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Why was the movie Hannibal so underrated and poorly received by critics?
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Date: March 18th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay you have Ridley Scott coming off Gladiator directing a David fucking Mamet screenplay based on some of Thomas Harris' best source material, and Anthony fucking Hopkins reprising one of the most legendary and unforgettable characters ever conceived in film/literature. half of the movie takes place in Florence and Gary Oldman puts on a fucking clinic for any actor aspiring to play a villain in a B-rated horror film.
I understand people were sad that Jodie Foster and John Demme weren't involved but tough shit. the original Hannibal movie had Brian Cox as Hannibal and Dennis Farina as Foster's boss. Julianne Moore was actually a better Clarice Starling than Jodie Foster, less robotic and showing a sliver of vulnerability. |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Indigo frisky theatre mother >based on some of Thomas Harris' best source material
Have you read the book? It's fucking terrible. It's insane that Mamet ever agreed to try to adapt that turd. |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:19 PM Author: copper crackhouse Eh, it's fun. Super bloated and abandons characterization for all characters and any pretense to realism, but enjoyable if not expecting much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633476) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: Indigo frisky theatre mother It's schlock. Mason Verger is sodomized by his sister with a cattle prod and Clarice and Lecter elope after eating human brains together. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633501) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: copper crackhouse Yes, it's schlock. That's sorta my point. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633512) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 10:12 PM Author: Indigo frisky theatre mother Your point was that his best source material is complete shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634676) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 10:17 PM Author: copper crackhouse No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634707) |
Date: March 18th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: maroon resort Yeah it was awesome, I think some critics had this idea that SotL was high art but it was always Grand Guignol and Hannibal was just a logical progression of it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633374) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay the ending was so fucking good. everything from the final set piece at Ray Liotta's weekend lake house to introducing Hannibal to his Asian protege from the books. it's honestly a masterpiece of the thriller genre. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633387) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: maroon resort Have you seen the TV show? It is so fucking crazy and good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633391) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: copper crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633399) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay yes i watched every episode and used to troll for it here. I would watch it again if I could cut out all of Will Graham's nightmare scenes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633400) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: maroon resort You mean the ones with the moose? Some of them were pretty trippy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633412) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: heady yarmulke 180 Show. I’m a huge gore lover and I am amazed at the stuff they managed to get onto network television (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633426) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: maroon resort Some of the most disturbing violence I've ever seen was on this show. I think it was mostly French-funded and just aired on NBC in a bad time slot.
Some scenes that come to mind:
Hannibal driving a knife through a guy's brain at his dinner table
The scene where the Asian woman agent is found with her body carefully dissected and displayed in glass panels
The scene where some insane killer is stitching bodies together at the bottom of a silo, and then later when one of those bodies escapes and falls off a cliff
The scene where Hannibal places a comb in the girl's incubator and it causes a spark and she burns alive |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: heady yarmulke I remember hearing that they were having a problem with getting some scene past Standards and Practices because bare buttocks of some corpse were too visible—so they just smeared MORE blood on until it assuaged the censors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633453) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: maroon resort 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633458) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:18 PM Author: copper crackhouse God bless America (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633471) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:49 PM Author: Nudist Cuckold Market His azn protege? Wut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634058) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: copper crackhouse The book was compulsively readable but ljl at the ending - came out of nowhere though I could see it happening irl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633409) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:07 PM Author: Indigo frisky theatre mother Because it's a bad movie. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633410) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:55 PM Author: Disrespectful parlour becky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633705) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633775) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: heady yarmulke Honestly this movie would have done much better in the early 90s; by 2001, the popular taste for the particularly Roccoco tastes of Harris, a guy who wrote two great thrillers and then switched to fan fiction of his own material, was kaput. If this had come out in 1992 it would have killed during that early 90s interlude where the exploitation refugees of the collapsing 80s horror boom were swarming into the UMC bland cinema (your Ordinary Peoples and so on) and giving us glossy schlock like Basic Instinct and Indecent Proposal. Of course, that would have clashed with when Silence actually came out, so who knows.
It’s basically the most “post 1987 Dario Argento” movie that wasn’t an Argento movie. |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: copper crackhouse Scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633449) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:27 AM Author: Hot electric den weed whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35635717) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: Claret dog poop I actually enjoyed Red Dragon more. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633451) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:18 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay it was fine for a remake. I'm partial to the original for Mann's hyper-testosterone over-stylized synth-fueled take. prequels are also inherently flawed because they undercut suspense from the ending (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633472) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:34 AM Author: autistic corn cake alpha absolute trash, even Hopkins and Fiennes couldn't save it. Manhunter, on the other hand, is by far the best Lecktor film. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35635737) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: Soul-stirring pocket flask Saw it before Silence of the Lambs. Excellent. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35633503) |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 8:51 PM Author: Nudist Cuckold Market Harris didn't even want to write Hannibal, so he put in a sloppy hack job
Redhead woman was mediocre as shit
They neutered the interplay and ending of the movie |
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Date: March 18th, 2018 9:52 PM Author: Excitant Elite Lay if the novel sucks how can you criticize the movie for fixing the ending? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922300&forum_id=2#35634505) |