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How good was Barry Bonds in his prime?

On par with Mike Trout?
Narrow-minded motley kitty
  04/14/18
The best ever.
Emerald appetizing parlor
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jet-lagged property
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Multi-colored lime bbw windowlicker
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Yellow fanboi trailer park
  04/15/18
Had more intentional walks than entire teams combined
jet-lagged property
  04/14/18
he is #2 in career WAR behind Babe Ruth
chartreuse mind-boggling old irish cottage
  04/14/18
So good it was boring
Charismatic Coffee Pot
  04/14/18
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aromatic theater stage
  04/15/18
The best ever and it's not close. His IBB total in 2004 is a...
hot heady box office generalized bond
  04/15/18
1.422 OPS
Floppy twinkling wagecucks station
  04/15/18
He was as good as Mike Trout before the steroids. After ster...
coiffed corn cake
  04/15/18
He was better than Trout before the roids.
umber territorial depressive
  04/15/18
tbf, Bonds's peak came later. Trout's first 6 seasons > ...
Aquamarine house
  04/15/18
he was incredible, best guy in any sport ever
Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
  04/15/18
Some more crazy stats. No one other than Bonds since Ted...
coiffed corn cake
  04/15/18
I saw an away game with bonds in his prime and it was fuckin...
aqua pit
  04/15/18
Before he became a robot on roids he was awesome.
Jet balding jew twinkling uncleanness
  04/15/18
At his roid peak, managers would rather intentionally walk h...
Dun locus
  04/15/18
That happened once.
Charismatic Coffee Pot
  04/15/18
Thank you for confirming my poast.
Dun locus
  04/15/18
It's happened one other time in the modern era to Josh Hamil...
Charismatic Coffee Pot
  04/15/18
Better bat speed, hand-eye coordination and visual perceptio...
Yellow fanboi trailer park
  04/15/18
2017 NL MVP: .954 OPS Barry Bonds 22 year career: 1.051 OPS
Floppy twinkling wagecucks station
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gold arousing national
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jet-lagged property
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as good as lance "rafa" nadal on clay in his prime...
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beady-eyed corner
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saffron big resort
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Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution
  04/15/18
A 12 year old struck him out. He wasn’t that great
Sienna Violent International Law Enforcement Agency
  04/15/18
Don't even care about the roids. You think anyone could slam...
Brass diverse nursing home
  04/15/18
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Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
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Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution
  04/15/18
180, bonds is a legend and the best thing to ever happen in ...
rose garrison juggernaut
  04/15/18
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marvelous sable university candlestick maker
  04/15/18
Threads like these make me sad I didn't watch MLB just so I ...
vigorous base
  04/15/18
by the early 2000s you could sense opposing pitchers shittin...
Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
  04/15/18
GOAT, no real question about it. Best streak of hitting the...
Slate halford pisswyrm
  04/15/18
He doesn't get enough credit for his early career too - peop...
Aquamarine house
  04/15/18
jfc, Griffey Jr with 9.7 WAR losing out to Juan Gonzalez on ...
Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
  04/15/18
ARod was the credited choice at the time, though in hindsigh...
Brass diverse nursing home
  04/15/18
also lmao at that 96 mariners team barely being above averag...
Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
  04/15/18
I think their starting pitching outside of Big Unit was SPS
Brass diverse nursing home
  04/15/18
looked it up -- big unit was just ok . the rest of their sta...
Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike
  04/15/18
cue insane shitboomer faggots rambling about rbith
Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution
  04/15/18
40 HR/40 SB is absurd
Floppy twinkling wagecucks station
  04/15/18
(Alfonso Soriano)
stimulating sepia dysfunction newt
  04/15/18
there are eight members of the 300/300 club only one in the...
Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution
  04/15/18
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Yellow fanboi trailer park
  08/18/18
ran here to say that his "prime" was 90-92 with pi...
Peach Gaming Laptop Stain
  04/15/18
No they don’t. He would have been an all time great but peop...
Dashing chestnut sanctuary
  08/18/18
i am a SF giants fan and followed them closely from 2002 (mi...
jet-lagged property
  04/15/18
So u were a bandwagon fan that hopped on after they went to ...
Pale Seedy Gaping Abode
  08/18/18
He was basically God coming down to earth to play baseball
marvelous sable university candlestick maker
  04/15/18
Is there anything to the hot_take that his armor elbow, rath...
Henna Boyish Tanning Salon
  08/18/18
i think it's a cr take. you couldn't back him off the plate....
Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution
  08/18/18
He had babe Ruth type seasons when he was 38 years old
Dashing chestnut sanctuary
  08/18/18
Roided up, Bonds was the best hitter in baseball history.
doobsian bawdyhouse ladyboy
  08/18/18


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Date: April 14th, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: Narrow-minded motley kitty

On par with Mike Trout?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840529)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 3:53 PM
Author: Emerald appetizing parlor

The best ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840540)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: jet-lagged property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840578)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Multi-colored lime bbw windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840585)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:49 AM
Author: Yellow fanboi trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843758)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: jet-lagged property

Had more intentional walks than entire teams combined

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840580)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: chartreuse mind-boggling old irish cottage

he is #2 in career WAR behind Babe Ruth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840583)



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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Charismatic Coffee Pot

So good it was boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840604)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:55 AM
Author: aromatic theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843586)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:59 AM
Author: hot heady box office generalized bond

The best ever and it's not close. His IBB total in 2004 is almost triple the highest season ever for somebody not named Barry Bonds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843591)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:00 AM
Author: Floppy twinkling wagecucks station

1.422 OPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843592)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:17 AM
Author: coiffed corn cake

He was as good as Mike Trout before the steroids. After steroids he was a hitting freak such that it looked like he was playing a different game than anyone else.

For reference, here is a typical Trout statline

.310 BA, 33 home runs, .440 OBP, .570 slugging

Here is Bonds at his peak:

.350 BA, 50 home runs, .560 OBP, .800 slugging

--So the difference between peak Bonds and Trout is the difference between Trout and an average MLBer



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843622)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: umber territorial depressive

He was better than Trout before the roids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844208)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Aquamarine house

tbf, Bonds's peak came later. Trout's first 6 seasons > Bonds's first 6 seasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844281)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:20 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike

he was incredible, best guy in any sport ever

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843625)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:23 AM
Author: coiffed corn cake

Some more crazy stats.

No one other than Bonds since Ted Williams (50+ years). has had an OBP of greater than .500. Bonds did it 4 times, and had 1 time above 0.600.

Bonds has the 5 highest slugging percentages in a season. He leads with .8634. Babe Ruth is 6th with .7722. For reference, Mike Trout is number 163.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843631)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:48 AM
Author: aqua pit

I saw an away game with bonds in his prime and it was fucking exhilarating. like nothing else i've experienced as a sports spectator. the crowd went fucking insane every time he was up to bat. people screamed their lungs out and threw fake syringes and shit. Bonds hit 2 dingers that day. people killed each other to try and catch the hr balls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843755)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:54 AM
Author: Jet balding jew twinkling uncleanness

Before he became a robot on roids he was awesome.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843761)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:55 AM
Author: Dun locus

At his roid peak, managers would rather intentionally walk him with the bases loaded, walking in a run, rather than risk him hitting a hr. Which he pretty much would do in that situation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843765)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:38 AM
Author: Charismatic Coffee Pot

That happened once.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844049)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: Dun locus

Thank you for confirming my poast.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844051)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: Charismatic Coffee Pot

It's happened one other time in the modern era to Josh Hamilton and is very situation specific, i.e., late in the game, up by two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844128)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:00 AM
Author: Yellow fanboi trailer park

Better bat speed, hand-eye coordination and visual perception than anyone who has ever played the game. When he added steroids to the mix he was literally unstoppable. Anything that wasn't six inches out of the strike zone would go out of the park.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843771)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:00 AM
Author: Floppy twinkling wagecucks station

2017 NL MVP: .954 OPS

Barry Bonds 22 year career: 1.051 OPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843772)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:45 AM
Author: gold arousing national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844054)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: jet-lagged property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845610)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:04 AM
Author: saffron big resort

as good as lance "rafa" nadal on clay in his prime. odd case!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843775)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: beady-eyed corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844408)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: saffron big resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844749)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845619)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:04 AM
Author: Sienna Violent International Law Enforcement Agency

A 12 year old struck him out. He wasn’t that great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843776)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:46 AM
Author: Brass diverse nursing home

Don't even care about the roids. You think anyone could slam tren and start ripping 500 footers in their late 30s? LJL

Huge joke he's not in the HOF yet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844055)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:49 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844060)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845618)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: rose garrison juggernaut

180, bonds is a legend and the best thing to ever happen in the sport of baseball

who cares how much steroids he used. if he can't be in the hall of fame, why do we even have a hall of fame?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845633)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: marvelous sable university candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845786)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: vigorous base

Threads like these make me sad I didn't watch MLB just so I could see Bonds play.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844114)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:18 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike

by the early 2000s you could sense opposing pitchers shitting their pants every time bonds came to the plate, it was unreal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844120)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:01 AM
Author: Slate halford pisswyrm

GOAT, no real question about it. Best streak of hitting there will ever be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844250)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Aquamarine house

He doesn't get enough credit for his early career too - people forget how good he was before all the roids stuff.

LOL at him losing to Ken Caminiti and four other inferior players for MVP in 1996 while rocking a 9.7 WAR:

https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1996.shtml#all_NL_MVP_voting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844268)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike

jfc, Griffey Jr with 9.7 WAR losing out to Juan Gonzalez on 3.8 WAR in the AL is even worse that year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844307)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Brass diverse nursing home

ARod was the credited choice at the time, though in hindsight it was prob Griffey. LJL at Juan Gone taking it though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844311)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike

also lmao at that 96 mariners team barely being above average, and missing the playoffs, despite almost 20 WAR between Griffey and ARod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844392)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Brass diverse nursing home

I think their starting pitching outside of Big Unit was SPS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844410)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: Histrionic citrine police squad preventive strike

looked it up -- big unit was just ok . the rest of their starting pitching was laughably bad. only sterling hitchcock and bob wolcott were consistently starting throughout the year, and even they were terrible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844425)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution

cue insane shitboomer faggots rambling about rbith

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845628)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Floppy twinkling wagecucks station

40 HR/40 SB is absurd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845634)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: stimulating sepia dysfunction newt

(Alfonso Soriano)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845637)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution

there are eight members of the 300/300 club

only one in the 400/400 club

bonds is also in the 500/500 club



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845652)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: Yellow fanboi trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640705)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Peach Gaming Laptop Stain

ran here to say that his "prime" was 90-92 with pittsburgh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845638)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:37 PM
Author: Dashing chestnut sanctuary

No they don’t. He would have been an all time great but people don’t underrate that period. If anything they overrate it because he wouldn’t be in the conversation for top 10 player of all time without his age 35-40 seasons

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640768)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: jet-lagged property

i am a SF giants fan and followed them closely from 2002 (missed his 70 hr season) to 2014ish

it was incredible. he was heads and shoulders better than any other hitter. teams were terrified of him and intentionally walked him more than entire teams combined. he was basically the only good hitter in the giants lineup (kent was ok for a while) and fans would talk about how he would need to be "protected" so they coudlnt just walk him

every time he came up y ou knew he was gonna do something. almost a done deal if he came up in a game winning situation (runners on base, score tied/close)

watch bonds vs gagne for a fun ass face off when gagne was the best reliever in the game:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkdgJeqeCxM

bonds pulls 2 100 mph fastballs foul, then homers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845641)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: Pale Seedy Gaping Abode

So u were a bandwagon fan that hopped on after they went to the World Series

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640751)



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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:06 PM
Author: marvelous sable university candlestick maker

He was basically God coming down to earth to play baseball

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845776)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: Henna Boyish Tanning Salon

Is there anything to the hot_take that his armor elbow, rather than the steroids, made him the machine that he was because it ensured a consistent, perfect swing plane?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640727)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: Pearl bat-shit-crazy institution

i think it's a cr take. you couldn't back him off the plate. putting the fear of being hit into a batter is one of a pitchers main defenses. bonds had nothing to fear with his plate of armor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640740)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: Dashing chestnut sanctuary

He had babe Ruth type seasons when he was 38 years old

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640763)



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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: doobsian bawdyhouse ladyboy

Roided up, Bonds was the best hitter in baseball history.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640781)