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Lol Catholics literally denying their pope in violation of their own religion

"Scripture and tradition" (Except Vatican 2 btw...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Poor Benedict
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
poor man was too good for this gay world
Spectacular walnut indirect expression
  04/17/18
Not any of us Catholics on xo
submissive mind-boggling hissy fit abode
  04/17/18
*anti pope
fear-inspiring lettuce
  04/17/18
Catholics playing postliberal tricks on themselves is absolu...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism
razzle doctorate
  04/17/18
Lol
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Who cares
razzle doctorate
  04/17/18
I have no idea why I care
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
he meant who cares what an ePISScopalian atheist, on the bot...
french opaque orchestra pit hominid
  04/17/18
Maybe it’s time we wise up to the fact that all forms of Chr...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Christians invented everything so it's a pretty important va...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
LOL, imagine what Europeans would’ve invented without the ce...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Unclear, the Romans were pretty ttt and monotheism paved the...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Pls read edited statement above. And no, the the foundat...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Links?
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
JFC look up Aristotelian logic (and then be amazed that its ...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
...
Glassy Parlor
  04/17/18
Industrious but blockheaded, and morally virtuous certainly ...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Yfwgi
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
You guys were 180 though nice job with monotheism and stuff
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
I think you misunderstand, brother. Monotheism and it’s cons...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
What would have been the sociological results of continued p...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
The scientific discoveries of the 1400s would have been made...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Why are you saying it was Christianity as a religion that pr...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
(Guy who’s starting to connect the dots) Rome’s collapse ...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Why did the Romans lose if they were better?
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
If by “lose” you mean “collapse”: Rome’s collapse was due, i...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
You're saying Rome fell because of the Christians and that R...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
The Christians were Roman, dude. Christians and Pagans were...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall Hint: it’s the START. You ...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
That's fine that you're impatient with my lack of knowledge,...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Bro history is full of instances where a particular ideology...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
If you don't know just say so
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
You're assuming an ideology that is successful in converting...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
You seem to be assuming that the only merits of Christianity...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
no I'm saying persuasiveness -/-> merit. Where have I...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
you seem mad for no reason. and im not quite sure why you fe...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
tbh I've been flaming this whole time and forgot you're a re...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
I know who you are pumo and you're a good dude
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
They burned books and destroyed libraries, and burned every ...
Titillating rambunctious lodge mood
  04/17/18
Gotta have the right existential foundation before you can b...
Dashing therapy
  04/17/18
Odd case, the Eastern Roman Empire was very Christian and ma...
at-the-ready odious theater jewess
  04/17/18
why didn't China just make those discoveries in Europe's ste...
razzle doctorate
  04/17/18
I think historians favor an explanation that northern China ...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Christianity was a continuation of prior religious practices...
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
There are some Christian apologists who argue this. Tough fo...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Lol sure jesus was born on Christmas
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
(Guy who thinks religions are functionally equivalent if the...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
(Guy that thinks it's reasonable that they only ported dates...
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
you're right man, Christianity is the ideological successor ...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
You mean the tale of a sun-king, son of an absent God-the-Fa...
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
yup -- the background mythology of Christianity and Greco Ro...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
stepping back, do you really think that the entirety of west...
wonderful red native
  04/17/18
we literally know for a fact that religious shifts of the sc...
alcoholic thriller kitty cat
  04/17/18
Remember when they molested thousands of kids in violation o...
Sick property place of business
  04/17/18
catholics? you mean the vatican ii sect http://www.mostholyf...
Abusive sienna coffee pot
  04/17/18


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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

"Scripture and tradition"

(Except Vatican 2 btw)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861713)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: wonderful red native

Poor Benedict

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861718)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Spectacular walnut indirect expression

poor man was too good for this gay world

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861763)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: submissive mind-boggling hissy fit abode

Not any of us Catholics on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861721)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: fear-inspiring lettuce

*anti pope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861725)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Catholics playing postliberal tricks on themselves is absolutely 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861739)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: razzle doctorate

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedevacantism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861755)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:26 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861768)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: razzle doctorate

Who cares

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861781)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

I have no idea why I care

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861791)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: french opaque orchestra pit hominid

he meant who cares what an ePISScopalian atheist, on the bottom of the lobster hierarchy, thinks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861809)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

Maybe it’s time we wise up to the fact that all forms of Christianity are simply variants of that peculiar religion known as judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861815)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Christians invented everything so it's a pretty important variation I'd say

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861834)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

LOL, imagine what Europeans would’ve invented without the centuries of regression brought on by that Semitic religion.

Also patently false — one need only look to the industrial nature of the Romans and Greeks to see that pagan culture far surpassed our own in terms of intellectual curiousity and moral purity. Would we have needed a Renaissance if the lessons of our ancestors had not been forgotten in the first place?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861854)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Unclear, the Romans were pretty ttt and monotheism paved the way for science so probably something hedonistic and somehow both sterile and gross

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861881)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

Pls read edited statement above.

And no, the the foundations of our scientific methods were created before Christianity arrived in Europe. Only when the shackles of Christianity were broken did the scientific age truly begin to flourish once more, as it had under the romans and greeks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861901)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Links?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861932)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

JFC look up Aristotelian logic (and then be amazed that its study was controversial in Christian Europe because he was a pagan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861947)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Glassy Parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862113)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Industrious but blockheaded, and morally virtuous certainly not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861900)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

Yfwgi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861905)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

You guys were 180 though nice job with monotheism and stuff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861844)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

I think you misunderstand, brother. Monotheism and it’s consequences have been a disaster for the human race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861868)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

What would have been the sociological results of continued polytheism in your estimation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861886)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:51 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

The scientific discoveries of the 1400s would have been made in the 400s.

Christianity put human scientific progress back 1000 years, this is not flame.

Don’t even get me started on the damage ursury laws, etc did to capital markets in post Christian Europe — it retarded the continent for literally centuries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861939)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Why are you saying it was Christianity as a religion that prevented scientific progress and not just the historical contingency of rome's collapse? Like without Rome maybe paganism would also have not produced anything in the middle ages

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861987)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

(Guy who’s starting to connect the dots)

Rome’s collapse was due, in large part, to the rise of Christianity.

Once Europe lost its culture and Rome fell, there was no group capable of providing the continent with stable and efficient government, and the people themselves were set adrift with a new religion and without the social institutions which had been the basis of European societies for millennia. The results were predictable: centuries of regression, paranoia, and religious extremism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862028)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Why did the Romans lose if they were better?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862241)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

If by “lose” you mean “collapse”: Rome’s collapse was due, in large part, to the rise of Christianity

Also: “better” than whom? Please write more clearly so I can know if you’re saying something smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862280)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

You're saying Rome fell because of the Christians and that Romans would have put western civilization on a better path. Why would we be on a better path if the apparently weaker civilization had won?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862305)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

The Christians were Roman, dude. Christians and Pagans were competing movements within Greco Roman civilization. Please read up on history of Rome’s decline and fall, this conversation won’t go anywhere if you don’t know which questions to ask.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862328)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

Read Gibbon’s Decline and Fall

Hint: it’s the START. You won’t find the right answers in Gibbon, but you’ll learn the right questions to ask

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862354)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:58 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

That's fine that you're impatient with my lack of knowledge, but the question of why Christianity won out over paganism, and why it's inferior even in light of winning that ideological battle, seems to move the discussion in some kind of direction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862363)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:02 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

Bro history is full of instances where a particular ideology “won” despite it leading to horrible consequences. Looking back on the 20th century, do you think you could find some examples?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862383)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

If you don't know just say so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862413)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

You're assuming an ideology that is successful in converting a majority of the population is therefore "better" than the ideology it replaces. Of course that proposition is false; establishing that an ideology is persuasive proves nothing about the merits of that ideology.

You're locked on the notion that persuasiveness --> merit. You need to drop that idea, it makes you sound dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862611)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:46 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

You seem to be assuming that the only merits of Christianity were persuasiveness, which i dont take to be any less myopic than of what your accusing me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863012)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

no I'm saying persuasiveness -/-> merit.

Where have I written anything to suggest a belief that Christianity is/was entirely without merit?

(Hint: the answer is nowhere, and you're out of your depth)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863120)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

you seem mad for no reason. and im not quite sure why you feel compelled to turn this into a pissing contest about historical facts or continously impel em to read books like im gonna just brb and have read and udnerstood the history of the roman empire lol. ive just been asking you questions. think you need jesus bro. the chill christian vibe is probably why it beat the roman pagan ttt religion lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863233)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

tbh I've been flaming this whole time and forgot you're a real person my bad i'm not really a Gibbonmo and haven't actually read anything about the fall of the roman empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863530)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

I know who you are pumo and you're a good dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863545)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: Titillating rambunctious lodge mood

They burned books and destroyed libraries, and burned every heretic who spoke out at the stake. You can consider Christianity to be an early form of Communism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862768)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:20 PM
Author: Dashing therapy

Gotta have the right existential foundation before you can build knowledge. Probably why the roman ttts fucked boys like the Catholics. Too much brain not enough heart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863307)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 8:16 PM
Author: at-the-ready odious theater jewess

Odd case, the Eastern Roman Empire was very Christian and managed to survive for many centuries

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35863272)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: razzle doctorate

why didn't China just make those discoveries in Europe's stead

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35861992)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:10 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

I think historians favor an explanation that northern China had the raw materials to support an industrial revolution, but was too close to barbarians to support infrastructure investments. (In fact I think northern Chinese people did experiment with coal but stopped after barbarians invaded through the north).

As a response to invasions, Chinese society centered itself in the southern half of the country, and it’s people didn’t have the resources to stimulate investments in mines and use of coal that industrialization required.

My explanation is that Greco Roman culture is inherently superior to those of the far east

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862063)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: wonderful red native

Christianity was a continuation of prior religious practices rebranded under a sun god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862261)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:48 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

There are some Christian apologists who argue this. Tough for them to do it with a straight face, but they exist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862294)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:05 PM
Author: wonderful red native

Lol sure jesus was born on Christmas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862399)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

(Guy who thinks religions are functionally equivalent if they celebrate holy days on the same date)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862548)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: wonderful red native

(Guy that thinks it's reasonable that they only ported dates over)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862689)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

you're right man, Christianity is the ideological successor to Greco Roman paganism. Conversion of Europe was just a grafting of early Christian aesthetics onto Pagan ideological foundations. Nothing more to see here!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862827)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: wonderful red native

You mean the tale of a sun-king, son of an absent God-the-Father, born of a virgin (like Attis) at the winter solstice (like Dionysus, Apollo, and Mithras), who was slain before a lachrymose mother and resuscitated as the Redeemer at Easter, and whose body was transubstantiated into bread appears to be a popular mythological template upon which the new Judeo-Christian orthodoxy grafted the economic radicalism of a mysterious and seductive Hebrew ascetic: the young teacher Joshua?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862863)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

yup -- the background mythology of Christianity and Greco Roman paganism lines up nice and neat. That means the doctrines and tenets of the systems must be the same, too!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862919)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:38 PM
Author: wonderful red native

stepping back, do you really think that the entirety of western culture threw everything out and started from scratch worshiping a desert god that was kind of sort of formulated 400 years prior? That sounds plausible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862944)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: alcoholic thriller kitty cat

we literally know for a fact that religious shifts of the scale you're talking about have happened multiple times throughout history. For another example, please read up on the expansion of Islam xoxohth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862970)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: Sick property place of business

Remember when they molested thousands of kids in violation of their own religion? ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862267)



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Date: April 17th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: Abusive sienna coffee pot

catholics? you mean the vatican ii sect http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/catholicchurch/vatican-ii-exposed/#.WtZ-XIUcrTk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3951978&forum_id=2#35862725)