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antiabortmos, youve had a LONG time to come up w better arguments

and all youve got is your own conclusion that "It's MUR...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955656&mc=1...
charcoal fluffy azn principal's office
  04/21/18
"I might have more sympathy if the argument was that it...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
I do not agree that Hiroshima was the right thing to do.
Lascivious Son Of Senegal
  04/21/18
well wihtout saying mroe that's just sort of a tangential co...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
And that's the trap. 1. You can't acknowledge that it's...
charcoal fluffy azn principal's office
  04/21/18
all three of your points are correct
irradiated fuchsia gas station
  04/21/18
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180 puppy
  04/21/18
if your an antiabortmo come back when you've grown up a bit....
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
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Aromatic Location
  04/21/18
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alcoholic supple keepsake machete wrinkle
  04/21/18
a little early to be waking and baking spaceporn
exhilarant lavender skinny woman doctorate
  04/21/18
Im thinking Clear As Fuck nao
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
Do you think planned parenthood should get government fundin...
Pearly stage
  04/21/18
of course. here's one reason, quite straightforward: I...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
You seem retarded. LSAT score?
Bearded Ruby Office
  04/21/18
so, you have no comment or response to my points?
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
You didn't make any points. The fact that you think you did...
Bearded Ruby Office
  04/21/18
i made two points. Point one--i dont want more welfare d...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
LOL dumbass
Bearded Ruby Office
  04/21/18
sure. IM the dumbass. so no response from you then. you we...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
He's righ you seem stupid
Talented business firm headpube
  04/21/18
you're just a clump of cells, why is it any more wrong to ab...
arousing milk
  04/21/18
well, we'll see about that. the argument that seems to ...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
It's got nothing to do with Christianity other than the fact...
arousing milk
  04/21/18
i didnt make the argument, friend. i pointed out that so-ca...
Aggressive Dragon
  04/21/18
LSAT score?
heady casino gaming laptop
  04/21/18
n/a
arousing milk
  04/21/18
...
grizzly library persian
  04/21/18
because there are no good arguments against abortion that ar...
Talented business firm headpube
  04/21/18
aiyo lemme get five dolla
Pearly stage
  04/21/18
Agreed.
Dun personal credit line
  04/21/18


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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

and all youve got is your own conclusion that "It's MURDER!" and some pictures.

Letting people who have terminal cancer have all the morphine they want is your sort of "MURDER" too, dimwits.

Engaging in a war where innocent people are gonna die as civilian casualties is your sort of "MURDER" too, dimwits

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887631)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: charcoal fluffy azn principal's office

http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955656&mc=19&forum_id=2#35887729

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887749)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

"I might have more sympathy if the argument was that it is killing a person, but that killing is justified just like so much other killing is justified (euthanasia, war, death penalty, etc.). That argument is at least honest."

But I think this IS more or less the reasoned position on abortion among thinking adults though. The only thing i would add is that "PERSONHOOD" is probably not going to be an all-or-nothing assignment here. If we agree that Hiroshima was ultimately the right thing to do, then civilians killed in hiroshima were certainly PERSONS, but they were PERSONS afforded less consideration than otherwise because they were Japs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887821)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: Lascivious Son Of Senegal

I do not agree that Hiroshima was the right thing to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887839)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

well wihtout saying mroe that's just sort of a tangential comment that doesnt address the point of the prior post.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887851)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: charcoal fluffy azn principal's office

And that's the trap.

1. You can't acknowledge that it's the killing of a person because it cannot be supported politically or maybe legally if you do so.

2. Linking unborn babies to people killed in war is no bueno. Hiroshima was necessary to bring the end to an awful war and the bombing was made as part of the war effort, what comparable necessity exists for killing un-offending unborn babies. Also, there is debate about the morality of it (I think it is fine, but I acknowledge the argument that it was not - area bombing by the allies in WWII is one of those topics that the morality of it is not often discussed).

3. ""PERSONHOOD" is probably not going to be an all-or-nothing assignment here." (Justice Roger Taney)

4. It's the killing of a person but justified is NOT the argument in favor of legal abortion. Ever. It's always mushmouth about women's rights, patriarchy, or other empty bullshit.

5. Most thinking people think that the extra-judicial killing of a child is morally disgusting. Hell, most thinking people think that the judicial killing of convicted felon adults is morally disgusting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887855)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: irradiated fuchsia gas station

all three of your points are correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887638)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: 180 puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887642)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

if your an antiabortmo come back when you've grown up a bit.

Look at my last example carefully.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887644)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Aromatic Location



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887645)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: alcoholic supple keepsake machete wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887663)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: exhilarant lavender skinny woman doctorate

a little early to be waking and baking spaceporn

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887656)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

Im thinking Clear As Fuck nao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887661)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Pearly stage

Do you think planned parenthood should get government funding?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887682)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

of course.

here's one reason, quite straightforward: I dont want a bunch more dependents on the fucking dole, breaking into my car, etc, crying "Imma single mom" and "Darnell good keed".

A second reason is the principle that people should have some measured autonomy over their own bodies. NOTE THE FUCKING MODIFIERS HERE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887693)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Bearded Ruby Office

You seem retarded. LSAT score?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887735)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

so, you have no comment or response to my points?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887741)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Bearded Ruby Office

You didn't make any points. The fact that you think you did makes me question your intelligence. LSAT score?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887745)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:40 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

i made two points.

Point one--i dont want more welfare dependent single mothers and i dont want more poorly raised buckwilds committing crimes.

Point two: bodily integrity of women is something that on balance and in balance needs to be protected.

those are my two points. do i need to say them again before you will respond substantively without making a strawman of my arguments?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887763)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Bearded Ruby Office

LOL dumbass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887819)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

sure. IM the dumbass. so no response from you then. you were waiting for someone to bail you out and no one did?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887828)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Talented business firm headpube

He's righ

you seem stupid

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887848)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: arousing milk

you're just a clump of cells, why is it any more wrong to abort you than a fetus? The only bright line in this debate w/r/t beginning of life is when cellular division starts, i.e. at conception. Anywhere else is a "where do we draw the line" jew debate, which is why soon we'll be debating 3rd trimester or even post-birth abortion if (((they))) get their way.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887696)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

well, we'll see about that.

the argument that seems to work for now is that up to a certain point the fetus is not able to live on its own without medical care and maintenance. and there's a point where it would be able to live on its own if it received additional care for a while.

It will be interesting when we reach a point in technological progress where the fetus can be raised from a clump of cells in an artificial uterus. but i suspect at that point christers will be less of a nuisance than now anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887708)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: arousing milk

It's got nothing to do with Christianity other than the fact that at the time this was being debated, the most prominent intellectuals were Christians. This is one of the few times that Christian morality lines up with what I'll cal.

Even with your argument that a fetus is unable to live on its own without medical care and maintenance, that applies to children under probably 10-12 years old! They can't cook for themselves, change their own diapers, etc.

What also of those on life support after an accident or disease, are they also undeserving of life since they can't sustain themselves?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887743)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: Aggressive Dragon

i didnt make the argument, friend. i pointed out that so-called "viability" IS a rationale for line drawing at present. it certainly is not perfect, but where and how to draw the line is a different question from should a line be drawn somewhere.

Profound stuff. i hope you can follow.

and yes, its mostly christers of various ilk who are antiabortmos at present. also, i imagine there's a fair group of atheist incels who feel the same way, for reason ive already elucidated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887771)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: heady casino gaming laptop

LSAT score?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887776)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: arousing milk

n/a

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887818)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: grizzly library persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887806)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: Talented business firm headpube

because there are no good arguments against abortion that aren't emotion-driven and as you said, backed up by pictures of mangled fetuses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887852)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: Pearly stage

aiyo lemme get five dolla

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887860)



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Date: April 21st, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: Dun personal credit line

Agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3955672&forum_id=2#35887872)