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NYT: Institutional racism forces even rich black males into poverty

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whats the best argument for why black bros are falling behin...
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"you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability...
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These studies are always flawed
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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

The study, based on anonymous earnings and demographic data for virtually all Americans now in their late 30s, debunks a number of other widely held hypotheses about income inequality. Gaps persisted even when black and white boys grew up in families with the same income, similar family structures, similar education levels and even similar levels of accumulated wealth.

The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research.

A more likely possibility, the authors suggest, is that test scores don’t accurately measure the abilities of black children in the first place.

If this inequality can’t be explained by individual or household traits, much of what matters probably lies outside the home — in surrounding neighborhoods, in the economy and in a society that views black boys differently from white boys, and even from black girls.

“One of the most popular liberal post-racial ideas is the idea that the fundamental problem is class and not race, and clearly this study explodes that idea,” said Ibram Kendi, a professor and director of the Antiracist Research and Policy Center at American University. “But for whatever reason, we’re unwilling to stare racism in the face.”

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/03/19/upshot/race-class-white-and-black-men.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638169)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:56 PM
Author: Maroon Deranged Volcanic Crater



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: Maroon Deranged Volcanic Crater

"The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said (((David Grusky))), a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."

Link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638175)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Fishy Nighttime Dilemma

I take it nyt readers never take even one second to think about what they just read.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638191)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Lemon travel guidebook

Uh, pretty sure every IQ study done has shown that the AVERAGE female IQ is the same as the average male (but with a lower standard deviation). Fuck this strawmanning faggit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638239)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Amethyst disturbing library

The black women in the study matched the income and wealth of white women at similar income thresholds. Black men had a wide gap with white men at all incomes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638322)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: brindle brunch boiling water

black women are dumb

black men are dumb and violent

its much harder to AA a convict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638922)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: rusted stirring milk center

you can't make those kinds of comparisons in a workforce where affirmative action policies exist. it sounds like as the workforce has become more feminized, employers prefer to bestow AA upon black women more than black men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638938)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Doobsian translucent base



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy scourge upon the earth



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:14 PM
Author: Effete razzle goal in life karate

Plus you might expect, all else equal, black women from UMC families to be MORE work-oriented when compared to white female counterparts to account for precisely the phenomenon the study identifies; namely, that white men from similarly-matched economic backgrounds earn more than black men. That might lead, where black women earning is even a "thing," them to prefer to take care of themselves since their men sure as hell aren't taking care of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35640925)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: up-to-no-good sneaky criminal

If his hypothesis is that institutional racism forces rich black males into poverty, shouldn't it also force rich black females into poverty to the same degree? The fact that it doesn't undermines his point, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639308)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

I guess his point is, there's double reverse Big Willie style racism against black males?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639315)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Hateful pozpig

what do libs expect when they crusade against "toxic masculinity"? the highest T group to emerge unscathed? LOL @ shitlibs never not wanting it both ways.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639353)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: racy degenerate

It's 180.00000000 when libs tie themselves into knots over this. "Catcalling is literally Hitler" vs. "Complaining about catcalling is racist" is a major dividing line.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639387)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: racy degenerate

As near as I can tell it's just a selective demand for rigor.

"I don't believe explanation A that I disfavor because there's no proof. I favor explanation B that also doesn't have proof, so let's go with B."

Slatestar codex wrote a good piece on this nonsense: http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/14/beware-isolated-demands-for-rigor/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639338)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:42 PM
Author: Charismatic carmine stage

In other words, those who define the null hypothesis usually win the argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641145)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Harsh heaven

director of Antiracist Research & Policy jfc lord take me now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638183)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 5:06 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy scourge upon the earth



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: Magenta queen of the night locale

This, along with the other thread about disparities in punishment between black and white students in Minnesota shows that shitlibism is a religion. Shitlibs are presented with a set of facts and they force those facts into their narrative regardless of whether the facts support the narrative or not. Libs jumping up and down on facts, breaking limbs, etc. until they fit in the cube.

Well, maybe the earth actually revolves around the sun.... Fucking heretic! That clearly is not how God works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638212)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac corner



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

So I guess racism only affects black men now at least, so we've made some good progress.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638217)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Harsh heaven

black girl magic would have at least doubled wypepo female achievement if not for racism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638227)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Brass national windowlicker

I honestly believe black women are on balance better people than white women

Edit: really women of any race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638427)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Charismatic carmine stage

Black women are solid. They do most of the work in West Africa.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641157)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Harsh heaven

whats the best argument for why black bros are falling behind here?

If it is racism then can we conclude black women are not subject to racism?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638222)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Orange Circlehead Hunting Ground

This might sound crazy, but perhaps they make different choices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638229)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

Men in the US have less of a safety net in general than women, which makes sense in a western society designed by/for white people. It doesn't work well for black men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638246)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: autistic awkward forum skinny woman

explain

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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Provocative gas station gaming laptop

black women receive double AA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638251)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: sapphire 180 orchestra pit

intersectionality of AA means it's more than double

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638540)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: slate affirmative action

intersectionality means each type of victim status raises your victimhood level to another power. black + female means ^2, black disabled female means ^3, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638858)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Provocative gas station gaming laptop



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: Magenta queen of the night locale

It is racism but black women are so strong and magical that they rise above the racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638255)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: self-centered useless new version nursing home

I'd guess a key factor is that black women get more education, which lets them take advantage of AA hiring.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638575)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: vermilion floppy dog poop

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641026)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:29 PM
Author: federal indian lodge

Several things:

1) Literally bling and rims.

2) Black guys are more likely to be heads of households, because every black guy with a good education is a huge catch, so he's supporting/feeding other mouths and spouse with activist low salary job. Also black UMC families do that dumb thing where they buy the nice remodel in a black neighborhood to not be sellouts and that kills their net worth. Meanwhile single black females can buy or rent cheaper in white neighborhoods because they prioritize safety, feed/clothe only themselves, no daycare, etc.

3) Per above, double AA means checks two boxes, plus mid-20s through early 30s is child bearing years, so much harder to fire for incompetence and much easier to keep around to populate various gender equality and diversity initiatives.

4) Guys who advance are expected to be visible and vocal to affirm that they've bought in. A quiet guy is viewed as stand-offish and "not a leader" in a professional setting. It's a weird by product of the 50 years representation and inclusion initiatives, but a quiet, under the radar black guy now makes white managers uncomfortable like they're favoring the striver white dudes over him. A quiet woman who doesn't drastically harm the business with her work product and who checks a URM box is doing exactly what she's supposed to do, and is less likely to make management uncomfortable with her low profile, especially if she's leaving to have babies all the time. But a black guy who gets too passionate in the workplace also makes white people (especially old white people) uncomfortable. It's just a trickier needle to thread for black guys in the early career stages where you need to have mentors and champions to move up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639378)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: racy degenerate

The authors, including the Stanford economist Raj Chetty and two census researchers, Maggie R. Jones and Sonya R. Porter, tried to identify neighborhoods where poor black boys do well, and as well as whites.

“The problem,” Mr. Chetty said, “is that there are essentially no such neighborhoods in America.”

The few neighborhoods that met this standard were in areas that showed less discrimination in surveys and tests of racial bias. They mostly had low poverty rates. And, intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.

intriguingly, these pockets — including parts of the Maryland suburbs of Washington, and corners of Queens and the Bronx — were the places where many lower-income black children had fathers at home. Poor black boys did well in such places, whether their own fathers were present or not.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638277)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Maroon Deranged Volcanic Crater



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

I assume these areas are places where most of the blacks and "whites" are recent immigrants

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638293)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Underhanded athletic conference



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Amethyst disturbing library

Yeah, that was definitely an interesting finding. It's not just having a dad in your household but a neighborhood where dads of your race are around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638307)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: racy degenerate

CR. If there's ten families and nine dads, then it's nbd for the neighborhood to pick up the slack. If there's ten families and one dad, then obviously he can't parent ten kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638343)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: self-centered useless new version nursing home

I'm not sure a slack absorption mechanism makes sense in a Bowling Alone world of civic isolation. Could be pure role modeling.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638363)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: slate affirmative action

Bowling Alone makes the one father on the block of ten families even less effectual as a role model. and no, pastor johnson, making pro-social "family man" posts for all to see on social media does not mitigate

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638872)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:49 PM
Author: Ebony school cafeteria

hmm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638554)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Big piazza

WHAT A SHOCK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638918)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Vibrant space

I didn't see impulse control as a variable controlled for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638278)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:14 PM
Author: Maroon Deranged Volcanic Crater



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: self-centered useless new version nursing home

"you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women"

The article says they controlled for family education. What about the child's education?

It's well known that black women get higher education at rates far above those of black men. An applicant can't benefit from AA if the applicant doesn't get in the door in the first place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638320)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Hateful pozpig

These studies are always flawed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638372)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: Amethyst disturbing library

Ok, but what's causing black males to fall behind or not "get in the door in the first place" as you put it? That's the question raised by the study.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638393)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: self-centered useless new version nursing home

I'd guess that the education gap between black men and black women is likely caused by something in black culture. Earl's impulse control suggestion (which has some support, I think) is another possibility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638412)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Amethyst disturbing library

Another interesting tidbit. Children of Asian immigrants climbed the ladder quickly no matter where they start with regards to family income/wealth/education, but asians born here are no better than whites in income mobility.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638373)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Provocative gas station gaming laptop

non-fob ones get fat,lazy, and Americanized, are too busy pwning white cunnus to strive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638470)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: passionate bespoke cruise ship dragon

this is more about immigrant families than asians. pretty sure first generation blacks who were born to african immigrants do much better than blacks who have been here for generations. and so on

part of it is self selection but mostly its about how immigrants run their household vs american parents

not interesting or surprising

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638481)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638828)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Vibrant space

Asian Americans assimilate quite well after the first generation.

There is only one ethnic group that actively resists assimilation for any reason, despite succeeding in the countries where they settle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638844)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: hairraiser low-t trailer park

which group?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639397)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: federal indian lodge

So you admit that Jews are better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639417)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Brass national windowlicker

Need to see how they define accumulated family wealth they claim to take into account.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638526)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: supple crackhouse telephone



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Trip impertinent round eye goyim

It’s culture. Boys are much more likely to become thugs and act out than girls, especially when their dads aren’t around.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638838)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: henna out-of-control sandwich

cr even when blacks are successful their kids are reset to the mean by IQ, very sad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35638880)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: Doobsian translucent base

You misspelled biology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639583)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

The point is, it's not that hard for a low-IQ woman to still live a pretty decently comfortable life in America. They can get married. They can get money from the government more easily. They're less likely to do dumb, risky shit.

There are a lot of mechanisms geared toward helping them. It's a lot harder for a low-IQ man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639365)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: henna out-of-control sandwich

correct, black women grasp AA with both hands & just deal with their lot in life better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639390)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: puce resort faggot firefighter

noble compared to a lot of these wagecucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639413)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: autistic awkward forum skinny woman

"The disparities that remain also can’t be explained by differences in cognitive ability, an argument made by people who cite racial gaps in test scores that appear for both black boys and girls. If such inherent differences existed by race, “you’ve got to explain to me why these putative ability differences aren’t handicapping women,” said David Grusky, a Stanford sociologist who has reviewed the research."

I do not understand what the author is getting at here.

Edit: NM. I get he's saying that if it were an IQ thing then the results would apply to both black men and black women, but they only apply to black men.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639394)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: exhilarant bbw lay

You've got to explain it to him. Help him out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35639405)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: swollen demanding location mediation

but did he compare by high/low IQ for whites and other non-blacks? or is he cherry-picking by only looking at black women? in other words, couldn't any lower IQ black women have something that lets them somewhat escape the downward fate that all other low IQ people face?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35644053)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 7:58 PM
Author: Poppy Vivacious Hall

Lol yes it’s “institutional racism” that is to blame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35640838)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:25 PM
Author: Effete razzle goal in life karate

(1) There are more jobs "available," i.e. often chosen (or, if you prefer, open to those who can actually do the work), that monetarily reward high intelligence for men than there are for women.

(2) Along with (1), men have a higher SD in most traits, including intelligence, than women. It's easier to see that at the right end of the income curve than at the left for obvious reasons.

(3) The fact that black men fall behind white men, as the study is concerned with demonstrating, exerts additional pressure on black women to earn that white women do not feel, given that white men typically pair with white women, and black men typically pair with black women.

(4) Black women are less likely than white women to be married, a phenomenon that exists at all income levels, which exacerbates the phenomenon in (2).

(5) Black women receive AA, which significantly boosts the income they would otherwise receive if they were hired, as white women are, based on whether they can perform the job, which of course ties to intelligence, conscientiousness, etc.

(6) There are a *lot* of black women in government with union-guaranteed pay increases. I'd be willing to wager the per capita government employment rate, when looking at anything above say a $40K+ annual HHI during childhood, would reflect that.

(7) Muh racism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641006)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:36 PM
Author: vermilion floppy dog poop

Obviously more women in school. But also, and no shitlib, black men are more likely to have police run ins that leave them with records that make school or fed jobs impossible. A few weed possession or assault charges that a cop would ignore of a white kid could get expunged may have lasting consequences. This is also fueled by societal expectations for black doods to be high T thug lifers.

Pretty sure even XO racists would admit non-African immigrant black males are at the bottom of the US social ladder.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641092)



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Date: March 19th, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: Vibrant space

lol, most people don't have a few expunged assault charges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3922896&forum_id=2#35641170)