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CSLG- Im gonna go solo plaintiff but patent lit- credited?

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histrionic soggy den
  04/20/18
I thought patent litigation was dying *and* it's particularl...
aqua cheese-eating heaven half-breed
  04/20/18
Have fun filing for bankruptcy within four months
Flushed disturbing ladyboy school
  04/20/18
I have an infinite source of small cases but no bankroll- is...
histrionic soggy den
  04/20/18
No clue but I imagine it will be very difficult to find clie...
Learning Disabled Meetinghouse Ape
  04/20/18
i have many clients. the big issue will be getting big comp...
histrionic soggy den
  04/21/18
We might be able to help each other. Do you have a throwaway...
Misunderstood metal house indirect expression
  04/21/18
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histrionic soggy den
  04/21/18
Got it, thx. Will email later today
Misunderstood metal house indirect expression
  04/21/18
email sent
Misunderstood metal house indirect expression
  04/21/18
lol....back when I was a patent agent for an IP boutique (al...
aromatic white rigpig
  04/21/18
describe the types of weirdos that go into patent law.
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
DBG, for one
Olive trump supporter selfie
  01/31/19
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Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
Hey man check your throwaway gmail
Misunderstood metal house indirect expression
  01/17/19
OP: update?
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
isn't patent law dead?
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
no, it's not "dead" patent law has been around ...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
http://www.managingip.com/Article/3852234/2018-US-patent-cas...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
yes, it was insane for a few yrs. patent law will always be ...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
don't you only need the stem degree if you actually write th...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
patent lit doesn't REQUIRE a stem degree, but it's highly pr...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
what are the best and worst stem degrees to have? 10 years ...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
Depends on case Still EE/CS if I had to pick
mewling whorehouse
  01/31/19
aren't CS types too aspie to actually make partner though? ...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
it's self-selecting. stem dorks who choose to go to law scho...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
which I guess ties back to your original comment, that there...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
let's put it this way, most biglawyers are aspie, period. th...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
No one is making partner these days because there's a glut o...
mewling whorehouse
  01/31/19
Dbg is FUCKED
Glittery erotic giraffe
  01/31/19
Technically, DBG is of counsel. But yeah tomato tomato
Olive trump supporter selfie
  01/31/19
but nobody's making partner in biglaw, period.
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
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Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
i did
histrionic soggy den
  01/31/19
although firms these days are pretty willing to get rid of p...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
I don't disagree. My firm fires the vast majority of non-equ...
mewling whorehouse
  01/31/19
that's pretty much the norm these days. boomers have create...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
that sounds terrible.
histrionic soggy den
  01/31/19
anyone with any stem UG degree is smart enough to do any kin...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
"the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think --...
Lascivious self-centered internal respiration
  01/31/19
industrial engineering, operations research, etc. those a...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
Is Irell still a good shop?
Glittery erotic giraffe
  01/31/19
sure
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
Is Morgan Chu still the most prestigious ip lawyer in the co...
Glittery erotic giraffe
  01/31/19
he's probably cooling down a bit in his old age.
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
Probably still a gigantic asshole though
Olive trump supporter selfie
  01/31/19
lol at this douchey statement: "Morgan was co-managing ...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
He has a tiny Asian penis. All the TiVo trolling money in th...
Olive trump supporter selfie
  01/31/19
His brothers are also arguably more prestigious than him
Glittery erotic giraffe
  01/31/19
I vaguely remember that. Remember when he was a user of sexu...
Olive trump supporter selfie
  01/31/19
Ironically he's a massive shitlib who donates tons of money ...
mewling whorehouse
  01/31/19
rofl their grandpa was a southern baptist: https://en.wik...
Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19
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Zippy idea he suggested set
  01/31/19


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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:07 PM
Author: histrionic soggy den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885475)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: aqua cheese-eating heaven half-breed

I thought patent litigation was dying *and* it's particularly bad for small firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885484)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Flushed disturbing ladyboy school

Have fun filing for bankruptcy within four months

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885485)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: histrionic soggy den

I have an infinite source of small cases but no bankroll- is that how cslg started out?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885507)



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Date: April 20th, 2018 9:26 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Meetinghouse Ape

No clue but I imagine it will be very difficult to find clients.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35885550)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: histrionic soggy den

i have many clients. the big issue will be getting big companies to settle with a small firm. they will think i don't have the resources to take it the distance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887366)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 8:50 AM
Author: Misunderstood metal house indirect expression

We might be able to help each other. Do you have a throwaway email?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887381)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:00 AM
Author: histrionic soggy den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887410)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: Misunderstood metal house indirect expression

Got it, thx. Will email later today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887424)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Misunderstood metal house indirect expression

email sent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887697)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: aromatic white rigpig

lol....back when I was a patent agent for an IP boutique (almost all patent pros), I met with some of these "small clients"...smh...fucking nutters think they are gonna get rich with their fucking "genius idea"...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#35887721)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:57 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

describe the types of weirdos that go into patent law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701588)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: Olive trump supporter selfie

DBG, for one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701777)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701778)



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Date: January 17th, 2019 3:40 PM
Author: Misunderstood metal house indirect expression

Hey man check your throwaway gmail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37609647)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 10:59 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

OP: update?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701601)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:02 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

isn't patent law dead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701611)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:03 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

no, it's not "dead"

patent law has been around for 200 years and isnt going anywhere.

can you no longer get a job at quinn working 3000 hours? probably. who cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701617)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:04 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

http://www.managingip.com/Article/3852234/2018-US-patent-cases-down-41-from-2015-PTAB-filing-lowest-since-2014.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701625)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:06 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

yes, it was insane for a few yrs. patent law will always be around and profitable. the fact that you (kinda) need a stem degree makes it fairly exclusive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701638)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:10 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

don't you only need the stem degree if you actually write the patents, which a lot of big firms are dropping as a practice? litigation doesn't really require it unless there's an IPR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701659)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:16 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

patent lit doesn't REQUIRE a stem degree, but it's highly preferred for a variety of reasons: clients want the lawyers on their matters to have the degree, partners with stem degrees want the associates to have the degree, stem guys are more likely to "get" the technology and the issues.

also, some parts of patent lit -- coming up with the (non)infringement and (in)validity arguments, claim construction, expert reports -- can be highly technical and require a stem aspie to get the issues right.

of course, there are non-stem guys who have success in patent lit. they have to be smart and interested in science/tech, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701686)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:18 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

what are the best and worst stem degrees to have? 10 years ago Electrical Engineering was all the rage.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701694)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:20 PM
Author: mewling whorehouse

Depends on case

Still EE/CS if I had to pick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701717)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:23 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

aren't CS types too aspie to actually make partner though? or argue in court for that matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701736)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

it's self-selecting. stem dorks who choose to go to law school... and then choose to do patent lit, as opposed to sit in an office writing patents all day, are going to be less aspie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701756)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:31 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

which I guess ties back to your original comment, that there are few people that do it, because like 1% of these types are non aspie.

still, if my practice area shrank 40% in a few years that would be highly unnerving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701784)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

let's put it this way, most biglawyers are aspie, period. the stem degree guys who go into patent lit are probably, on average, just as aspie as your non-patent commercial biglaw litigator. or maybe the patent litigators are slightly more aspie.

the patent bubble coming down is just bad for equity partners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701810)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM
Author: mewling whorehouse

No one is making partner these days because there's a glut of underutilized partners who came up during the patent lit explosion. Being an associate in patent lit now like being a securities associate 6 years ago after all the financial crisis and recession litigations started winding down. They're fucked.

But plenty of aspies made it 10 years ago - just needed to grind out hours and handle the technical aspects of cases. Boomers can parachute in and handle important oral argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701789)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: Glittery erotic giraffe

Dbg is FUCKED

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701801)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:36 PM
Author: Olive trump supporter selfie

Technically, DBG is of counsel. But yeah tomato tomato

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701811)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:37 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

but nobody's making partner in biglaw, period.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701813)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:39 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701825)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: histrionic soggy den

i did

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701846)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

although firms these days are pretty willing to get rid of partners without business or with low hours.

honestly, "making partner" isn't what it used to be period. depends on the firm. but there are lots of firms where "of counsel" is a lot safer than "partner" at some firms.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701837)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: mewling whorehouse

I don't disagree. My firm fires the vast majority of non-equity partners it makes within 4 or so years of promotion.

Edit: and it isn't a K&E situation, these are people who made "partner" after 8+ years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701847)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:46 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

that's pretty much the norm these days. boomers have created such a fucking fraud system. up or out has only benefited them. but I wonder what will happen when the boomers retire.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701860)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: histrionic soggy den

that sounds terrible.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701861)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:24 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

anyone with any stem UG degree is smart enough to do any kind of patent lit.

nobody actually "uses their degree"; that part is mostly flame. the idea that you need a phd in that exact discipline to do a specific type of patent lit cases is lulzy.

that being said, clients and/or partners often want specific degrees for resume and marketing purposes. it's not necessary for the work, though.

the same stem degrees will always be good to have for patent lit -- EE/CS, mechE, chemE, bio/chem/bme.

the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701741)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:25 PM
Author: Lascivious self-centered internal respiration

"the worst are the degrees that are ones you'd think -- IE, OR, etc"

I don't even know what "IE" or "OR" are (I'm not STEM), but I do know what the others are. So I guess that explains why those ones suck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701752)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:27 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

industrial engineering, operations research, etc.

those are degrees that people who are too dumb to do a real engineering -- and cant handle the coursework -- get.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701764)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:26 PM
Author: Glittery erotic giraffe

Is Irell still a good shop?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701755)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:29 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

sure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701774)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:30 PM
Author: Glittery erotic giraffe

Is Morgan Chu still the most prestigious ip lawyer in the country?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701780)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:33 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

he's probably cooling down a bit in his old age.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701790)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:34 PM
Author: Olive trump supporter selfie

Probably still a gigantic asshole though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701800)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:38 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

lol at this douchey statement: "Morgan was co-managing partner of the firm for a maximum two terms from 1997 to 2003 and has been a member of its Executive Committee since 1985. He is presently chair of the Litigation group."

https://www.irell.com/lawyers-morgan-chu

who fucking cares what the maximum term is? im sure he could have changed the rules. does anyone care why he didnt serve more than 6 years as co-MP, whether it was bc he was termed out or not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701818)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:40 PM
Author: Olive trump supporter selfie

He has a tiny Asian penis. All the TiVo trolling money in the world won't change that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701830)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: Glittery erotic giraffe

His brothers are also arguably more prestigious than him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701834)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: Olive trump supporter selfie

I vaguely remember that. Remember when he was a user of sexually harassing some chick partner?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701843)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:47 PM
Author: mewling whorehouse

Ironically he's a massive shitlib who donates tons of money to people who probably think an accusation should be career ending. He's lucky it came out when it did.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701862)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:42 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set

rofl their grandpa was a southern baptist:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shu-tien_Li

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701844)



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Date: January 31st, 2019 11:41 PM
Author: Zippy idea he suggested set



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955347&forum_id=2#37701836)