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Last year I told u to dump AMD. This year I'm impressed they're keeping up
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Date: March 17th, 2018 11:29 PM Author: shimmering provocative native I still think there is something going on behind the scenes (possibly orchestrated by the government) to prop up AMD in periods when Intel has just been sitting on their massive lead (we were at 4-core I7 desktop flagships for literally 9 years), but the next crop of Ryzens are looking good, and their 7nm Ryzen 2s are due out next year. There is beginning to be real potential here for AMD to dig in to some of Intel's marketshare in the workstation (ie, programmers and such) market and servers, and performance is slowly becoming more competitive in gaming. Not sure if it's a "good buy", but when I refresh my computer next year my next processor could very well be a Ryzen 2. Lots of cores make running multiple VMs a breeze. Plus there's definitely a little bit of nostalgia in finally using an AMD to build a computer at 30+, when the last time I used one I was half that age. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#35629184) |
Date: March 18th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: shimmering provocative native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#35633322) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: shimmering provocative native Caveat: as long as GPU mining is viable for ethereum (or any other crypto worth a decent amount of money really), the price is inflated. Still, it will be interesting to see how Zen 2 plays out given Intel is dragging their feet a bit as the company was probably genuinely not prepared for AMD to actually meet (much less push forward) its timetable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36085616) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 5:57 PM Author: comical foreskin dilemma Bro, your assessment of Ryzen processors is off the mark. Intel still has a slight edge over Ryzen's single thread performance and therefore can be considered "better" for gaming, but processors are no longer a performance bottle neck for gaming. When it comes to multi-thread performance, Ryzen has a clear and fairly commanding lead over Intel. AMD just further cemented this lead with the smooth release of the second gen Zen processors (Zen+).
AMD's GPUs remain shit and will be liability for the foreseeable future, and miners will no longer be there to bail them out. Barring a huge development in crypto, it is no longer economically sound to purchase new cards for mining. As such, AMD must count on gamers to buy their GPUs, which is a tall order since Nvidia has maintained its giant performance advantage over AMD's GPUs.
I don't know enough about the mobile or server CPU markets to speak intelligently on those topics.
EDIT: Just reread your OP, and I may have been a little harsh. Suffice it to say, AMD has reached parity with Intel at the moment in the desktop PC market and arguably has surpassed Intel.
Cop that AMD CPU. I just built a PC using a 2700X, and it is 180. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 6:11 PM Author: shimmering provocative native The average desktop user only sees marginal benefits from extra cores past a certain point (specifically 4) though, even in 2018. This is because many applications aren't really designed with a fully-parallel mindset but you have "the UI thread, the worker thread, the state thread" and so forth.
For server or workstation purposes I agree they've taken the lead, but that market is slower to react and they'll have to sustain their advantage for some time for companies to buy-in accordingly. If I were building a desktop today I'd choose an AMD CPU, but most people just aren't both running windows to play games and a full-blown linux VM alongside for development.
To be honest the thing I like most about AMD is they're our best counter to some Chinese bullshit curbstomping the world. There is a very likely scenario wherein the Party begins to heavily favor local CPU manufacturers, and once those companies are large enough they'll eventually reach parity with Intel. AMD is the only thing keeping Intel on its toes, and Making CPUs Profitable Again so they aren't as laser-focused on GPU margins is a great development for US competition to keep us ahead and preempt such scenarios.
I'm still like 90% convinced of my conspiracy theory that AMD has been propped up all along with an agreement between the three relevant parties (US govt, AMD, and Intel) due to pretty much this exact scenario, though. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 6:18 PM Author: comical foreskin dilemma What you are overlooking is that Ryzen CPUs are cheaper than the comparable Intel CPUs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36085793) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 6:23 PM Author: shimmering provocative native Only very marginally so though given Intel cut price almost immediately. From a server perspective the price differential is trivial relative to the cost of storage (SSD prices haven't dropped as much as people expected) and RAM (which is still utterly astronomical at the moment)
They'll have to sustain a performance advantage for at least another solid year (likely two) to really see gains bigly. It took AMD years to pull this off the first time around; the Athlon crushed the P3 in price:performance for a good while, but AMD didn't really start taking a big bite out of intel until the AMD64 days, and its heydey lasted for all of about a year before the Core line came out. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: bateful hell Hmmm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36085821) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: Sickened Wonderful Stock Car let's have sex (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36085799) |
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Date: July 16th, 2018 2:54 AM Author: shimmering provocative native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36435064) |
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Date: July 27th, 2018 5:16 PM Author: shimmering provocative native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#36509704) |
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Date: March 23rd, 2019 5:15 AM Author: Exhilarant elastic band AMD's 3000 series will be out soon, pushing the entry level to 6cores/12threads with the top end at 16/32. Just amazing.
What the fuck is Intel doing? TSMC, chip manufacturer for AMD, is already at 7nm (which is probably equivalent to Intel's 10nm) but Intel keeps delaying the release of their 10nm desktop CPUs. |
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Date: March 30th, 2019 12:04 PM Author: shimmering provocative native intel is gonna get fisted by the whirlwind of AMD and ARM processors from Samsung and 600 chinese companies at this rate, LJL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#38014894) |
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Date: March 30th, 2019 1:01 PM Author: comical foreskin dilemma Told you AMD was well positioned relative to Intel in the desktop CPU segment.
AMD's turnaround (and/or Intel's fuck up) is a spectacular story. |
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Date: November 10th, 2021 3:44 PM Author: shimmering provocative native (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#43419375) |
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Date: March 30th, 2019 12:16 PM Author: Overrated carmine depressive AMD has a STRONG FEMALE CEO, which will obviously lead to better performance, you bigot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3921754&forum_id=2#38014932) |