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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

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Owning a home is risky.
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ITT: people who don't live in NYC
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2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Ivory bespoke corn cake



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: Chocolate Step-uncle's House Athletic Conference

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Startled brunch haunted graveyard



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: Diverse Senate

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: Zippy white halford kitchen

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: Histrionic church building

no idea but FUCK KIKES

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: Provocative frum chad

Owning a home is risky.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Crimson area

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: Odious lemon lettuce boltzmann

lulzy observation

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: bull headed puce orchestra pit

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: magenta supple casino

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: frozen aromatic organic girlfriend university

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: Submissive Heaven

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: Submissive Heaven

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: Fantasy-prone People Who Are Hurt



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: Opaque stage

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Crimson area

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: beady-eyed navy native

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: vibrant turdskin

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Opaque stage

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy Cordovan Gay Wizard

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Pink hyperactive black woman cruise ship

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: contagious hateful personal credit line

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: federal faggotry garrison

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Spectacular Flickering Place Of Business Theatre

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)