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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:18 AM Author: Deranged police squad stock car
I've been nagged by people on-board and IRL to give it a shot for years now. I'm still not really sold on it, but now is the time to make an attempt. I'm finally not a decrepit fatass, my income is out of poverty range, and I'm still in my 20s; I won't be able to start at 35.
Barring a few one-offs, I have never dated at all, so I'm definitely going to need some XO advice to get myself up to speed and avoid common pratfalls. Hence, this thread. Also, I figure content creation will keep me motivated.
The goal: Get into a marriage-track relationship with a quality genetic female prior to age 30 (T-minus 2 1/2 years).
The method: I have long despised the very concept of online dating and I think it poisons people long-term, but I may have no option but to at least try them. A friend has suggested OKC, but I'm open to trying other venues or many at once (especially early on just to get practice). And of course, I'm also willing to try developing organic relationships IRL.
Some core attributes:
Appearance- 5'10, ~160 pounds. Not particularly muscular but improving with a lifting regimen. I am a Norwood 4 and shave my head short. Facial aesthetics average at best.
Values- I practice Catholicism, and would find that preferable in a partner though it's not an absolute requirement. I would prefer to not have sex prior to marriage.
Lifestyle- I'm in journalism and work an unusual schedule. I'm typically free in the morning but work until the late evening on weekdays. Weekends are free. I live in a generic 2-BR apartment in Arlington with a roommate. Currently have no car but this is purely a money-saving choice. If I bought one, it would be very basic and unimpressive.
Income- ~75k base plus some side gigs that get me just above 90k. Family is reasonably well-off but this isn't immediately obvious and I don't get any support from them.
Perceived strengths or advantages:
-My job isn't lucrative, but is more interesting than the standard lawyer/lobbyist/bureaucrat stuff that dominates D.C. I have quite a few interesting stories I can tell.
-I'm probably in better-than-average shape, even for 20-somethings.
-Ivy UG
-I read a ton and am really well-informed on a lot of topics (or at least come off that way)
-It's hit-or-miss, but I spout a lot of XO shit IRL and some people consider me seriously funny, insightful, or at least unusual. My friends often want to introduce me to other people just to see what happens.
Perceived weaknesses:
-I have low self-esteem and while it can be suppressed for a while it inevitably shows. On a related note, I'm pretty "beta" in my personal demeanor by default.
-5'10, bald
-Total inexperience at relationships, with all that entails
-I have some absurdly nerdy pussy-repellent hobbies, in particular tabletop wargaming and retro game collecting (I have a gigantic SNES collection).
-I'm generally a homebody who follows routines; constantly trying out new restaurants or doing random shit like escape rooms every Saturday does not appeal much to me (and the expense of 'going out' so much would irritate me). I do enjoy travel, though, and if I had a car and somebody to go with I could see myself going on lots of short weekend trips to places in the vicinity of D.C.
-No outward signs of wealth.
-Zero fashion sense; I pretty much have to be told directly whether something looks good or looks bad or I won't really know.
I've rambled on long enough. To summarize:
Bros, it's me again. I'm a 27 year old virgin trying to lose his virginity this decade and any tips you could give me would be much appreciated. This is a big step in my life and I don't feel like I can do it without my Internet friends.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843705) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: Deranged police squad stock car
It's not a requirement, but clearly friends or church haven't really led anywhere or I wouldn't be making this thread. I'm happy to pursue IRL opportunities that crop up and they're probably ideal (in the sense that 'organic' relationships >>> Internet box-checking)
Only one friend has ever really tried to set me up with somebody and it just didn't work out either time.
Maybe I'm unlucky but church has never been a great venue for meeting people for me. I've mentioned this before but generally I don't actually hit it off great with Catholic chicks for one reason or another.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843714) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: clear soul-stirring casino philosopher-king
(1) Be upfront about the fact that you are a good Catholic boy looking for a good Catholic girl. This will weed out people you aren't long term compatible with.
(2) Early in your profile mention that you are trying to read 100 books in 2018, mention how many you've read so far, and namedrop some of the more interesting ones. There are nerdy girls who will find this very alluring.
(3) One of the best ways to show off your sense of humor on OKC is clever captions on your pictures
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843716) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 3:23 AM Author: deep multi-colored bawdyhouse
Don’t go into the online dating cesspool.
Target 18-22 Catholicmo-ettes, conservaheroines. Get them talking about. themselves. ywia!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843717) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 3:35 AM Author: razzle multi-billionaire base
Develop a new passion for a culture/country where catholicism is still relevant and then just start chatting their girls up. Learn the language. Brazilians/flips are extremely friendly and won't realize you're an autismo until they're in too deep
Avoid white girls like they're carrying a disfiguring disease. Do not get mixed up with E. Euro girls
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843741) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 7:01 AM Author: cream library
I've said it before, but I'll say it again. Start watching some Corey Wayne videos now, so you don't shoot yourself in the foot right out of the gate.
It would be particularly useful for someone such as yourself. It's mostly common sense and will prevent you from making some stupid mistakes.
One more thing, you can't let rejection affect you. This is a difficult concept for a lot of dudes to comprehend, but you need to accept rejection early on. It's no big deal and eventually, you'll find someone you click with. It really is a numbers game. The more you practice, the better you'll get.
I'll be rooting for you, you would be a great catch for a like minded morally grounded catholic chick.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843895) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:01 AM Author: cream library
I agree.
It's amazing how many of my sexless friends are mortified by rejection. I'm thinking of one in particular.
I remember when I was in high school selling newspaper subscriptions door-to-door, and the first few times I was rejected I was demoralized. I kept at it though (it was the only job I could find in the winter as a 16 year old). After like 100 rejections, I really didn't care anymore. I was just doing my job. Ever since, rejection has never really bothered me, particularly by women. I've found there are more than enough positive reactions to make the many, many negative ones insignificant. Alcohol certainly helps, but isn't necessary. I honestly think that stupid job was an essential building block in my, sometimes immoral, foundation.
I have a feeling, this will be Chucks largest hurdle, but if he persists, he'll do just fine. He also needs to learn how to feign confidence with a casual IDGAF attitude. With time he can master it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843973) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 7:19 AM Author: Useless Windowlicker
You really need to learn how to dress well. Dressing like a dork is devastating and makes people embarrassed to be around you. There's an art to it, if you go too far into 'high fashion' you will look ridiculous and tryhard, but if you go the 'Dad shopping at Marshall's' route then it's all over.
You should try to project a cooler image than your current virginal Catholic nerd one. I don't know if this is possible - what mainstream and countercultural society regards as cool is so far removed from a Catholic saving himself for marriage. Maybe you can be one of those tough broody Catholics like Damien Karras? Anyway, it's going to be hard to generate real attraction in a partner unless you do something about that, and if she was never attracted in the first place then you will make your life miserable by getting involved with her.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843924) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 8:08 AM Author: cream library
I agree with this as well. Based on the pictures I've seen, he needs an overhaul.
Not like I have any sense of style, but I dress comfortably and I don't think I look like a dweeb.
A huge step for Chuck would be not tucking in his shirt for starters... even on a date. I think he wears an outdated sort of glasses frame too (IIRC). He should try and get some new frames... well outside of his comfort zone, or go with contacts.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843986) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: Disturbing Native
I’m going to oversimplify it.
You need a combination of finding a good person (not going to be the perfect person), be willing to accept flaws, & not self-sabotage because she doesn’t hit every checklist. No one does; you won’t for her, either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843984) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 8:15 AM Author: magical bonkers office
Consider meetup.com events. Find ones that interest you that will appeal to a mix of men and women. Go to them. Meet women.
This is a way to use the internet to make a connection with multiple women, yet allow you the opportunity to meet said women organically.
This is not a fast-moving method, however. It’s a slow play, but you’ll at least know from the outset 1) that you have something in common to talk about and 2) that she’s more than some Tindr camwhore just looking for her next guy.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35843997) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 9:30 AM Author: rusted principal's office
Do not date girls who work in DC. Get a car (any kind will do) and plan to date teachers or the like from deep in Fairfax.
Younger DC girls will not be forgiving of your looks. Possibly if you had a superior income of 200+ or more but for 75 you won’t receive any pass on that. You will also have a hard time from them due to your political leaning and even residence. There is a notion among superlibs that VA and even Arlington is gun haven KKK land or something.
If you date outside the city you’ll find more conservative types, girls who still live at home, girls who are happy to go to cheaper less pretentious restaurant options like Olive Garden, and girls who will be more impressed by your 75k year high profile job.
The best hope in DC would be Glover Park or North Arlington girls, but the former is looking for big income and family money and the latter is looking for frat stars. Even if you dip into the ballston or south Arlington crowd they are dreaming of some kind of biglaw dood and fancy dinners in DC that you don’t want to deal with. Just throw down $12k on a used accord and consider it the cost of doing business. Your initial results online should give credence to my theory. Toss out a few flyers to quirky Centerville chicks and see what happens.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844154) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 10:10 AM Author: Pea-brained brethren
Your appeal is sort of niche, use your irl network to prequalify your market
Have them help you turn cold leads into warm leads
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Explicitly ask your irl couple friends for their help
Irl friends who are in long term relationships that you suspect aren't terrible, butter them up, tell them that it seems like to you they have a really good relationship, you would love to be in a relationship like theirs, if they have any female friends who are single who they think you might hit it off with, you would appreciate the introduction...
In general, girls in relationships tend to like setting up their single friends, but you might have to iterate this process more than once.
If they seem interested, you can try to prequalify what your looking for a little, but don't go crazy, give them a chance of actually knowing someone who might be a good match
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More generally, anyone they set you up with, keep an open mind to, and give a generous chance to, don't write them off as XO stereotypes, if they express an interest in travel, or mention having ever been to brunch, or express an interest in post-graduate education, just roll with it for a while, see the good in people.
Don't pattern match people you don't know against people you've had poor experiences in the past with.
Accept that people aren't perfect.
Accept that you might have to sell your worldview a bit to find a mate who shares your worldview.
Accept that that is unlikely to be a 1 date process.
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Good luck, I'm rooting for you, I believe that a world in which you've found someone to treat well, who treats you well, is a better one than we currently live in.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844282) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Pea-brained brethren
Sorry to hear that, how explicitly have you asked your social network for help? The older you get the more success you might have with this ask, the more people take themselves out of the mating market, the more their willing to help others out,
Like all networking, people like to help people who will make them look good, the further your career progresses, the more success you're likely to have getting your network to help you on this manner,
If you feel you've sufficiently queried your social network, consider taking steps to expand your network, you probably need to know someone pretty well to make that ask, but you might get a lot of mileage out of some pretty weak ties (use your judgment)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35845621) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Pea-brained brethren
He doesn't need to "get good at dating", he needs to take enough at bats to find someone who'll look past the fact that he's not particularly good at dating
Then he needs to be good at being in a relationship, which he probably will be already, and which going on a high volume of app dates won't help him with
(I don't think he should rule out explicitly religious dating sites), I just think he have better luck breaking past the first date wall having his irl friends give him a warm intro and explaining why the should give him a shot even if his first 10 minute impression doesn't blow them away
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35846693) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 10:11 AM Author: trip amethyst crackhouse generalized bond
Highly suggest you avoid swipe apps and check out eHarmony, and match.com. I haven't used them tbh but they aren't filled with girls who are looking for only hookups because they are pay sites. And maybe OKcupid, at least you can do a lot of filtering first.
See if there are catholic dating sites out there too. It is hard to overstate how put off you will likely be by Tinder, and how put off many of those women will be by you.
If you are only attracted to women your own race thats fine but as you know there are catholic minority women who may share a similar worldview to you.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844285) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Beady-eyed purple cuck elastic band
In general:
Be yourself
Don’t be picky re: looks
Realize nothing is personal and don’t get hung up on the outcome of any date and try to have fun, if it doesn’t work with a girl it takes two to tango and you guys were just incompatible etc etc
In particular:
Don’t be afraid to disagree with a girl when she says stuff (get good at disagreeing in a way that makes you seem surprised she thinks whatever she does, but also interested in why she thinks so — this might be easier for attractive people but it’s important to be authentic in your interactions with people and that includes being able to have conversations on things you disagree on.) Be good at pivoting from disagreements to new topics, though, so that conversation doesn’t get stuck.
Be calm during dates. smile and try to find humor in her jokes
Don’t be afraid to make physical contact with her if you get positive signs.
Don’t be afraid to play kiss/eat her if y’all are drinking and she gives you very positive signs
MAKE EYE CONTACT
MAKE EYE CONTACT
MAKE EYE CONTACT WHEN SHE TALKS, you DONT need to make as much eye contact while you’re talking. (Don’t know how aspie you are)
If I think of more I will poast
Edit: dress nice dude. Slacks, either dress shirt or t shirt depending on your cibe. If dress shirt then nicer slacks, nice shoes and belt. If t shirt then more like khakis, and not nice shoes (and definitely not running shoes) but some flat soled street shoes like skate shoes. Wear nice sweaters in winter, wear nice shorts (end above knee, NOT cargo shorts) in summer. Colors include khaki, blue, pink ok if you’re crafty.
Get better at taking life a little less seriously (if you’re a serious guy)
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844351) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: frisky whorehouse
I would look into Catholicmatch, you are much more likely to find someone on there that fits your unique requirements. Bumble/Match are you second best options. I would work hard in the gym to get more muscular, get some decent clothes that fit for dates, be open minded and don’t take rejection too hard. I think your career has a coolness factor you can play up and will make you stand out.
https://www.catholicmatch.com
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844678) |
Date: April 15th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: plum fragrant trump supporter
having a car, dating apps, wardrobe -- who cares about any of this.
you mentioned in passing that you have low self-esteem. have you given thought to why this is, and how it might affect your relationships?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35844757) |
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Date: April 15th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: crystalline lay
How exactly is it toxic? I mean, there are a couple unhinged people taking shots at him, but that's nothing new for XO.
As far as the actual advice goes, all of it is credited to a certain extent. There's tips on how he can improve his appearance; that advice isn't toxic at all, it's a fact of life that you need to put your best foot forward.
As for strategy, yes, there is a lot of highly conflicting advice. However, you can distill those disparate approaches into one concrete truth: he needs to be doing *something*. It's too easy to get intimidated by how difficult the task is that he's facing and choose to not do anything (like he has for years now).
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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: nighttime hairraiser haunted graveyard tattoo
no non religious woman is going to wait until marriage to have sex.
Honestly, the no sex thing is your biggest disadvantage.
You might as well just get on some Christian dating app.
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Date: April 15th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: excitant brunch
Good to hear man. Some advice from someone who’s been on hundreds of dates:
General: almost all dating is incredibly superficial. You need to mentally prepare for that, and not use it as an excuse to give up. Remember, you find one great girl and you don’t have to do it anymore. I wouldn’t recommend online dating for you, it’s basically hookup culture and it doesn’t play to your strengths. If you must, try something like match or okc.
I think you should target places where you know you will find a girl with your values/interests. Churches, libraries, or socio-cultural clubs/events. Have you ever thought of joining a book club? You might fucking pwn that scene, dude.
Also, you cant let xo toxicity ruin things for you. Approach dating like an opportunity to try new things and venture outside of your comfort zone. It can be very fun and rewarding.
Style:
Your body is above average so you should wear good clothes that fit you.
https://dappered.com/2014/03/3-key-pieces-of-advice-for-guys-just-getting-into-style/
http://i.imgur.com/3JInmni.png
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3949722&forum_id=2#35845340)
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:10 PM Author: crystalline lay
There are two problems with your laserlike focus on a chaste Catholic girl. The obvious problem is that those types are somewhat rare. The second part is that even if you were to find yourself on a date with a girl that checks off all your boxes, you are so out of practice with dating that you're likely not going to make a good first impression on a first date.
I think you ought to date some women that *don't* check off all your boxes simply to gain practice in going on dates. Gaining comfortability in things like having flirtatious conversations, physical escalation, etc., would be beneficial for you. I know you don't want to have sex before marriage, but would it really be that big of a deal for you to have makeout sessions with lapsed Protestant girls?
App dating is awful, but it may yield some valuable practice for you if you're able to maintain a healthy mentality toward it.
There are some tools for Tinder that claim to be able to let you auto-swipe on girls. I've never tried this and I have no idea how well it works, but I can't help but think that it might help in keeping a healthy attitude toward Tinder. It's very taxing to manually swipe on hundreds of girls just to get a couple of matches. Automating the process could theoretically help a lot.
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/search/tinder
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Date: April 15th, 2018 3:28 PM Author: frozen appetizing hall
C12,
Go into DC. Hang out on the Mall or something. Walk up to every girl you see and talk to her. Most will be uninterested. The more they reject you the better off you are. Tell them stupid shit. Make up stuff about Civil/Revolutionary War battles and generals and shit that didn't happen. Doesn't matter. They're probably clueless tourists anyway.
"Hey, you know you're standing right on a lesser-known historical landmark? Yeah, Nathaniel Greene gathered his troops here to address them before the British siege. Except Greene had a bad case of the flu, as did half his troops. He had this famous speech he liked to give. You've heard the line death before dishonor? Yeah, Greene came up with that.
Anyway, he works himself into a frenzy, and right as he's screaming "DISHON- "BLEECHCCHH!!!" he projectile vomits right onto the head of the horse he's riding. Two things happen. One, the horse throws him and bolts right into the troops. Two, half the men in the front lines start vomiting themselves sympathetically. Which causes the men behind them to vomit, etc. Unfortunately, other horses in the vicinity also panic as a result of the confusion. Long story short, the horses trample twenty-eight soldiers to death and sixty more are injured literally slipping on puke getting out of the way. It's the biggest pre-battle casualty event in American military history, and it came to be known as the Georgetown Incident. By the way, you're cute. I'm Charles."
Once you do this about 12000 times you'll be able to talk to any girl that comes across your path. Profit.
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Date: April 15th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: henna indian lodge coldplay fan
Dating is largely based on a points system. If you are 4, you should target 3-5.
Dating is also, outside of internet dating, based almost exclusively on social interaction and familiarity aka social circle.
So, what I would do is go to an event where you are “part of the crowd.” You said church does not work, try college alumni events (any ivy will have them in DC) or political events. Hell, go to anti-abortion rallies. Something that (1) you will be part of the social circle and (2) the type of woman you are after will be present.
Then, talk to people. Start out just having conversations. Have a couple drinks to loosen yourself up. Don’t go into it looking for a wife (or even a date) just to practice talking to women. Keep the conversation light. Don’t tell your a virgin. If one seems interested (remember target 3-5 range women) then ask her for her number and try a date.
Another angle is through friends. Everyone knows someone. Ask them if they know any single women.
Go out to a bar (choose one that would have someone you are looking for — I mean are there locals type Irish bars in DC with lots of Catholics).
Or just do Christian mingle/eharmony and you will find someone fairly quickly. You are very unusual as a 27 year old male virgin looking for marriage and there are more women in your market than men.
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Date: April 15th, 2018 10:10 PM Author: Deranged police squad stock car
I have a lot of interesting work stories but a lot are pretty politically-tinged so perhaps not great to open with. Non-political stuff:
-I try to read at a 100-book-per-year pace
-I spent a school term studying archaeological ruins in Greece.
-I have had comedic works published for money
-I have been on a champion bar trivia team
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Date: April 15th, 2018 7:20 PM Author: hideous queen of the night corn cake
Good luck, C12. I don’t have any specific advice, but I generally agree with those advocating for numbers and experimentation. You need to narrow down your core values (e.g., Catholicism/chastity, politics maybe) and be open to those who might not otherwise meet some of the standards you have in mind.
It’s good to have a rational idea of what you want in a woman, but people are complicated. A lot of the dimensions of a person that you might never consider intellectually end up being the ones that determine mutual attraction and your ability to bond/have a successful relationship.
I assume you are disregarding the advice that you should get with a prole teacher from Centerville or whatever. You are correct to disregard it.
You might want to expand experimentation in your dating life more broadly. It doesn’t cost a lot to add new items to your wardrobe. You could also try boozing a little bit on dates. Even if you’re not crazy about it, it’ll probably loosen up your date, and it’s pretty harmless if you’re not getting sauced.
Incidentally, my experiences with app dating have been much more positive recently. Hinge is the best of the bunch IME.
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Date: April 15th, 2018 9:35 PM Author: flatulent persian
you'll need to meet someone pretty young, introverted & bright-eyed and who will look up to you and readily defer to you - something difficult about that may be that any woman who would value your intellect - while also garnering *your* respect - would likely have enough of a foundation of education, personality and opinions that unless she just so happens to be Catholic, you could end up in a sticky situation re: religious negotiation
I admire your oath of chastity - however, I worry that if you were to truly open yourself up to someone, unless she's a cold, neurotic fish (boo! no! not wife material!) her wiles will pull you over to the dark side - even if she starts out as pure and idealistic in her own virginity
falling in love is a drug - beware
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Date: April 16th, 2018 1:59 PM Author: lascivious really tough guy
The no sex before marriage thing is going to be a dealbreaker for all non religious and even most semi religious women.
I don’t think any dating app other than niche very religious ones are going to work for you.
If your social circle isn’t going to work for you, start going to meetup groups or other social groups on the internet for Catholics.
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Date: April 16th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: cerebral faggot firefighter
Your problem is aiming for genetic females. You'll have the greatest success with a hot t girl. She will also be most likely to be a traditionalist wrt the female role in a relationship. You will never find this with a genetic female. The hot t girl will also be most likely to overlook your physical appearance.
If t girls don't go for you, fire up grindr.
What really comes across in this thread is you're terrified of having your ego hurt. Get over it. The only way you'll ever get laid is by sacking up and dealing with it.
Has any women EVER expressed interest in you in a sexual way?
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