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What is it about law that makes people suicidal?

Programming is mostly bitch work and pays a lot less, but ge...
saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard
  04/20/18
Failure is an option there, and there's no opposing develope...
orchid point codepig
  04/20/18
I can see how that kind of pressure can grind down your psyc...
saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard
  04/20/18
the key to an OK life is to find a job with low stress/low r...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
it's the constant - constant - fighting that wears you down....
Lavender Exciting Newt
  04/20/18
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mewling marvelous corner kitty cat
  04/20/18
I actually get energized by a lot of fighting.
High-end Parlor Police Squad
  04/20/18
Who cares if you fuck up - you can just find the bug and fix...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
pro tip: after a few years, stop practicing law, and make ot...
godawful flesh goyim trump supporter
  04/20/18
For 60 hours a week -- often 7 days a week -- I'm occupied w...
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
Aren't you a solo - why not just work less by taking fewer c...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
Those GOLDEN HANDCUFFS. I need to make a certain amount. ...
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
Are you in flyover? If so, you could prob easily cut exp...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
I'm in the suburbs of a top 10 metro. I don't have an expens...
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
Wife doesn't work? That's my goal too - move somewhere ch...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
Xmas tree business sounds 180
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
Holiday tree, please.
orchid point codepig
  04/20/18
How is that worse than being a therapist or social worker?
saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard
  04/20/18
They get paid less, so they work less and there's less in wr...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
Lawyers are subjected to scrutiny by friends, foes, and neut...
orchid point codepig
  04/20/18
Also everything is in writing, so you can't deny, deny, deny...
exhilarant deep office goal in life
  04/20/18
Because you are directly helping people in those positions a...
Glittery Cumskin
  04/20/18
And they often resent having to pay for the relief they feel...
orchid point codepig
  04/20/18
CR. And they expect that because their problem is urgent...
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
lawyers are an unwanted expense
grizzly hell
  04/20/18
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mischievous mad-dog skullcap jap
  04/20/18
Everybody, including your own clients, hates you
Peach public bath masturbator
  04/20/18
let me add that you never "produce" anything. Even...
Lavender Exciting Newt
  04/20/18
Do real estate or project finance
adventurous maroon hunting ground stag film
  04/20/18
mighty fine deed of trust we built, isn't it?
Peach public bath masturbator
  04/20/18
...
Lavender Exciting Newt
  04/20/18
"You see that great new restaurant? Yup, I did that. We...
Cobalt really tough guy
  04/20/18
I was invited to the private grand opening of a restaurant t...
orchid point codepig
  04/20/18
sisyphus. something like programming results in discrete de...
racy brindle mental disorder
  04/20/18
ty for restating more eloquently
Lavender Exciting Newt
  04/20/18
i agree with your assessment. i didn't see it before i post...
racy brindle mental disorder
  04/20/18
All of my programming jobs have driven me to suicidal ideati...
heady wagecucks nowag
  04/20/18
I don’t hate it that much. Maybe it’s because I have an exit...
saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard
  04/20/18
expectations are also implausibly high. 95% of clients belie...
Lavender Exciting Newt
  04/21/18


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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard

Programming is mostly bitch work and pays a lot less, but generally the work doesn’t drive people to suicidal ideation. I suppose law could just attract people prone to suicide

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884059)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:43 PM
Author: orchid point codepig

Failure is an option there, and there's no opposing developer trying to fuck you up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884071)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard

I can see how that kind of pressure can grind down your psyche day to day. There’s more at stake in law. A programmer can just say “erm guess I underestimated the time commitment whoops”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884086)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

the key to an OK life is to find a job with low stress/low responsibility and OK pay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884088)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:22 PM
Author: Lavender Exciting Newt

it's the constant - constant - fighting that wears you down. it's always you against everyone. even people in your firm, working ostensibly on the same side as you, are trying to claw over you and use you for their own purposes. it's mentally exhausting

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884361)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:35 PM
Author: mewling marvelous corner kitty cat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884950)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:43 PM
Author: High-end Parlor Police Squad

I actually get energized by a lot of fighting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884993)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:45 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

Who cares if you fuck up - you can just find the bug and fix the code

If you fuck up in law, you're done here

Also, constant fire drills and on call (at least at large firms)

In general, it's just higher stress because there's more "responsibility"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884079)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: godawful flesh goyim trump supporter

pro tip: after a few years, stop practicing law, and make other people practice law for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884085)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

For 60 hours a week -- often 7 days a week -- I'm occupied with solving other people's problems. My life is spent taking people's most stressful problems on as my own, all day, every day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884112)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

Aren't you a solo - why not just work less by taking fewer cases

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884115)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:54 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

Those GOLDEN HANDCUFFS. I need to make a certain amount.

That said, I could likely cut back but I'm saving a lot. I used some of that to buy an investment property this year, which is generating rental income. My plan is to add another few properties over the next five years and then transition to a very part time practice.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884154)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:55 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

Are you in flyover?

If so, you could prob easily cut expenses

Sounds like your life could be 180 once you get dat real estate tip going

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884168)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:01 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

I'm in the suburbs of a top 10 metro. I don't have an expensive lifestyle but wife + kids adds up. Either way, yes, I'd love to just spend my time managing a small real estate portfolio that I can eventually give to my kids. That's the motivating factor for all this assucking lawyer work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884224)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:02 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

Wife doesn't work?

That's my goal too - move somewhere cheap and just get rental properties going and maybe an Xmas tree business

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884233)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

Xmas tree business sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884347)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:35 PM
Author: orchid point codepig

Holiday tree, please.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884455)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard

How is that worse than being a therapist or social worker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884118)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:51 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

They get paid less, so they work less and there's less in writing so you can deny, deny, deny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884126)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: orchid point codepig

Lawyers are subjected to scrutiny by friends, foes, and neutrals. And the liability persists over a relatively long period of time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884141)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: exhilarant deep office goal in life

Also everything is in writing, so you can't deny, deny, deny.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884148)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:07 PM
Author: Glittery Cumskin

Because you are directly helping people in those positions and your clients see you as a legitimate advocate. You also have freedom as a therapist to be creative with your clients. Clients, generally speaking, like their therapists and enjoy the time they spend with them. There are no real deadlines or endless waves of work. There are no opposing parties. You have a great deal of autonomy and are not really beholden to anyone unless you work in an institutional setting. Your fellow therapists tend to be altruistic, highly empathetic people who are not repulsive to be around.

Lawyers, on the other hand, are viewed by their clients as an extremely expensive necessary evil. They are forced to pay you to navigate an obtuse system where "fairness" is secondary to procedures and regulations. At least half of your colleagues are nasty, autistic or mentally ill, and the sort of people you would actively avoid everday IRL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884271)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: orchid point codepig

And they often resent having to pay for the relief they feel entitled to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884302)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

CR.

And they expect that because their problem is urgent to them, it must be urgent to you. Calling you on a Friday at 8pm? "Sure," they think. Because it's "urgent" unlike the other 20 clients sending you urgent problems to fix.

Therapists say "see me every Wednesday at 2pm. If you feel like dying 911."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884316)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:22 PM
Author: grizzly hell

lawyers are an unwanted expense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884360)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: mischievous mad-dog skullcap jap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884984)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Peach public bath masturbator

Everybody, including your own clients, hates you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884351)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:25 PM
Author: Lavender Exciting Newt

let me add that you never "produce" anything. Even if you do your job well, all you see is a contract, or a favorable court order, or a check. Then you wake up the next day and there's another one. When people talk about shuffling paper from one stack to another, they are being 100% honest. There's a benefit in having some sort of objective marker of accomplishment, other than depositing a paycheck every couple of weeks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884378)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: adventurous maroon hunting ground stag film

Do real estate or project finance

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884384)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: Peach public bath masturbator

mighty fine deed of trust we built, isn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884394)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Lavender Exciting Newt



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884401)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: Cobalt really tough guy

"You see that great new restaurant? Yup, I did that. Well, negotiated the guaranty on the lease. Got it down significantly. Yup!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884421)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: orchid point codepig

I was invited to the private grand opening of a restaurant that I did the construction contracts for. I had almost that exact conversation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884710)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: racy brindle mental disorder

sisyphus. something like programming results in discrete developments which can be mentally-categorized as "contributions" of some sort to something beyond yourself. something additive to the "stock" of mankind. but intervening into (and often PROVOKING) other people's retarded and destructive legal disputes? LOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884400)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Lavender Exciting Newt

ty for restating more eloquently

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884409)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: racy brindle mental disorder

i agree with your assessment. i didn't see it before i posted. there's no "there" there in most of the law. even things that go "well" often seem completely meaningless even just days after their conclusions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884423)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: heady wagecucks nowag

All of my programming jobs have driven me to suicidal ideation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884482)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: saffron dysfunction haunted graveyard

I don’t hate it that much. Maybe it’s because I have an exit strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35884681)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Lavender Exciting Newt

expectations are also implausibly high. 95% of clients believe it's completely self-evident that they should win, and you should be able to just file a couple papers and make it happen.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955133&forum_id=2#35887588)