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How good was Barry Bonds in his prime?
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Date: April 14th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: pontificating regret pit On par with Mike Trout? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840529) |
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Date: April 14th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Alcoholic Excitant Immigrant The best ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840540) |
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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: green adventurous bbw garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840578) |
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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: Exhilarant institution haunted graveyard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840585) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:49 AM Author: Yapping mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843758) |
Date: April 14th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: green adventurous bbw garrison Had more intentional walks than entire teams combined (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840580) |
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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: light blood rage area he is #2 in career WAR behind Babe Ruth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840583) |
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Date: April 14th, 2018 4:09 PM Author: crystalline scourge upon the earth So good it was boring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35840604) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:55 AM Author: Sticky Bawdyhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843586) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:59 AM Author: titillating khaki whorehouse people who are hurt The best ever and it's not close. His IBB total in 2004 is almost triple the highest season ever for somebody not named Barry Bonds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843591) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:00 AM Author: Lilac Lascivious Center Kitty Cat 1.422 OPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843592) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:17 AM Author: Trip brunch He was as good as Mike Trout before the steroids. After steroids he was a hitting freak such that it looked like he was playing a different game than anyone else.
For reference, here is a typical Trout statline
.310 BA, 33 home runs, .440 OBP, .570 slugging
Here is Bonds at his peak:
.350 BA, 50 home runs, .560 OBP, .800 slugging
--So the difference between peak Bonds and Trout is the difference between Trout and an average MLBer
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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:51 AM Author: idiotic mood property He was better than Trout before the roids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844208) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:10 AM Author: Salmon hospital pocket flask tbf, Bonds's peak came later. Trout's first 6 seasons > Bonds's first 6 seasons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844281) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:20 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian he was incredible, best guy in any sport ever (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843625) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:23 AM Author: Trip brunch Some more crazy stats.
No one other than Bonds since Ted Williams (50+ years). has had an OBP of greater than .500. Bonds did it 4 times, and had 1 time above 0.600.
Bonds has the 5 highest slugging percentages in a season. He leads with .8634. Babe Ruth is 6th with .7722. For reference, Mike Trout is number 163. |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:48 AM Author: indecent dark heaven I saw an away game with bonds in his prime and it was fucking exhilarating. like nothing else i've experienced as a sports spectator. the crowd went fucking insane every time he was up to bat. people screamed their lungs out and threw fake syringes and shit. Bonds hit 2 dingers that day. people killed each other to try and catch the hr balls. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843755) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:54 AM Author: Pale comical becky Before he became a robot on roids he was awesome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843761) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:55 AM Author: cracking spot At his roid peak, managers would rather intentionally walk him with the bases loaded, walking in a run, rather than risk him hitting a hr. Which he pretty much would do in that situation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843765) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:38 AM Author: crystalline scourge upon the earth That happened once. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844049) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:40 AM Author: cracking spot Thank you for confirming my poast. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844051) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:24 AM Author: crystalline scourge upon the earth It's happened one other time in the modern era to Josh Hamilton and is very situation specific, i.e., late in the game, up by two. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844128) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:00 AM Author: Yapping mad-dog skullcap Better bat speed, hand-eye coordination and visual perception than anyone who has ever played the game. When he added steroids to the mix he was literally unstoppable. Anything that wasn't six inches out of the strike zone would go out of the park. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843771) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:00 AM Author: Lilac Lascivious Center Kitty Cat 2017 NL MVP: .954 OPS Barry Bonds 22 year career: 1.051 OPS |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:04 AM Author: Exciting Indirect Expression Chad as good as lance "rafa" nadal on clay in his prime. odd case! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843775) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: cerebral purple gaping mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844408) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 12:02 PM Author: Exciting Indirect Expression Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844749) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: talented unhinged community account international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845619) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 4:04 AM Author: Glassy Macaca A 12 year old struck him out. He wasn’t that great (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35843776) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:46 AM Author: Stimulating Potus Don't even care about the roids. You think anyone could slam tren and start ripping 500 footers in their late 30s? LJL
Huge joke he's not in the HOF yet |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:49 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844060) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: talented unhinged community account international law enforcement agency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845618) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: impressive location 180, bonds is a legend and the best thing to ever happen in the sport of baseball
who cares how much steroids he used. if he can't be in the hall of fame, why do we even have a hall of fame? |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: Passionate At-the-ready Messiness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845786) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:17 AM Author: laughsome gold cumskin Threads like these make me sad I didn't watch MLB just so I could see Bonds play. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844114) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:18 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian by the early 2000s you could sense opposing pitchers shitting their pants every time bonds came to the plate, it was unreal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844120) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:01 AM Author: Glittery fuchsia rigpig GOAT, no real question about it. Best streak of hitting there will ever be. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844250) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:06 AM Author: Salmon hospital pocket flask He doesn't get enough credit for his early career too - people forget how good he was before all the roids stuff.
LOL at him losing to Ken Caminiti and four other inferior players for MVP in 1996 while rocking a 9.7 WAR:
https://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_1996.shtml#all_NL_MVP_voting |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:15 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian jfc, Griffey Jr with 9.7 WAR losing out to Juan Gonzalez on 3.8 WAR in the AL is even worse that year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844307) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Stimulating Potus ARod was the credited choice at the time, though in hindsight it was prob Griffey. LJL at Juan Gone taking it though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844311) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:36 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian also lmao at that 96 mariners team barely being above average, and missing the playoffs, despite almost 20 WAR between Griffey and ARod (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844392) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:40 AM Author: Stimulating Potus I think their starting pitching outside of Big Unit was SPS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844410) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:43 AM Author: house-broken obsidian place of business persian looked it up -- big unit was just ok . the rest of their starting pitching was laughably bad. only sterling hitchcock and bob wolcott were consistently starting throughout the year, and even they were terrible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35844425) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: talented unhinged community account international law enforcement agency cue insane shitboomer faggots rambling about rbith (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845628) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Lilac Lascivious Center Kitty Cat 40 HR/40 SB is absurd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845634) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: submissive crawly gay wizard (Alfonso Soriano) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845637) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: talented unhinged community account international law enforcement agency there are eight members of the 300/300 club only one in the 400/400 club bonds is also in the 500/500 club
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:20 PM Author: Yapping mad-dog skullcap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640705) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: swashbuckling ticket booth associate ran here to say that his "prime" was 90-92 with pittsburgh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845638) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:37 PM Author: racy shivering theater stage famous landscape painting No they don’t. He would have been an all time great but people don’t underrate that period. If anything they overrate it because he wouldn’t be in the conversation for top 10 player of all time without his age 35-40 seasons (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640768) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: green adventurous bbw garrison i am a SF giants fan and followed them closely from 2002 (missed his 70 hr season) to 2014ish
it was incredible. he was heads and shoulders better than any other hitter. teams were terrified of him and intentionally walked him more than entire teams combined. he was basically the only good hitter in the giants lineup (kent was ok for a while) and fans would talk about how he would need to be "protected" so they coudlnt just walk him
every time he came up y ou knew he was gonna do something. almost a done deal if he came up in a game winning situation (runners on base, score tied/close)
watch bonds vs gagne for a fun ass face off when gagne was the best reliever in the game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkdgJeqeCxM
bonds pulls 2 100 mph fastballs foul, then homers |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:32 PM Author: Big chartreuse yarmulke So u were a bandwagon fan that hopped on after they went to the World Series (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640751) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:06 PM Author: Passionate At-the-ready Messiness He was basically God coming down to earth to play baseball (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#35845776) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: Plum public bath Is there anything to the hot_take that his armor elbow, rather than the steroids, made him the machine that he was because it ensured a consistent, perfect swing plane? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640727) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: talented unhinged community account international law enforcement agency i think it's a cr take. you couldn't back him off the plate. putting the fear of being hit into a batter is one of a pitchers main defenses. bonds had nothing to fear with his plate of armor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640740) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:35 PM Author: racy shivering theater stage famous landscape painting He had babe Ruth type seasons when he was 38 years old (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640763) |
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Date: August 18th, 2018 7:43 PM Author: Appetizing knife parlor Roided up, Bonds was the best hitter in baseball history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949294&forum_id=2#36640781) |