed. Too bad, so sad. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut You've made a bunch of broad, unfounded claims with nothing to back it up. You've just made several declarative statements, with no proof, evidence or coherent reasoning. A simple search for your name can show a history where you have been repeatedly gaped and called out on this, yet you're too dumb to understand and continue to manifest this strange mix of being gaped, shying away, and then coming back to try again. Good luck lil brej. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571271) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage No lawman8 is 180 and you fucking suck. You've never made a coherent point on xo ever |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Stimulating point juggernaut Additionally, searching your moniker in history shows you have been embarrassed multiple times, you're seen as dumb yet verbose and are generally considered a strange/shitty poaster, with a smattering of support from equally deranged people or pumos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571085) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter By the way, what an XO-ish thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571161) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: Excitant piazza It’s a shame it’s veering so off course, mainly from defensive Jews who pretend thousands of years of exile all resulted from some vast conspiracy.
I think that if the concept in my OP could be fleshed out, it would present a great middle ground/alternative to the Nazism that is back on the rise. Right now, many people can’t even conceive of such a middle ground.
Basically, society feeds us all a bunch of lies. We aren’t supposed to notice the patterns or trends with Jewish behavior, and such inquiry is strictly forbidden.
But if someone committed to the truth realizes these things, they have nowhere else to turn apart from Nazism, which promises all the “answers.” Deus Vult is a great example ITT. I believe these answers are fatally flawed, as you are throwing out way too much good that Jews produce, as well as targeting completely innocent people, which is grossly unfair.
But what is the alternative? The muzzle that society places on you? Believing in outright lies? That’s why a middle ground is needed.
While barely anyone ITT has addressed the question I asked, the best suggestion so far seems to be implementing policies that target shitlibs. That way, the forces destroying society can be dealt with, including the non Jews, and the great individual Jews suffer absolutely no adverse consequences.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Nazism was actually a historical aberration. Traditionally, much of the world has just demanded that everyone convert to the local religion or gtfo. For example, if you just banned circumcision you would have a huge impact straight off (Muslims and Jews are basically the two groups that do it). If you demand to do it you have to leave. If you are ok not doing it then you're probably at least more open to assimilation.
By the way, fun fact: Hannukah is basically celebrating when the Jews fought a war over efforts to assimilate them into a broader society and won.
But like I said above, the war on shitlibs and your thoughts on Jews (and really, should include Muslims) in America and questions on assimilation have overlap but are ultimately two seperate issues.
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Yeah, it's a shame everyone won't just accept your questionable premise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571344) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action Again, I ask what is so hard about treating people as individuals? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571352) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage do individuals within a given race generally share some common behaivoral traits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571898) |
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Date: March 12th, 2018 5:21 PM Author: slap-happy coral parlor You are smart, but really naive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35589503) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Cyan vivacious filthpig plaza ironmonkey really polluted up this thread with garbage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571168) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571282) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: submissive bossy affirmative action no u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571380) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:53 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Nah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571692) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 4:57 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35571719) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: Cracking Depressive Cumskin the lulziest aspect of this thread is the implication that whites don't use deception and don't try to control, dominate, and exploit less intelligent cultures and groups. look, everybody is in it to win. groups with greater ability that play as a team will always be the most successful. whites have succeeded this way too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35572114) |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage lol they don't
and when whites did in the past, they IMPROVED things. when Europeans colonized Africa and Asia they brought values and industry and infrastructure and today they owe a huge debt to the white man
Kikes have taken over the Western world and just completely fucking destroyed everything. It's unreal. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: yapping library I think the intrigue (or hate) surrounding Jews is that they've taken a long-game strategy: they don't strive for expansion in numbers, they're always a minority, they tend to gravitate toward 'high-level maintenance' positions (which is the nicest way I can think of phrasing work in rent-seeking fields like finance and power-behind-the-throne fields like modern media), and their insularity and influence leads to them being occasionally reviled and expelled -- but never eradicated.
Comparing white success with jewish success is like comparing an r-selection-strategy species with a K-selection one. Both approaches can obviously work, but neither could ever switch approaches midway through (can you imagine a sea turtle being like "yeah, I'm only gonna lay one egg this year instead of 170, but I'm gonna try to stick around this time and do it right"), or even temper its approach to incorporate the ideas of the other.
In terms of what the solution is, it's obviously to have periods of oscillating relations between whites and jews, with the latter being productive members of society, wearing out their welcome, becoming hated and eventually expelled, then eventually coming back again and contributing to society once passions have cooled. This is the way it has always been.
It is the hallmark of a simple mind, like lawman8's, to think that history is or should be marching in a constant direction toward some static end. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: Excitant piazza Lol, you’re a real piece of work.
You must have missed the part where I’ve said, over and over, that Jews have been continually exiled from the countries they resided in. So I’m well aware of what you call the “obvious” solution. Though your superior intellect failed to grasp that exile isn’t “the way it has always been,” see Germany.
But such a solution seems unnecessarily drastic in light of the differences between groups and individuals. I’d like to think there could be some sort of middle ground, such as laws that target all shitlibs. Evidently you, with your superior intellect, think that’s nonsense. |
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Date: March 9th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Curious idea he suggested faggot firefighter Subject: Also, for Bloodacre re: Russian culture I'll just leave this here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8slArpj_XU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhRAZpmEX2M
As opposed to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFobccW1bI
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Date: March 10th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: Excitant piazza This is the third most active thread of the week, yet not as much discussion as I would have liked of the question posed in the thread title. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35576202) |
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Date: March 11th, 2018 10:23 AM Author: brindle sinister ladyboy stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35580502) |
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Date: March 14th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: Excitant piazza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3914051&forum_id=2#35602973) |