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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
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Lime locus chad
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Gaped Nursing Home Ladyboy
  04/22/18
depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
exhilarant prole
  04/22/18
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Overrated bawdyhouse doctorate
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
180 onyx cuck site
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
Brindle zombie-like regret
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
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Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
supple stage
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
frozen idea he suggested
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Swashbuckling voyeur
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
Effete Center Persian
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
clear pocket flask
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Adventurous range brethren
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Lime locus chad
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
spectacular principal's office
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
spectacular principal's office
  04/23/18
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submissive vigorous step-uncle's house weed whacker
  04/23/18
Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
rusted multi-billionaire national security agency
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Gold main people electric furnace
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
Swashbuckling voyeur
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
irradiated school cafeteria
  04/23/18
cr
Fragrant Azure Sanctuary
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
rusted multi-billionaire national security agency
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Sooty Razzle Black Woman Parlor
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
odious startled theatre mediation
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
bossy fantasy-prone property
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
Comical gaping whorehouse
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
abusive digit ratio
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Lime locus chad

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Lime locus chad



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Gaped Nursing Home Ladyboy



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: exhilarant prole

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Overrated bawdyhouse doctorate



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Lime locus chad

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: 180 onyx cuck site

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Lime locus chad

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Brindle zombie-like regret

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Lime locus chad

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Lime locus chad



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: supple stage

no idea but FUCK KIKES

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: frozen idea he suggested

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Swashbuckling voyeur

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Effete Center Persian

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: clear pocket flask

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Adventurous range brethren

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Lime locus chad

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: spectacular principal's office

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: spectacular principal's office

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: submissive vigorous step-uncle's house weed whacker



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: rusted multi-billionaire national security agency

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Gold main people electric furnace



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Swashbuckling voyeur

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: irradiated school cafeteria

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Fragrant Azure Sanctuary

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: rusted multi-billionaire national security agency

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Sooty Razzle Black Woman Parlor

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: odious startled theatre mediation

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: bossy fantasy-prone property

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Comical gaping whorehouse

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: abusive digit ratio

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)