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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
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bat shit crazy community account hairy legs
  04/22/18
depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
big ivory hall
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walnut home
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
dashing sooty giraffe elastic band
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Adventurous rambunctious pozpig
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
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racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
ultramarine locale
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
cyan swollen office
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
vigorous rose stage
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
stubborn internet-worthy party of the first part
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
odious zombie-like set
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Nofapping really tough guy ratface
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
racy slap-happy toilet seat
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Laughsome amber alpha
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
Laughsome amber alpha
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drab rehab
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
Charismatic turdskin
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nudist slate coldplay fan electric furnace
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
vigorous rose stage
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
Indecent yapping address
  04/23/18
cr
talented chapel laser beams
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
Charismatic turdskin
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Topaz Foreskin
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
glittery mother
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
Aphrodisiac clear cruise ship
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
Buff Masturbator New Version
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
Self-absorbed Burgundy Sandwich Crackhouse
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: bat shit crazy community account hairy legs



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: big ivory hall

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: walnut home



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: dashing sooty giraffe elastic band

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Adventurous rambunctious pozpig

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: ultramarine locale

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: cyan swollen office

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: vigorous rose stage

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: stubborn internet-worthy party of the first part

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: odious zombie-like set

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Nofapping really tough guy ratface

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: racy slap-happy toilet seat

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Laughsome amber alpha

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Laughsome amber alpha

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: drab rehab



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: Charismatic turdskin

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: nudist slate coldplay fan electric furnace



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: vigorous rose stage

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Indecent yapping address

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: talented chapel laser beams

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Charismatic turdskin

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Topaz Foreskin

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: glittery mother

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac clear cruise ship

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Buff Masturbator New Version

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Self-absorbed Burgundy Sandwich Crackhouse

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)