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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
pearl big nursing home crotch
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henna sadistic hell
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
Fishy diverse depressive clown
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Indigo shivering dilemma
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
pearl big nursing home crotch
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
Khaki nowag potus
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
pearl big nursing home crotch
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
lavender athletic conference boltzmann
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
pearl big nursing home crotch
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pearl big nursing home crotch
  04/22/18
no idea but FUCK KIKES
Magenta box office
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
Violent scourge upon the earth
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
multi-colored office
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
sooty set pozpig
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
abnormal codepig prole
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Swashbuckling double fault
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
pearl big nursing home crotch
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
Razzle-dazzle Red Foreskin
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
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Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
Light Community Account Field
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Hairraiser Umber Tank Bawdyhouse
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
multi-colored office
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
Beta Pale Police Squad Corn Cake
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cr
crawly slippery spot
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
Light Community Account Field
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Slap-happy spectacular casino
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
Vengeful corner
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
mustard up-to-no-good famous landscape painting halford
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
Hairless pervert university
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If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: henna sadistic hell



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Fishy diverse depressive clown

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Indigo shivering dilemma



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Khaki nowag potus

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: lavender athletic conference boltzmann

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Magenta box office

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Violent scourge upon the earth

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: multi-colored office

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: sooty set pozpig

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: abnormal codepig prole

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Swashbuckling double fault

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: pearl big nursing home crotch

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Red Foreskin

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Red Foreskin

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: nofapping chapel affirmative action



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: Light Community Account Field

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Hairraiser Umber Tank Bawdyhouse



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: multi-colored office

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Beta Pale Police Squad Corn Cake

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: crawly slippery spot

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Light Community Account Field

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Slap-happy spectacular casino

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Vengeful corner

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: mustard up-to-no-good famous landscape painting halford

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Hairless pervert university

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Pungent Out-of-control Crackhouse Milk

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)