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CSLG- Im gonna go solo plaintiff but patent lit- credited?

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laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  04/20/18
I thought patent litigation was dying *and* it's particularl...
violent field milk
  04/20/18
Have fun filing for bankruptcy within four months
navy sex offender state
  04/20/18
I have an infinite source of small cases but no bankroll- is...
laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  04/20/18
No clue but I imagine it will be very difficult to find clie...
very tactful flushed crotch immigrant
  04/20/18
i have many clients. the big issue will be getting big comp...
laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  04/21/18
We might be able to help each other. Do you have a throwaway...
Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop
  04/21/18
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laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  04/21/18
Got it, thx. Will email later today
Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop
  04/21/18
email sent
Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop
  04/21/18
lol....back when I was a patent agent for an IP boutique (al...
concupiscible sandwich personal credit line
  04/21/18
describe the types of weirdos that go into patent law.
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
DBG, for one
Jet-lagged shitlib
  01/31/19
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motley fanboi
  01/31/19
Hey man check your throwaway gmail
Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop
  01/17/19
OP: update?
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
isn't patent law dead?
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
no, it's not "dead" patent law has been around ...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
http://www.managingip.com/Article/3852234/2018-US-patent-cas...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
yes, it was insane for a few yrs. patent law will always be ...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
don't you only need the stem degree if you actually write th...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
patent lit doesn't REQUIRE a stem degree, but it's highly pr...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
what are the best and worst stem degrees to have? 10 years ...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
Depends on case Still EE/CS if I had to pick
Sick tattoo dysfunction
  01/31/19
aren't CS types too aspie to actually make partner though? ...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
it's self-selecting. stem dorks who choose to go to law scho...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
which I guess ties back to your original comment, that there...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
let's put it this way, most biglawyers are aspie, period. th...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
No one is making partner these days because there's a glut o...
Sick tattoo dysfunction
  01/31/19
Dbg is FUCKED
learning disabled base people who are hurt
  01/31/19
Technically, DBG is of counsel. But yeah tomato tomato
Jet-lagged shitlib
  01/31/19
but nobody's making partner in biglaw, period.
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
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supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
i did
laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  01/31/19
although firms these days are pretty willing to get rid of p...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
I don't disagree. My firm fires the vast majority of non-equ...
Sick tattoo dysfunction
  01/31/19
that's pretty much the norm these days. boomers have create...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
that sounds terrible.
laughsome blue hell hunting ground
  01/31/19
anyone with any stem UG degree is smart enough to do any kin...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
"the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think --...
supple onyx kitty
  01/31/19
industrial engineering, operations research, etc. those a...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
Is Irell still a good shop?
learning disabled base people who are hurt
  01/31/19
sure
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
Is Morgan Chu still the most prestigious ip lawyer in the co...
learning disabled base people who are hurt
  01/31/19
he's probably cooling down a bit in his old age.
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
Probably still a gigantic asshole though
Jet-lagged shitlib
  01/31/19
lol at this douchey statement: "Morgan was co-managing ...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
He has a tiny Asian penis. All the TiVo trolling money in th...
Jet-lagged shitlib
  01/31/19
His brothers are also arguably more prestigious than him
learning disabled base people who are hurt
  01/31/19
I vaguely remember that. Remember when he was a user of sexu...
Jet-lagged shitlib
  01/31/19
Ironically he's a massive shitlib who donates tons of money ...
Sick tattoo dysfunction
  01/31/19
rofl their grandpa was a southern baptist: https://en.wik...
motley fanboi
  01/31/19
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motley fanboi
  01/31/19


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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885475)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: violent field milk

I thought patent litigation was dying *and* it's particularly bad for small firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885484)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: navy sex offender state

Have fun filing for bankruptcy within four months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885485)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground

I have an infinite source of small cases but no bankroll- is that how cslg started out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885507)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:26 PM
Author: very tactful flushed crotch immigrant

No clue but I imagine it will be very difficult to find clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885550)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground

i have many clients. the big issue will be getting big companies to settle with a small firm. they will think i don't have the resources to take it the distance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887366)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:50 AM
Author: Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop

We might be able to help each other. Do you have a throwaway email?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887381)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:00 AM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887410)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop

Got it, thx. Will email later today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887424)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop

email sent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887697)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: concupiscible sandwich personal credit line

lol....back when I was a patent agent for an IP boutique (almost all patent pros), I met with some of these "small clients"...smh...fucking nutters think they are gonna get rich with their fucking "genius idea"...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887721)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:57 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

describe the types of weirdos that go into patent law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701588)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: Jet-lagged shitlib

DBG, for one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701777)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: motley fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701778)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:40 PM
Author: Dashing Tripping Gaming Laptop

Hey man check your throwaway gmail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37609647)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:59 PM
Author: motley fanboi

OP: update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701601)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

isn't patent law dead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701611)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:03 PM
Author: motley fanboi

no, it's not "dead"

patent law has been around for 200 years and isnt going anywhere.

can you no longer get a job at quinn working 3000 hours? probably. who cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701617)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

http://www.managingip.com/Article/3852234/2018-US-patent-cases-down-41-from-2015-PTAB-filing-lowest-since-2014.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701625)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: motley fanboi

yes, it was insane for a few yrs. patent law will always be around and profitable. the fact that you (kinda) need a stem degree makes it fairly exclusive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701638)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:10 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

don't you only need the stem degree if you actually write the patents, which a lot of big firms are dropping as a practice? litigation doesn't really require it unless there's an IPR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701659)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:16 PM
Author: motley fanboi

patent lit doesn't REQUIRE a stem degree, but it's highly preferred for a variety of reasons: clients want the lawyers on their matters to have the degree, partners with stem degrees want the associates to have the degree, stem guys are more likely to "get" the technology and the issues.

also, some parts of patent lit -- coming up with the (non)infringement and (in)validity arguments, claim construction, expert reports -- can be highly technical and require a stem aspie to get the issues right.

of course, there are non-stem guys who have success in patent lit. they have to be smart and interested in science/tech, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701686)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

what are the best and worst stem degrees to have? 10 years ago Electrical Engineering was all the rage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701694)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:20 PM
Author: Sick tattoo dysfunction

Depends on case

Still EE/CS if I had to pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701717)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

aren't CS types too aspie to actually make partner though? or argue in court for that matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701736)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: motley fanboi

it's self-selecting. stem dorks who choose to go to law school... and then choose to do patent lit, as opposed to sit in an office writing patents all day, are going to be less aspie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701756)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

which I guess ties back to your original comment, that there are few people that do it, because like 1% of these types are non aspie.

still, if my practice area shrank 40% in a few years that would be highly unnerving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701784)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: motley fanboi

let's put it this way, most biglawyers are aspie, period. the stem degree guys who go into patent lit are probably, on average, just as aspie as your non-patent commercial biglaw litigator. or maybe the patent litigators are slightly more aspie.

the patent bubble coming down is just bad for equity partners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701810)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM
Author: Sick tattoo dysfunction

No one is making partner these days because there's a glut of underutilized partners who came up during the patent lit explosion. Being an associate in patent lit now like being a securities associate 6 years ago after all the financial crisis and recession litigations started winding down. They're fucked.

But plenty of aspies made it 10 years ago - just needed to grind out hours and handle the technical aspects of cases. Boomers can parachute in and handle important oral argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701789)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: learning disabled base people who are hurt

Dbg is FUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701801)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: Jet-lagged shitlib

Technically, DBG is of counsel. But yeah tomato tomato

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701811)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:37 PM
Author: motley fanboi

but nobody's making partner in biglaw, period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701813)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:39 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701825)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground

i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701846)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

although firms these days are pretty willing to get rid of partners without business or with low hours.

honestly, "making partner" isn't what it used to be period. depends on the firm. but there are lots of firms where "of counsel" is a lot safer than "partner" at some firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701837)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: Sick tattoo dysfunction

I don't disagree. My firm fires the vast majority of non-equity partners it makes within 4 or so years of promotion.

Edit: and it isn't a K&E situation, these are people who made "partner" after 8+ years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701847)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

that's pretty much the norm these days. boomers have created such a fucking fraud system. up or out has only benefited them. but I wonder what will happen when the boomers retire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701860)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: laughsome blue hell hunting ground

that sounds terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701861)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:24 PM
Author: motley fanboi

anyone with any stem UG degree is smart enough to do any kind of patent lit.

nobody actually "uses their degree"; that part is mostly flame. the idea that you need a phd in that exact discipline to do a specific type of patent lit cases is lulzy.

that being said, clients and/or partners often want specific degrees for resume and marketing purposes. it's not necessary for the work, though.

the same stem degrees will always be good to have for patent lit -- EE/CS, mechE, chemE, bio/chem/bme.

the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701741)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:25 PM
Author: supple onyx kitty

"the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc"

I don't even know what "IE" or "OR" are (I'm not STEM), but I do know what the others are. So I guess that explains why those ones suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701752)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:27 PM
Author: motley fanboi

industrial engineering, operations research, etc.

those are degrees that people who are too dumb to do a real engineering -- and cant handle the coursework -- get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701764)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: learning disabled base people who are hurt

Is Irell still a good shop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701755)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: motley fanboi

sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701774)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: learning disabled base people who are hurt

Is Morgan Chu still the most prestigious ip lawyer in the country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701780)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM
Author: motley fanboi

he's probably cooling down a bit in his old age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701790)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: Jet-lagged shitlib

Probably still a gigantic asshole though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701800)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:38 PM
Author: motley fanboi

lol at this douchey statement: "Morgan was co-managing partner of the firm for a maximum two terms from 1997 to 2003 and has been a member of its Executive Committee since 1985. He is presently chair of the Litigation group."

https://www.irell.com/lawyers-morgan-chu

who fucking cares what the maximum term is? im sure he could have changed the rules. does anyone care why he didnt serve more than 6 years as co-MP, whether it was bc he was termed out or not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701818)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:40 PM
Author: Jet-lagged shitlib

He has a tiny Asian penis. All the TiVo trolling money in the world won't change that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701830)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: learning disabled base people who are hurt

His brothers are also arguably more prestigious than him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701834)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: Jet-lagged shitlib

I vaguely remember that. Remember when he was a user of sexually harassing some chick partner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701843)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: Sick tattoo dysfunction

Ironically he's a massive shitlib who donates tons of money to people who probably think an accusation should be career ending. He's lucky it came out when it did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701862)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: motley fanboi

rofl their grandpa was a southern baptist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shu-tien_Li

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701844)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: motley fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701836)