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Petition to convince DTP to try out Testosterone Replacement Therapy

I am a full-natty bro, but I'm very knowledgeable about AAS ...
razzle stage
  03/20/18
Some scholarship on TRt for depresssion: https://www.ncbi.n...
razzle stage
  03/20/18
"Based on whether the patients received TRT (injection ...
Trip market lettuce
  03/21/18
Yes it is.
razzle stage
  03/21/18
Flame? A placebo would be injecting patients with the lipid ...
Trip market lettuce
  03/21/18
That would be a much much much better placebo. Any benig...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
...
razzle stage
  03/20/18
Isn't it cardiotoxic
exciting property
  03/20/18
No. Going beyond the recommended dose is bad for you hea...
razzle stage
  03/20/18
Yes, highly
olive step-uncle's house therapy
  03/21/18
*slightly and benefits may outweight risks because low testo...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
i will look into this more some preliminary questions: ...
Kink-friendly jap
  03/20/18
Go to LifeExtenion.com, buy a test and go to a local labcorp...
razzle stage
  03/20/18
i think there's a good chance i'm in the middle or upper ran...
Kink-friendly jap
  03/21/18
If you are in solid middle or upper middle range, then I thi...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
Is there a benefit doing it the testing and test via a local...
Electric lilac church filthpig
  03/21/18
If you do it through health insurance, you need to go throug...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
do not use testosterone retard
olive step-uncle's house therapy
  03/21/18
You don't think curing his depression / anxiety is worth som...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
because testosterone abusers are very stable emotionally?
olive step-uncle's house therapy
  03/21/18
I'm recommending TRT if he meets the clinical criteria. ...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
I really need to look into this.
Carnelian Party Of The First Part Meetinghouse
  03/20/18
...
razzle stage
  03/21/18
spin, ratfucks
walnut cruise ship
  03/21/18
LJL -- a High T bro would never shoot up a school.
razzle stage
  03/21/18
spin, ratfucks
walnut cruise ship
  03/21/18
...
indigo disrespectful potus piazza
  03/21/18
Wilbur Mercer forcememing "Testosterone = Poison" ...
Trip market lettuce
  03/21/18
If you do TRT, are you stuck for life pinning and doing regu...
Trip market lettuce
  03/21/18
Testosterone Unecanoate will be approved in the US soon. You...
razzle stage
  03/21/18


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Date: March 20th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: razzle stage

I am a full-natty bro, but I'm very knowledgeable about AAS / PEDs / TRT / etc. Ask away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35647751)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: razzle stage

Some scholarship on TRt for depresssion:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5209560/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35647762)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Trip market lettuce

"Based on whether the patients received TRT (injection with 1,000 mg testosterone undecanoate) or a placebo (advice to modify lifestyle), the study population was divided into a TRT group (n=54) and a control group (n=52)."

That is not a fucking placebo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654588)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:53 PM
Author: razzle stage

Yes it is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654673)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: Trip market lettuce

Flame? A placebo would be injecting patients with the lipid vehicle that the t-ester is in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654683)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: razzle stage

That would be a much much much better placebo.

Any benign treatment counts as a placebo though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654699)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:02 PM
Author: razzle stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648040)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: exciting property

Isn't it cardiotoxic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648051)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: razzle stage

No.

Going beyond the recommended dose is bad for you heart because testosterone generally is associated with higher rates of heart disease -- but "cardiotoxic" is the wrong term.

Also, overall physiological improvements from TRT appear to outweigh the negative effects on the heart. That said, you should be sure to have a very good diet if you're on TRT. Also be sure to get the higher resolution cholesterol tests than can differentiate between the different types of LDL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648065)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: olive step-uncle's house therapy

Yes, highly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654479)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: razzle stage

*slightly and benefits may outweight risks because low testosterone highly correlates with risk of death.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4412415/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654552)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: Kink-friendly jap

i will look into this more

some preliminary questions:

is this getting it from the black market, or from a prescription? i'm pretty sure i don't have actual low T

is it an injection with a needle or are there other delivery mechanisms?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648053)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: razzle stage

Go to LifeExtenion.com, buy a test and go to a local labcorp. Get the basic male hormone panel. If you're concerned about hair and/or take finasteride, be sure to also get your DHT tested.

If you're legit in the middle or upper half of the normal range, don't bother with TRT.

If you're in the bottom of or below the range, give it a shot.

I've you're in the normal range, when you go to the doc for testing, go out drinking the night before and then do a heavy deadlift+Squat workout that morning. You will show up on the test with the Ttest levels of a 5 year old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648081)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: Kink-friendly jap

i think there's a good chance i'm in the middle or upper range. you're saying i should BYPASS that and get a positive result anyway?

why not just get it from underground sources?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654429)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: razzle stage

If you are in solid middle or upper middle range, then I think it's a toss up whether it's worth trying out. You will need a higher dose to get anything out of it, and that has additional risks.

UG lab test sucks. It's loaded with alcohol to keep it safe and that will cause lots of pain and immune system response. And it still will likely give you an infection eventually.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654468)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Electric lilac church filthpig

Is there a benefit doing it the testing and test via a local LabCorp than if you can do it on your health insurance? (Still trying to navigate/understand the us health system). Thanks!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654485)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: razzle stage

If you do it through health insurance, you need to go through doc. The whole point is to avoid going through the doc for the first time until you get a sense of where you're out and how/whether you need to game the system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654497)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: olive step-uncle's house therapy

do not use testosterone retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654481)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: razzle stage

You don't think curing his depression / anxiety is worth some slight increase risk of heart disease?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654533)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: olive step-uncle's house therapy

because testosterone abusers are very stable emotionally?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654547)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: razzle stage

I'm recommending TRT if he meets the clinical criteria.

Also -- it's coming off gear, and using various more androgenic compounds that may lead to emotional instability.

TRT users become much more emotionally stable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654580)



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Date: March 20th, 2018 7:05 PM
Author: Carnelian Party Of The First Part Meetinghouse

I really need to look into this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35648062)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: razzle stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654414)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: walnut cruise ship

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654452)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: razzle stage

LJL -- a High T bro would never shoot up a school.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654475)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: walnut cruise ship

spin, ratfucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654567)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: indigo disrespectful potus piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654464)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Trip market lettuce

Wilbur Mercer forcememing "Testosterone = Poison" ITT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654574)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Trip market lettuce

If you do TRT, are you stuck for life pinning and doing regular blood work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654577)



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Date: March 21st, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: razzle stage

Testosterone Unecanoate will be approved in the US soon. You only need injection once every 6 months. Or you can do it orally every day. (Safe since it absorbs through lymphatic system and not liver)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3923974&forum_id=2#35654597)