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Please evaluate the enclosed excerpt from Vox's "article" on affirmative action
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:51 PM Author: amethyst address And as Slate’s Jamelle Bouie pointed out on Twitter, affirmative action policies like those at Penn Law (the parameters of which can be reviewed here) would impact admissions, not grades or whether a degree is issued. Meaning that to suspect a minority job applicant would be less qualified, even with a degree from a leading institution, would not be, in fact, “rational” but would be, as Paul Ryan might say, “the textbook definition of a racist comment.”
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17143150/conservative-scientific-racism-national-review |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:52 PM Author: startled autistic becky lulz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655299) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:38 PM Author: Maize point brethren I don't even understand that the point is *supposed* to be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655725) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:44 PM Author: cerebral sick station ape His "point" is supposed to be that, once everyone is admitted, everyone should have an equal chance of getting good grades (regardless of the differing standards they were admitted by) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655772) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:47 PM Author: Maize point brethren "should" or "does"?
Like, I can't tell if the author thinks that a literal retard and a genius are actually "equally qualified" if Penn hands them both the same piece of paper, or something that law school grades are actually evenly distributed without correlation to undergrad grades and test scores, or something else entirely. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:19 PM Author: nubile jet double fault lol @ this cartoon world. These people are too dumb to live (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656099) |
Date: March 21st, 2018 5:55 PM Author: Unholy hell ratface Haha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655336) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 5:56 PM Author: Frisky hilarious stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655346) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:02 PM Author: amethyst address look at the bar passage rates by race. no one actually believes this shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655412) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:02 PM Author: amethyst address Let's try to unpack these assumptions here
1. The application and acceptance process is totally divorced from the quality of the end product
2. The application and acceptance process is totally divorced from the performance of students in the course of achieving that end product (here, graduation)
3. Though protected by privacy concerns, and rightfully so, there is strong evidence that affirmative action students' performance is no lower than that of students admitted normally |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:37 PM Author: Turquoise talking doctorate abode too much logic, you are a racist, sir. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655715) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:04 PM Author: fragrant magical shrine codepig Imagine you have a class of 100 students. 25 get A's, 50 get B's and 25 get C's. You only graduate with a B or better.
Suppose grades happen to be correlated with IQ. The highest grade was given to someone with a 140 iq, the lowest to someone with a 90 iq, with steps of .5 points in between.
Then the University started requiring people with low IQs be admitted. 50% of the students were from the low IQ initiative.
After a year, grades still tracked IQ, and the highest grade was awarded to someone with a 140 IQ. But now the person that received the lowest grade had an iq of only 40, with 1 point increments in between.
Clearly, the intelligence requirements for neither receiving a certain grade nor graduating were effected.
Except now you only need an IQ of 65 to graduate, where previously you needed a 102.5 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Spectacular fishy queen of the night (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655668) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:09 PM Author: Offensive Locale Author: http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Jane+Coaston+MTV+News+Election+Night+People+8kNL8WO4O5Ol.jpg (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655455) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:09 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Can't really blame her for the poor reasoning - she benefited from AA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655461) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:19 PM Author: nubile jet double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656101) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:20 PM Author: Frisky hilarious stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655540) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:27 PM Author: fuchsia son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655609) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: light multi-colored library ((())) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655660) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Stimulating site degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656059) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:19 PM Author: nubile jet double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656102) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:50 PM Author: Slate arrogant sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35657011) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:21 PM Author: fragrant magical shrine codepig She must not know law school is graded on a curve. Though degradation of competition and therefore qualifications at a given grade point average would likely hold in the absence of a curve anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655553) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Magenta galvanic karate WE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655581) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:21 PM Author: Sadistic bearded mediation I can't distinguish disingenuous from dumb anymore and it's becoming frustrating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655549) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Offensive Locale With her, it's dumb.
If it's Ezra Klein, its disingenuous (((agenda))) pushing. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: Offensive Locale ACtually maybe not.
Turns out Ezra Klein went to TTT UCLA, which actually has a LOWER average SAT than Tufts and Northeastern. Not only that - he TRASNFERED into UCLA from UC Santa Cruz.
He had high high school GPA, so chances are he has MAX a 1150-1200 SAT. So he's only like 115 IQ. Average for a jew, but not smart enough to easily understand most abstract reasoning.
For context, someone with a 1150 SAT probably will get around a 150-155 on the LSAT. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:41 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Ezra Klein = retard Yglesias (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655741) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Offensive Locale Yglesias is reasonably smart. He is just very mentally ill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655750) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Sure - sorry, I was unclear, I was saying Klein is the dumbass version of Yglesias. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655767) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM Author: Offensive Locale You were clear. I'm just multi-tasking between emails and poasting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655839) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:51 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Biz idea: xo outlook plugin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655852) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:12 PM Author: Offensive Locale LJL. I'm not some boomer / Gen Xer. I use GMAIL nigga. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:22 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Wow, I'm still on email, didn't even know they got up to fmail. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656117) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:29 PM Author: Mustard charismatic theater FMA I lol'd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656184) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: indigo motley famous landscape painting If the author's a Jew, they know what they do (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655674) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:32 PM Author: appetizing digit ratio trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655651) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:26 PM Author: Chestnut arousing milk regret so 3/4 of the article is ad hom attack, 1/8 is you dont have evidence either, and 1/8 is citing to retard Jamelle Bouie who somehow ignores the missing link between admissions, grades and success when saying that having a degree from Penn removes doubt that you are unqualified because of AA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655597) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:22 PM Author: nubile jet double fault (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656127) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:04 PM Author: amethyst address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656533) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:31 PM Author: copper thriller mood half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656826) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:48 PM Author: Yapping mahogany home messiness but paul ryan would agree! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656989) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:49 PM Author: amethyst address *reserves right to indentify Paul Ryan as a racist at a later date* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35657000) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:31 PM Author: Trip Round Eye Indirect Expression I guess she isn't aware that it is impossible to flunk out of law school. And I'm sure she would view a black summa grad as equivalent to the last student in the class because both have degrees. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655641) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:33 PM Author: amethyst address Please evaluate as well xo Glenn Loury's take
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1433339190111822&id=100003072643308 |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:39 PM Author: Mustard charismatic theater Libs? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656283) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:29 PM Author: Concupiscible theatre nibblets well god fucking damn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656805) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:36 PM Author: amethyst address He's interviewing her again next week. We'll see what unfolds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656872) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:34 PM Author: amethyst address Black Lives Matter leader: Penn has to fire ‘racist’ professor John N. Mitchell Tribune Staff Writer Mar 17, 2018 12
Save Asa Khalif, leader of Black Lives Matter (BLM) Pennsylvania, doesn’t believe the demotion of controversial University of Pennsylvania Law School professor Amy Wax is enough.
He wants her fired, and if this doesn’t happen within a week’s time, he plans to make things on the West Philadelphia campus very uncomfortable.
Khalif said he has reached out to Penn and notified the university that if Wax, who has suggested that African-American students are inferior, is not fired he will begin disrupting classes and other campus activities with a wave of protests that could begin as soon as Friday.
“Anyone with the types of beliefs she holds teaching Black and brown students is a danger to them and their future,” Khalif told The Tribune on Friday. “We are unwavering in our one demand that she be fired. Based on her beliefs and the things she has said, she is a threat to Black and brown students.” |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:50 PM Author: cerebral sick station ape Why does "black" get to be capitalized but not "brown"? Seems pretty racist. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655836) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:54 PM Author: Cyan puppy Lol. I hope BLM conducts massive riots with looting over this. Just more proof of chimps chimpin’. Would be great for the nigger image (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656435) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 9:08 PM Author: amber spot Khalif said he has reached out to Penn and notified the university that if Wax, who has pointed out the fact that people who belong to low-average-IQ races get affirmative action which has obvious results, is not fired he will begin violently chimping out as soon as Friday. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35657118) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM Author: cerebral sick station ape The endgame of all this will just be official AA for grades too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655694) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:37 PM Author: amethyst address It was ALL predicted by that federal judge in the 60s. You know what I am talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655713) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:42 PM Author: Wine chapel lettuce Macklin Fleming. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655754) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:43 PM Author: Magenta galvanic karate cr that guy was a visionary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655759) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:35 PM Author: Turquoise talking doctorate abode vox, where up is down and to say otherwise is irrational and illegal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655696) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 6:39 PM Author: hot area Unresponsive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35655730) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 7:11 PM Author: amethyst address (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656025) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:22 PM Author: chartreuse field I served on the hiring committee at my old firm and we had a whole song and dance around this issue. We required resumes to omit GPAs and for candidates to submit copies of transcripts. We weeded out callbacks & offers with GPA as an input, but internal interviewers never got to see grades.
There were very explicitly two different GPA cutoffs for regular & diverse candidates, with quite a bit of daylight in between the two. |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:32 PM Author: copper thriller mood half-breed lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656832) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:41 PM Author: chartreuse field It was really lulzy when the tax group got stuck with a couple of duds and then strong armed the hiring committee into letting them see grades (they usually hired specificly identified tax nerds rather than just pulling some names from the pool post-summer). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656927) |
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Date: March 21st, 2018 8:23 PM Author: Racy whorehouse rigpig Stopped reading at “Jamelle Bouie” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3924926&forum_id=2#35656735) |