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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: sadistic swashbuckling candlestick maker persian can’t wait till a bunch of (((lawyers))) get involved and set our driverless future back so that they can make some money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35637855) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: primrose garrison fortuitous meteor driverless cars will never be prevalent on roadways as we understand them (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35637900) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: chest-beating giraffe This happens every day in nyc multiple times. Only difference is that people are driving the cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35637908) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Bull headed glittery theatre azn Local news shows a mangled up bike, but the article refers to walking.
Can't use audio right now, so I'm not sure what's going on. |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM Author: aqua plaza Do people actually think that self-driving cars are going to take over in the foreseeable future? Like 10-15 years? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35638877) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: bonkers home Yes, people who live in major urban centers and have no idea what happens outside of them seriously believe that driverless infrastructure is just around the corner (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35638904) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:38 PM Author: insane area it's not inconceivable that you could have the infrastructure in a large metro area. you'll just have to be prepared to operate the car on manual if you leave, it snows, etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35638915) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: aqua plaza ljl. Yes that's the big concern right now, operating it on manual when needed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639134) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Flickering startled black woman library take over? no be prevalent almost everywhere? yes |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Brass provocative hissy fit good/interesting take
This is what's going to happen. If you've ever seen a machine learning algorithm in action, this isn't surprising at all. Basically, they'll behave as expected some well known percentage of the time. But when they don't, the result will not be just a slight deviation from the normal algorithm, but a very unexpected one. So we will have overall a much smaller number of deaths caused by self driving cars, but ones that do happen will be completely unexpected and scary and shitty. You can't really get away from this without putting these cars on rails.
Moreover, the human brain won't like processing these freak accidents. People die in car crashes every damn day. But we have become really accustomed to rationalizing that: "they were struck by a drunk driver", "they were texting", "they didn't see the red light", etc. These are "normal" reasons for bad accidents and we can not only rationalize them, but also rationalize how it wouldn't happen to us: "I don't drive near colleges where young kids are likely to drive drunk", "I don't text (much) while I drive", "I pay attention".
But these algorithms will not fail like that. Each accident will be unique and weird and scary. I won't be surprised if someone at some point wears a stripy outfit, and the car thinks they are a part of the road, and tries to explicitly chase them down until they are under the wheels. Or if the car suddenly decides that the road continues at a 90 degree angle off a bridge. Or that the splashes from a puddle in front is actually an oncoming car and it must swerve into the school kids crossing the perpendicular road. It'll always be tragic, unpredictable and one-off. |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:12 PM Author: Flickering startled black woman library ban self driving cars. to save kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639223) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Mind-boggling cobalt rigpig site *self-driving Uber maxes out the stereo volume on "Taking Care of Business" and revs its engine while facing a busy school crosswalk* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639263) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: aqua plaza Yup. And if these events keep happening as research progresses it's going to REALLY slow it down.
Wonder what Uber's liability will be. Guess it could set the precedent for self driving car liability |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone comical water buffalo public bath *self-driving Uber texts fellow autonomous vehicle "So should we invite Jill to brunch on Sund" as it plows over a pedestrian* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639544) |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Laughsome fanboi so how do robot drivers compare vs. human drivers %wise .000001% fatalities vs. 50%? |
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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:50 PM Author: Laughsome fanboi how many self driving car fatalities have there been even in their experimental stage? literally 2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922857&forum_id=2#35639994) |
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Date: June 22nd, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Bull headed glittery theatre azn Report: Uber driver was watching 'The Voice' moments before fatal Tempe crash
The driver behind the wheel of an autonomous Uber vehicle that fatally struck a woman in Tempe in March was watching "The Voice" via a streaming service in the minutes leading up to the crash, a police report says. |