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Slate: Women profs score poorly on student evaluations. So, they're illegal.

Student Evaluations Can’t Be Used to Assess Professors Our ...
Razzle French Chef
  03/19/18
this article should be illegal
aggressive insecure brunch shitlib
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Balding step-uncle's house
  03/19/18
"This is not to say we should never evaluate teachers. ...
Dun submissive crackhouse hominid
  03/19/18
They really shouldn't put a lot of weight on scantron studen...
laughsome naked hospital
  03/19/18
"Even though the male professor’s identical online cour...
disturbing school cafeteria
  03/19/18
n=1
big coldplay fan
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Clear Motley Lay Useless Brakes
  03/19/18
Okay, so, if you don't hire enough women it's illegal discri...
autistic parlour clown
  03/19/18
Even though the male professor’s identical online course had...
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fragrant center roast beef
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misunderstood know-it-all deer antler telephone
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spectacular jet-lagged kitchen preventive strike
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Beady-eyed big-titted gay wizard
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Lol who do they think are commenting on the female profs’ cl...
Flatulent pit old irish cottage
  03/19/18
women forgot their place. and minorities are uppity. tell me...
geriatric potus goyim
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olive yarmulke fortuitous meteor
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did they control for presentation ability and teaching abili...
cobalt charismatic space
  03/19/18
Obviously those were implemented as constants :)
boyish pungent feces house
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I'm kind of surprised that attractive female professors don'...
frum heady theater foreskin
  03/19/18
What percentage of female professors do you imagine are attr...
spectacular jet-lagged kitchen preventive strike
  03/19/18
A lot of the grad students are pretty fetching and these day...
autistic parlour clown
  03/19/18
y? ratemyprofessors.com has a hotness rating
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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:10 PM
Author: Razzle French Chef

Student Evaluations Can’t Be Used to Assess Professors

Our research shows they’re biased against women. That means using them is illegal.

By KRISTINA MITCHELL

MARCH 19, 20189:00 AM

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Professor standing in front of a chalkboard marked up with a student evaluation.

Photo illustration by Slate. Photos by Thinkstock.

Imagine that you’re up for a promotion at your job, but before your superior decides whether you deserve it, you have to submit the comments section of an internet article that was written about you for assessment.

Sound a little absurd?

That’s in essence what we ask professors in higher education to do when they submit their teaching evaluations in their tenure and promotion portfolios. At the end of each semester, students are asked to fill out an evaluation of their professor. Typically, they are asked both to rate their professors on an ordinal scale (think 1­–5, 5 being highest) and provide written comments about their experience in the course.

In many cases, these written evaluations end up sounding more like something out of an internet comments section than a formal assessment of a professor’s teaching. Everything from personal attacks to text-speak (“GR8T CLASS!”) to sexual objectification has been observed by faculty members who dare to read their evaluation comments at the end of the semester.

But the fact that the evaluations can be cruel and informal to the point of uselessness isn’t even the problem. The problem is that there’s a significant and observable difference in the way teaching evaluations treat men versus women.

A new study I published with my co-author examines gender bias in student evaluations. We looked at the content of the comments in both the formal in-class student evaluations for his courses as compared to mine as well as the informal comments we received on the popular website Rate My Professors. We found that a male professor was more likely to receive comments about his qualification and competence, and that refer to him as “professor.” We also found that a female professor was more likely to receive comments that mention her personality and her appearance, and that refer to her as a “teacher.”

The comments weren’t the only part of the evaluation process we examined. We also looked at the ordinal scale ratings of a man and a woman teaching identical online courses. Even though the male professor’s identical online course had a lower average final grade than the woman’s course, the man received higher evaluation scores on almost every question and in almost every category.

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Think back to that promotion that you only get if you turn in the comments section on that article someone wrote about you. If you’re a woman, your comments are going to talk about whether you’re nice or rude and whether you’re hot or ugly, while for men, the comments will talk about how qualified you are. And on a scale of 1–5, a man is going to receive ratings that are, on average, 0.4 points higher than a woman.

This is frustrating, perhaps more so given that we certainly are not the first study to look at the ways that student evaluations are biased against female professors. But we might be among the first to make the case explicitly that the use of student evaluations in hiring, promotion, and tenure decisions represents a discrimination issue. The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission exists to enforce the laws that make it illegal to discriminate against a job applicant or employee based on sex. If the criteria for hiring and promoting faculty members is based on a metric that is inherently biased against women, is it not a form of discrimination?

It’s not just women who are suffering, either. My newest work looks at the relationship between race, gender, and evaluation scores (initial findings show that the only predictor of evaluations is whether a faculty member is a minority and/or a woman), and other work has looked at the relationship between those who have accented English and interpersonal evaluation scores. Repeated studies are demonstrating that evaluation scores are biased in favor of white, cisgender, American-born men.

This is not to say we should never evaluate teachers. Certainly, we can explore alternate methods of evaluating teaching effectiveness. We could use peer evaluations (though they might be subject to the same bias against women), self-evaluation, portfolios, or even simply weigh the evaluation scores given to women by 0.4 points, if that is found to be the average difference between men and women across disciplines and institutions. But until we’ve found a way to measure teaching effectiveness that isn’t biased against women, we simply cannot use teaching evaluations in any employment decisions in higher education.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637452)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: aggressive insecure brunch shitlib

this article should be illegal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637464)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: Balding step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35640707)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Dun submissive crackhouse hominid

"This is not to say we should never evaluate teachers. Certainly, we can explore alternate methods of evaluating teaching effectiveness."

For example, methods that give you a boost if you have a vagina, or like to wear skirts, etc. That would be fair.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637486)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: laughsome naked hospital

They really shouldn't put a lot of weight on scantron student evals. Most college kids are tards who think low amount of work/easy A = top marks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637519)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: disturbing school cafeteria

"Even though the male professor’s identical online course had a lower average final grade than the woman’s course, the man received higher evaluation scores on almost every question and in almost every category."

Sorry shitcon the authors addressed this exact point and found that, no, students are hateful and biased against women EVEN if men give them worse grades. any other theories, misogynist?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637547)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: big coldplay fan

n=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637667)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Clear Motley Lay Useless Brakes



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35638426)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: autistic parlour clown

Okay, so, if you don't hire enough women it's illegal discrimination so bring in the affirmative action. But if a gender-neutral metric that evaluates professors shows lower rating for women professors, that's also illegal so it must be scrapped.

Student evaluations are LJL and probably shouldn't be relied on for anything important, which just goes to show that even when libs reach the right conclusion they use the wrong logic to get there. This must be what it feels like when Thomas or Scalia concurs with a majority lib opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637533)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: amber demanding alpha

Even though the male professor’s identical online course had a lower average final grade than the woman’s course, the man received higher evaluation scores on almost every question and in almost every category

LMAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637535)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: fragrant center roast beef



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: misunderstood know-it-all deer antler telephone



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637705)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:48 PM
Author: indecent swashbuckling stain

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637715)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:51 PM
Author: Beady-eyed big-titted gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637729)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: geriatric potus goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637775)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: spectacular jet-lagged kitchen preventive strike

COMMANDING RESPECT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637847)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Beady-eyed big-titted gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637671)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: Flatulent pit old irish cottage

Lol who do they think are commenting on the female profs’ clothes?

Other bitches. Boys don’t notice.

Women savage other women, news at 11

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637763)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: geriatric potus goyim

women forgot their place. and minorities are uppity. tell me im wrong, ill fight you for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637765)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: olive yarmulke fortuitous meteor



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: cobalt charismatic space

did they control for presentation ability and teaching ability? if not, then how come they are not addressing the most significant potential explanatory factors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637803)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: boyish pungent feces house

Obviously those were implemented as constants :)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637956)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: frum heady theater foreskin

I'm kind of surprised that attractive female professors don't skew this in the other direction. I guess this proves chicks read and write these more than dudes? I seem to remember these being used for two purposes: 1) check how hard a grader prof. is, and 2) if female find out if she's hot. I remember the easiest way to search for a hot female prof was just to sort by overall highest rated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637921)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: spectacular jet-lagged kitchen preventive strike

What percentage of female professors do you imagine are attractive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637924)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: autistic parlour clown

A lot of the grad students are pretty fetching and these days that's a lot of the "professors." Or at least were fetching when I went to undergrad. The modal grad student might now be a purple-haired hambeast idk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35637949)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: Crawly newt

y? ratemyprofessors.com has a hotness rating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35638815)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: galvanic french jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922809&forum_id=2#35638819)