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Explain how renting is better than buying if rent and mortgage/taxes = same

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of pur...
Razzle business firm idea he suggested
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Very tactful hissy fit
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depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what ...
walnut wagecucks
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odious indigo double fault doctorate
  04/22/18
the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is g...
Razzle business firm idea he suggested
  04/22/18
additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally ag...
green mood famous landscape painting
  04/22/18
i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying coul...
Razzle business firm idea he suggested
  04/22/18
I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seatt...
avocado elastic band roast beef
  04/22/18
How much is your rent in seattle thats another thing - be...
Razzle business firm idea he suggested
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Razzle business firm idea he suggested
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no idea but FUCK KIKES
stimulating federal pit son of senegal
  04/22/18
Owning a home is risky.
racy lavender azn
  04/22/18
ITT: people who don't live in NYC
Light Shivering Ceo
  04/22/18
lulzy observation
obsidian bearded gaping
  04/22/18
There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're fo...
Domesticated gunner parlour
  04/22/18
Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can b...
Bistre arousing goal in life area
  04/22/18
I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in ren...
Razzle business firm idea he suggested
  04/22/18
2% to 5% to purchase. 6%+ to sell.
insecure irradiated stage people who are hurt
  04/23/18
Issues: - Opportunity cost of down payment. - Maintena...
insecure irradiated stage people who are hurt
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Citrine Adventurous Fanboi
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Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wro...
180 copper turdskin theatre
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Nofapping painfully honest forum
  04/23/18
my rent: 2400/month mortgage for a place in my neighborho...
Light Shivering Ceo
  04/23/18
but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One...
Crimson histrionic toilet seat marketing idea
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cr
swashbuckling orchestra pit
  04/23/18
interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property t...
180 copper turdskin theatre
  04/23/18
it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming m...
Brilliant gaped indian lodge dingle berry
  04/23/18
also, your rent keeps going up. otoh, your 30 year fixed ...
Multi-colored hateful corner
  04/23/18
Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where th...
Disgusting Personal Credit Line
  04/23/18
For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your paym...
Hairraiser crackhouse patrolman
  04/23/18
If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payme...
Talented hairless heaven brethren
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Date: April 22nd, 2018 5:59 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested

If I rent a place for $2000/mo, and I have the option of purchasing a home for $2000/mo (30 year 4.5% mortgage for $350,000 home and including taxes), why would this not be wise to do?

The $2000 to rent I will never see again. The $2000 into the home, at least 3/4 of that goes into my purchase of the home.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895596)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Very tactful hissy fit



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:11 PM
Author: walnut wagecucks

depends on what return you get on your down payment vs what you would get in the stock market and also interest expense tax savings

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895675)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: odious indigo double fault doctorate



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested

the first is kind of a wash because i have no idea what is going to happen to the stock market next year. generally it has gone up at an 8% rate over a long term period but will that continue.

on the second point do you just mean tax deductible interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895712)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:16 PM
Author: green mood famous landscape painting

additional costs in maintaining a home though i generally agree especially because rent is usually going to be higher than a mortgage on a similar place.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895702)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:19 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested

i am looking at these places where the rent i am paying could actually buy a nice condo or townhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895715)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: avocado elastic band roast beef

I told my sister how much in rent I had been paying in Seattle (23% greater than the national average) she was flabbergasted and replied, "That's more than my MORTGAGE!"

I would think you should buy, not rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895749)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested

How much is your rent in seattle

thats another thing - being locked in at a "rent" i'd be paying 25 years from now would be nice, rather than having to pay something 3x what i'd be paying down the road

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35895798)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:48 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:50 PM
Author: stimulating federal pit son of senegal

no idea but FUCK KIKES

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897428)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 10:49 PM
Author: racy lavender azn

Owning a home is risky.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897424)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: Light Shivering Ceo

ITT: people who don't live in NYC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897506)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:10 PM
Author: obsidian bearded gaping

lulzy observation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897546)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:07 PM
Author: Domesticated gunner parlour

There's a lot of upkeep in maintaining a home, and you're forgetting purchase/closing costs. Owning a home is great if you buy a decent house in a neighborhood you'll stay in for 5+ years but the math isn't as simple as you think.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897536)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Bistre arousing goal in life area

Its expensive to buy and sell homes. Transaction costs can be significant.

But you're right that you're much better off buying than renting in much of the country. Most of us just don't live in those places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897543)



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Date: April 22nd, 2018 11:12 PM
Author: Razzle business firm idea he suggested

I live in a big metro. I think it makes sense to lock in rent 20 years down the road. I have no plans to move. How much are transaction costs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35897559)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:14 AM
Author: insecure irradiated stage people who are hurt

2% to 5% to purchase.

6%+ to sell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898628)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:12 AM
Author: insecure irradiated stage people who are hurt

Issues:

- Opportunity cost of down payment.

- Maintenance and insurance costs.

- Significant transaction costs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898626)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: Citrine Adventurous Fanboi



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:56 AM
Author: 180 copper turdskin theatre

Already op talking about 'mortgage' makes this thread go wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898661)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: Nofapping painfully honest forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898662)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:14 AM
Author: Light Shivering Ceo

my rent: 2400/month

mortgage for a place in my neighborhood: 3500/month minimum, plus taxes, plus every other fucking thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35898668)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Crimson histrionic toilet seat marketing idea

but you have to actually save and invest the difference. One aspect about mortgages that seems overlooked on xo is that it's forced savings for low impulse control proles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901684)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: swashbuckling orchestra pit

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901792)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: 180 copper turdskin theatre

interest payment part of mortgage - tax credits + property tax + local fees + transaction costs annualised + maintenance + increase in value - decrease in value

vs

rent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901579)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Brilliant gaped indian lodge dingle berry

it's mostly just being tied down the location and becoming more illiquid. otherwise yeah, rent is always a 100% negative return while owning is usually positive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901596)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Multi-colored hateful corner

also, your rent keeps going up.

otoh, your 30 year fixed mortgage stays the same for 30 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901645)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Disgusting Personal Credit Line

Property taxes will go up tho unless you live in CA where they’re mostly flat

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901670)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Hairraiser crackhouse patrolman

For the first 20 years on a 30-yr mortgage most of your payment goes towards interest

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901702)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Talented hairless heaven brethren

If all monthly costs are the same (accounting for down payment, opportunity costs, etc), owning has the benefits of building equity.

That's about it. The calculation can obviously be complicated and is speculative once you get into housing prices/rents/taxes changing.

Imho if you can buy for about what you're paying in rent and make significant equity each month and won't be leaving quickly enough that transaction costs will pwn you, it's worth looking for something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3956707&forum_id=2#35901752)