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Answers can be amended.
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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

Partner calls me with new case. She;s out of town on trial, asks if I've responded to a complaint before and if I can handle it. I tell her yes I have and I can (I haven't taken the lead but I have helped out on an answer). Its relatively small damages for biglaw which is why she probably felt comfortable asking a 2nd year (less than 5 million). Main allegation is breach of various duties by an investment advisor (and suing his company). Complaint is pretty short.

Her secretary gives me contact info for the client, who I call directly to discuss the complaint two weeks ago and how to draft the answer. I go through the whole history with the client, who was a VP or something idk, and we are talking for a while, pretty young guy.

I took a ton of notes and I'm asking him about business practices, the plaintiff, their company, everything. We set up another call a day later with the named investment advisor. He gives me the whole history basically acknowledging in several ways that the practices in the complaint are accurate but that he doesn't do that anymore and the company has since changed policy. Also the plaintiff lost money in a downturn economy (not U.S.) I email the partner detailed summary of our convo and she never responds to me.

There are zero grounds for a motion to dismiss so I draft the answer. For the non-lawyers reading this you can basically admit allegations, deny them, or say you need more info. If you know that the allegations are true though you should probably admit them. So that's how I drafted it, admitting the stuff that I confirmed they were doing, and saying not enough info for about 50% of it too. I email it to the partner a few days before its due. No response. On the day its due I file it (after emailing her again). I had a first year put another set of eyes on it before filing.

This afternoon she sent me an email in all caps "THIS CANT BE" and to call her immediately. I call her and she doesnt answer. She sends another email that says "everything...all liability...admitted...I can't believe what I am reading." Even though I SENT IT TO HER and she never responded and I drafted it exactly what the client told me (I took great notes). We still haven't talked by phone but I dont think its gonna be a great convo...

How big of an issue is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820857)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 5:01 PM
Author: Sable painfully honest casino

this is a big issue. your flame approach is totally off here.

first off, nobody would believe that a partner would let a 2nd year associate handle this soup to nuts. that was your big mistake, not setting a realistic premise.

but then you go out of your way to explain the law to non-lawyers. another red flag.

but the real stunner was how over the top you made her response: "THIS CANT BE" and "call her immediately" and then have her not answer but send an over the top email.

A for effort (due to length of the flame) but D- for execution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827086)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: bossy concupiscible faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829446)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: Ungodly Crotch Bawdyhouse

The "THIS CAN'T BE" line immediately (and vividly) made me think of a partner I once worked for. I could 100% read this whole exchange in her voice

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829675)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:18 PM
Author: Sable painfully honest casino

so the partner would be extremely outraged but then wouldn't return phone calls right after? doesn't add up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35871254)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 12:33 AM
Author: Erotic Coldplay Fan Coffee Pot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35837854)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: wine theatre knife

A partner probably wouldn't let a 2nd year associate handle this, but I could 100% believe a partner asking an associate to draft something, ignoring it completely, the associate needing to file something in order to avoid default, and the partner swooping in after the fact. You can't just blow deadlines, and it's better to have something inferior on file than nothing at all, but partners don't realize that this is often their fault.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863596)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: useless kitchen trust fund

In the case where associate admits liability in answer- this is not the case- probably better to have blown deadline

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863807)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: wine theatre knife

Sure, maybe, but no associate in the world is going to just blow a deadline. And besides, the partner sure as shit would lose their mind over that in the same way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863954)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: fragrant marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863835)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: sienna titillating rehab macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35866465)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Histrionic godawful corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35871190)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: floppy flirting dog poop space

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820880)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: amethyst excitant resort legal warrant

Why didn't you waive service and cop 60 days to respond?

Why did you do so much investigating right out of the gate?

You both messed up bigly. You'll eat it because you're the junior person. Who signed the answer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820934)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

Whats the waive service thing? She sent me the complaint.

I take initiative and had a call with the client. Thought that was standard procedure. Maybe by 'talk with the client about the answer' the partner didnt mean investigate all the allegations but thats what I did. In biglaw youre expected to take the lead

I e-signed the answer for her.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820954)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: amethyst excitant resort legal warrant

Is your resume up to date?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821004)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Confused ticket booth fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821277)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: vermilion big philosopher-king boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821548)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 8:15 AM
Author: boyish harsh center background story



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: peach pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829599)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: fragrant marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863843)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: vigorous dilemma love of her life

Flame, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35825405)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Rose exhilarant heaven sex offender

clearly her fault but youre fucked

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820951)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Confused ticket booth fat ankles



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: Jet Roast Beef Crackhouse

Nice flame. lol there is no way this is true.

If in the off-chance that this is not flame, ur rekt son

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820960)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: vermilion big philosopher-king boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821553)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: floppy flirting dog poop space

FYI: Don't put anything in writing. In the future, leave a vague VM about needing to discuss ASAP.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820968)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Brindle glittery parlour ratface

no he 100% wants a record that he sent it to the partner and that she didn't respond

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824459)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: Sick bespoke national security agency

when is the response to the motion for judgment on the pleadings due?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35820977)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: fantasy-prone exciting meetinghouse hominid

Answers can be amended.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821494)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: boyish harsh center background story

lol even so isn't an admission subsequently withdrawn usually admissible for cross examination purposes!?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824404)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: greedy domesticated principal's office

Judicial admission can't be withdrawn I thought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824412)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: stirring stock car mediation

not a litmo, but I'd think you would have to file a motion for leave to amend your answer in most jurisdictions. without a pretty good reason I don't see a judge letting you withdraw admissions just because you didn't want to admit shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824423)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: boyish harsh center background story

yep. still gotta get permission.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824440)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: dun school cafeteria

I thought within 14 days you had the ability to amend by right

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35826962)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Balding brilliant spot

21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827052)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Sick bespoke national security agency

Yah in fed ct. Nigga is still going to get fired. Partner probably won’t even respond within 21 days to the draft of the amended pleading so moot anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829403)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: up-to-no-good abode

I'd normally think you'd be in trouble, but since you had the first year give it fresh eyes you should be fine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821006)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: amethyst excitant resort legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821015)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Fighting galvanic giraffe



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Razzle Rigor Mad Cow Disease



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Date: April 12th, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: Avocado property tank



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: bossy concupiscible faggotry



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Bipolar ebony sound barrier



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: henna skinny woman hairy legs

are there sanctions if you just deny everything other than the facts? or deny as phrased?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821021)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:08 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

Yes, this is what Rule 11 says:

(b) Representations to the Court. By presenting to the court a pleading, written motion, or other paper—whether by signing, filing, submitting, or later advocating it—an attorney or unrepresented party certifies that TO THE BEST OF THE PERSON'S KNOWLEDGE, INFORMATION, AND BELIEF, formed after an inquiry reasonable under the circumstances:

(4) THE DENIALS OF FACTUAL CONTENTIONS ARE WARRANTED on the evidence or, if specifically so identified, are reasonably based on belief or a lack of information.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821176)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:10 PM
Author: Spectacular Stubborn French Chef

lulz

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824336)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: peach pocket flask

flame

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829594)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: boyish harsh center background story

yeah that's why you have to be slick about it. sprinkle in a trivial admission here and there and you should be able to clear that hurdle.

But what do I know I'm usually in state court. Same principle should apply though. Make it have enough little admissions to show you at least considered the shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824416)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Fighting galvanic giraffe

has to be flame. signs of flame:

didn’t get a brief extension of time to respond so you can get confirmation from partner

esigned for partner w/o her consent

didn’t deny anything remotely problematic for your client using some bs reason or say you don’t have anough info to admit or deny so deny.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821022)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Jet Roast Beef Crackhouse

telling the truth = flame in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821034)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:51 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

I was never told to get an extension. I was told to get a draft of an answer going.

I have signed for partners before on subpoenas and motions. This is standard practice.

Half of the complaint I said we didnt have enough info to respond. Including some allegations which frankly I should have admitted based on what I knew but I was protecting the client.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821063)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Jet Roast Beef Crackhouse

Luckily for you there will probably be legal grounds for summary judgment, even if the client has admitted material facts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821079)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: massive dragon location

Well thought out flame. Good work here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821035)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: Jet Roast Beef Crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821085)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:05 AM
Author: vermilion big philosopher-king boistinker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821554)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: Multi-colored Mint Associate

You had two weeks, didn't keep partner in the loop, didn't send her anything to review until 3 days prior to deadline, and what you sent was equivalent of "If I Did It, Here's How It Happened." Your opponent should give you a kickback.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821073)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 10:58 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

I emailed the partner THREE times. And it took a while to draft the answer on top of all my other work. She could have sent it to me sooner too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821120)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:19 PM
Author: odious boiling water

but you still waited until 3 days beforehand? i’ve never done litigation but it sounds like however much trouble you get into isn’t enough. this flame describes a guy with zero common sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867686)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: orange useless brakes

agree this flame was a bit too aggressive. but for others reading this thinking this is normal procedure: it's not. the fictional OP in this post should be fired a million times over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821133)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: White Filthy Newt

How hot is the partner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821234)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: arousing theater candlestick maker

"I had a first year put another set of eyes on it before filing."

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821253)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: Geriatric electric furnace

“Looks great! I just found a few nits.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821342)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: arousing theater candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821419)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 5:18 PM
Author: Pearl Doctorate Elastic Band

*italicizes periods*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827232)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 9:43 PM
Author: Balding brilliant spot

serious Q: are you supposed to do that? always wondered

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829242)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 9:44 PM
Author: tantric clown school

(first year)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829255)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: Sadistic contagious sandwich

(not flame) depends on the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829288)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:14 PM
Author: Histrionic godawful corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35871227)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: boyish harsh center background story



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824418)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Angry chestnut den antidepressant drug

Just file an amended answer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821400)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

thank you for an actual answer. This is what Im going to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821448)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: Supple stage

Yeah, she’s probably also pissed you forgot some key affirmative defenses (unclean hands anybody?).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821499)



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Date: April 11th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone turdskin

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821512)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Maroon dysfunction becky

Being a real lawyer seems like hell. If I had to spend hours on the phone with a client taking notes and stressing out over a fucking answer id blow my brains out. In my bigfed office the paralegals draft the answer and an attorney reviews it for 5 minutes before it's filed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821572)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: drab community account trump supporter

Well we are also paid 3X what you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35826957)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:31 AM
Author: hairraiser blue address

Litmos, as a tranny biglawywr who has never stepped into a courtroom or drafted a court document, why is this clearly flams? Aren’t partners notorious for this shit re: unavailability then freaking out at last second?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821666)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:42 AM
Author: Demanding walnut volcanic crater

No one would be so bold/retarded as to file an answer admitting liability without a partner looking at it. Survival instinct alone would tell you to get a continuance / avoid directly admitting anything / e-mailing partner something like "I am not comfortable filing this without your approval" and then just filing it late - it's not like you're going to get a default taken. It's just too insane.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821717)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: Chrome pervert forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821786)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:40 AM
Author: Awkward chad

Why is your boss a woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821701)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:50 AM
Author: obsidian irradiated library telephone

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35821752)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 8:16 AM
Author: boyish harsh center background story

Jfc. Ur just supposed to deny ever y thing except a couple of things that don't mean anything to make it look good faith. Come on, man.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35822548)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: bright provocative ladyboy

1. Corporation X is incorporated and Delaware and has a principal place of business of NY, NY.

ANSWER: Corporation X lacks the knowledge necessary to respond to this allegation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824299)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: dun school cafeteria

Exactly. If only you were the fresh set of eyes OP relied on!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35826958)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: bossy concupiscible faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863781)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Crystalline electric pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863984)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: mind-boggling rusted internal respiration wrinkle

just do general denial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35824452)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: vigorous dilemma love of her life

My state allows general denials in state court, and it is 180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35825460)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 8:27 AM
Author: stirring stock car mediation

this has to be flame, but entertaining nonetheless. my favorite part was "i had a first year put a second set of eyes on it"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35822569)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Ungodly Crotch Bawdyhouse

OP is just exercising his duties of ethics and professionalism. If you deny something in an answer and it later turns out to be true, you could be hauled before state bar disciplinary committee (happened to two kids in my class year).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35823622)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: vigorous dilemma love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35825468)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: bateful sanctuary messiness

Not a litmo but "I drafted it exactly what the client told me (I took great notes)" sometimes works in tranny for simple deals because often we're just a scrivener in those, but this sounds like it could be borderline malpractice for a litigator. You guys are supposed to save clients from themselves and their fuck ups for one thing, for a second, there's a reason he hired a lawyer and didn't do it pro se. You basically rubber stamped and procedurally spruced up what his draft would have been it sounds like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35825921)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: territorial aromatic potus home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35825937)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Angry chestnut den antidepressant drug

Correct; he committed malpractice by answering honestly rather than denying or avoiding bad facts despite knowing they are true. This is how lit works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827006)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: odious boiling water



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867692)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: drab community account trump supporter

Just amend your answer and change it to “DENY.” What’s the big deal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35826936)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: Balding brilliant spot

Lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827032)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 5:19 PM
Author: Pearl Doctorate Elastic Band

Should've jumped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827239)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 5:20 PM
Author: olive overrated stag film

lol @ a ham&egger like bloodacre running biglaw schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35827243)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:00 PM
Author: Talented state

Honesty is always the best policy so i think you did fine here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829379)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: Sick bespoke national security agency

Very cr. If you can’t handle the client at its worst you don’t deserve it at its best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829420)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: light lodge

LOL. Just file and amended answer within 21 days. Ask for leave outside of that. If opposing counsel tries to fuck your client on the admission, just have client answer “umm, not a lawyer, my lawyer drafted that... not sure why...” LOL at pinning a witness on line 75 of a pleading drafted by his lawyer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829409)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:05 PM
Author: peach pocket flask

lmao, great flame

Here is Ari Gold explaining how to do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJC7GCxlhwc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829417)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:16 PM
Author: bossy concupiscible faggotry

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829487)



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Date: April 12th, 2018 10:17 PM
Author: bossy concupiscible faggotry

e-mails should've been a pdf of the doc with "attached, thx"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35829496)



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Date: April 13th, 2018 5:11 PM
Author: Confused ticket booth fat ankles

Soooo......?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35835132)



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Date: April 13th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: bat-shit-crazy purple partner

Well that was fun. Not sure why they waited to Friday to fire me if it was really that big of a deal. Never even spoke with the junior partner who gave me the assignment. Fuller update coming later. Pretty pissed right now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35835153)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: Confused ticket booth fat ankles

Sorry for your lots.

Breathlessly awaiting update.

Hopefully, you're getting hammered right now, or doing lines off a strippers tits.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35837782)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: White Filthy Newt

How much severance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35837799)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: greedy domesticated principal's office

flame ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35837844)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: embarrassed to the bone turdskin

Please go on

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35866457)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 11:13 AM
Author: Confused ticket booth fat ankles

This was some solid flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35866769)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 11:48 AM
Author: Rose exhilarant heaven sex offender

lol biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867015)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: cream stimulating athletic conference



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867595)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: carmine vibrant house gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867691)



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Date: April 13th, 2018 5:25 PM
Author: House-broken brethren

can we get moar threads like this? thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35835216)



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Date: April 13th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: tantric clown school

Biglaw tales and crazy hypos are definitely missed parts of xo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35835306)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:30 PM
Author: useless kitchen trust fund

Every shitigator knkws the rules- deny deny deny deny then deny some more never admit anything unless absolutely necessary. This must be flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863814)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: Crystalline electric pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35863976)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 11:46 AM
Author: violet orchestra pit idea he suggested

It’s a serious mistake, but the type many second year lawyers will make. The partner is at fault for not catching it. You’ll take all the blame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867001)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:20 PM
Author: carmine vibrant house gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867695)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Appetizing point tattoo

reading the title made me sick with anxiety

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35867723)



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Date: April 18th, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: Sable painfully honest casino

for people still buying this flame. if this actually happened... a big law firm admitting something in an answer... this would be all over above the law and similar sites. THIS . DIDN'T . HAPPEN

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3946665&forum_id=2#35871303)