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the colloqualism "has-been" should really be "had-been"

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lascivious lake crackhouse
  04/23/18
colloquialism*
lascivious lake crackhouse
  04/23/18
Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?
histrionic clown
  04/23/18
Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimens...
lascivious lake crackhouse
  04/23/18
Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might wel...
histrionic clown
  04/23/18
"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ...
lascivious lake crackhouse
  04/23/18
The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been...
histrionic clown
  04/23/18
Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.
lascivious lake crackhouse
  04/23/18
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Iridescent Selfie Public Bath
  04/23/18


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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: lascivious lake crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901682)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: lascivious lake crackhouse

colloquialism*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901686)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:39 PM
Author: histrionic clown

Then how are we to refer to deceased has-beens?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901769)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: lascivious lake crackhouse

Still technically a had-been, but with the additional dimension of having ceased to be alive. But if you really want to distinguish the living from the dead, then I'd go with "the late had-been."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35902474)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 5:00 PM
Author: histrionic clown

Current losers are has-beens. A current “had-been” might well have circled back around to being once more. “Had-been” says nothing about his current state of being (or Dasein).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35903071)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: lascivious lake crackhouse

"Had" signals that a state of being has certainly ended ("He had been one of the best hitters on the team"). "Has" signals that the state of being occurred in the past and may or may not be continuing ("He has been one of the best hitters on the team"), so it's "has been" that is ambiguous to the current state of being.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35903887)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:28 PM
Author: histrionic clown

The in-the-past part is covered by the unchanging "been".

Nah I'm just trolling. I do think "has-been" sounds better, though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904430)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 8:32 PM
Author: lascivious lake crackhouse

Agree. I'm just into grammar these days.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35904458)



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Date: April 23rd, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Iridescent Selfie Public Bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3957492&forum_id=2#35901780)