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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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slate cracking hairy legs trailer park
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
slate cracking hairy legs trailer park
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
Sepia Garrison Prole
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
slate cracking hairy legs trailer park
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
Sepia Garrison Prole
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
slate cracking hairy legs trailer park
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
Sepia Garrison Prole
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
slate cracking hairy legs trailer park
  04/23/18
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Appetizing Native
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: slate cracking hairy legs trailer park



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: slate cracking hairy legs trailer park

colloquialism*

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: Sepia Garrison Prole

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: slate cracking hairy legs trailer park

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: Sepia Garrison Prole

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: slate cracking hairy legs trailer park

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: Sepia Garrison Prole

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: slate cracking hairy legs trailer park

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Appetizing Native



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