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CharlesXII dating manager giving update, taking q's (Krampus)
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: flesh judgmental state Over the last 24 hours, CharlesXII has raised $120 from XO poasters to finance his paid dating site profiles. Charles is humbled by this outpouring of support and wants to pass on that he's incredibly grateful to all of his fans and well-wishers. You can donate BTC at 3QYLKs9iaHYv7sggSqPn2EhpzNb29UXfq6 and ETH at 0x152254596a939FC4d44dcA04e0F5F06836555d2c
CharlesXII has upgraded his OKCupid profile to A-List. I'm pleased to report that we have learned the identity of FIVE girls who "liked" his profile.
Three of these girls were heathen degenerates that Charles has no interest in dating. One was an obese pansexual, one was bi, and one identified as a "vampire" - these have been dismissed from further consideration. We are currently pursuing three girls on OKC:
(1) a girl with a very weird pet. We won't out what it is, but it's something in the raccoon or opossum tier of rarity.
(2) An African-American girl who likes video games.
(3) A petite, very attractive blonde Catholic girl who is very family focused.
Charles has already, or will shortly send messages to all three of these women. Again, they have all viewed his profile and hit "liked"
Separately, I can confirm that Charles has sent an email to an IRL girl he met at a church function. Said email makes an offer of going to do an outdoors activity together.
I'm now available for questions. |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:16 AM Author: Internet-worthy travel guidebook corner Prior to entering the NFL, Davenport allegedly broke into the dorm room of a Barry University woman and defecated in a laundry basket on April 1, 2002.[6] A woman sleeping in the room told police she was startled by a strange grunting sound and observed Davenport in a squatted position, evacuating his bowels and voiding into a laundry hamper in her closet.[7][8] In a plea bargain, his felony charge of second-degree burglary and misdemeanor count of criminal mischief were dropped in exchange for his completing 100 hours of community service.[9] Davenport maintained his innocence after the hearing, demanding outside of the courthouse, "Where's the evidence? Where's the manure? I know I didn't do it – I just wanted to get it over with."[10] During his career, Davenport was given the nicknames "Dookie"[11] and "The Dump Truck."[12] While playing for the Packers, a portable commode was placed inside of his locker during training camp as a rookie hazing prank,[13] and a spirited letter writing campaign to the Green Bay team equipment manager asked in jest that he be issued jersey Number Two for practice,[14] which is still referenced during the opening of the "D-List" show on WAUK ESPN 540 in Milwaukee.[15] All are plays on the incident.
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Date: May 12th, 2018 8:38 AM Author: greedy garrison Excellent point, plop plop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035539) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:20 AM Author: Tantric doobsian fat ankles therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060460) |
Date: April 25th, 2018 8:01 PM Author: glittery locus partner in your opinion, is (3) a reach girl or a target girl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920624) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:02 PM Author: flesh judgmental state Every Catholic or Orthodox Christian girl in the greater DC area is a target girl. I would say that girl 3 is upper tier in physical attractiveness among our current target population. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920634) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:40 PM Author: glittery locus partner target meaning fairly confident he can obtain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920888) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:03 PM Author: Jade shitlib Im personally rooting for church girl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920637) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:41 PM Author: Flatulent Provocative Lay Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920898) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:44 PM Author: Mentally impaired canary puppy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920918) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:04 PM Author: Poppy Crotch Bawdyhouse Are 1 and 2 cute? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920643) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish 1, not really, and we have very little in common. However, she liked me so Krampus is strongly encouraging me to message/set up a date just for the sake of practice.
2 is a little more appealing across the board but once again it'd probably just be for practice.
Only 3 + irl church girl are truly interesting I'd say. |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: Poppy Crotch Bawdyhouse Good luck. Very much rooting for you here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920681) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:39 AM Author: Jade shitlib i know ive already told you this, but i agree w krampus and highly encourage you to chat up 1 & 2 and take them out on dates for practice.
that being said i am super super rooting for church girl. wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:04 PM Author: dull hall faggot firefighter how many cocks has (3) likely taken? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920646) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:07 PM Author: flesh judgmental state well she's a 91% match with Charles and professes strong Catholic values so hopefully not that many (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920670) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:08 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish (guy who hasn't met many DC Catholics) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920684) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant (Georgetown UG) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920743) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: Grizzly bespoke indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035038) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:17 PM Author: dull hall faggot firefighter dont those girls just lie about it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920762) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:01 PM Author: Vibrant Mauve Police Squad Stage The two hottest most devout Christians in HS were virgins saving themselves for marriage ... so they would only suck their boyfriends' cocks and have them fuck their asses and eat their pussies not flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921003) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:43 AM Author: Jade shitlib there was a girl like this in my circle of friends in college. she was a 'virgin' bc she was religious but ALWAYS gave blowjobs on the first date. made absolutely no sense to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922967) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: Drab french chef rigor translation: potentially zero (in the pussy). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924471) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:06 PM Author: onyx cumskin more on 2? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920654) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:06 PM Author: Frozen Fishy Chad Dilemma Oh what, so he's too good for vampires now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920657) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:10 PM Author: Jade shitlib Actual lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920701) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:53 PM Author: Supple angry church building (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921699) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:14 PM Author: Thriller Kitchen I don't get it, either. You think the shared interest of drinking the blood of the undead would be a plus. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920735) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:34 PM Author: big erotic alpha property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929061) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:14 PM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920740) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:16 PM Author: Idiotic Puce Sanctuary Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920753) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:18 PM Author: Flushed principal's office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920785) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:42 PM Author: Flatulent Provocative Lay Stain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920900) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:19 PM Author: Coral tripping telephone reading party why r u asking for money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920788) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:23 PM Author: flesh judgmental state Motivation. CharlesXII is a cheap miser, he'd never spend $9.95 on something as frivolous as a dating profile. If other people give him money for that purpose, he'll be shamed into spending it though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920805) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:43 PM Author: Flatulent Provocative Lay Stain Actually he's poor as fuck. Probably bottom 5% of xo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920904) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:32 AM Author: Drunken Base so will this logic apply to his dates as well? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922947) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:31 AM Author: Drunken Base (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922943) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:35 PM Author: flesh judgmental state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920858) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 8:44 PM Author: Magenta market can u message the vampire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35920920) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:00 PM Author: flesh judgmental state they're only a 30% match, she believes morality is relative, she would be willing to sleep on first date, she does not believe that contraception and homosexuality are sins
she has nothing in common with Charles. I don't know why she liked his profile. |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:06 PM Author: Flatulent Provocative Lay Stain Won't get hair stuck in her fangs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921026) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:09 PM Author: Jade shitlib She might be looking for virgin blood to drink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921036) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:13 PM Author: flesh judgmental state shit, you're right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921047) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:48 PM Author: at-the-ready diverse mad-dog skullcap son of senegal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921242) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:44 AM Author: Vigorous Brethren Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923213) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: slap-happy amber spot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924349) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:38 PM Author: Idiotic Puce Sanctuary Pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929078) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030576) |
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Date: May 13th, 2018 8:27 AM Author: glassy abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36040561) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:21 AM Author: Tantric doobsian fat ankles therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060465) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:16 PM Author: Magenta market it would be great content creation though. give her some hypotheticals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921067) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:36 AM Author: sienna striped hyena scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923185) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:14 PM Author: infuriating stage newt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35931426) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:20 PM Author: Violent duck-like school bbw judging by that UWS thread you're like the nicest person on this board (not racist, care what happens to people poorer than you)
what brings you to this shithole |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:24 PM Author: flesh judgmental state I once made the mistake of going to law school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921098) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:26 PM Author: Violent duck-like school bbw how do you stand it here? the lack of empathy that so many posters have often makes me want to tear my hair out. it's just so casual and non-controversial too, they're not even ashamed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921108) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 9:30 PM Author: flesh judgmental state there's always been casual racism on XO, what's changed now is how aggressive the racists are. they used to stick to their own threads. Now, not only do they make 3-4x the number of racist threads, but they'll barge into other threads and be like "DID YOU KNOW I HATE BLACK PEOPLE???"
but, alas, on a good day when the toxic race realism posters are not around, this can still be a great place to talk about the International Federation of Naked Bodybuilders and the relative prestige of MBA programs
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030578) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:08 PM Author: flesh judgmental state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921366) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen "Over the last 24 hours, CharlesXII has raised $120 from XO poasters to finance his paid dating site profile"
lol, isn't that 3 ppl? |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:42 AM Author: Jade shitlib im going to donate $ too, i just havent yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922964) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:09 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Update: Church chick has accepted invitation to outdoor event. We'll see what unfolds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921848) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:10 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn 18000000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921851) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:11 PM Author: onyx cumskin nice man! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921864) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:12 PM Author: Magenta market holy shit
what was the church event |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:16 PM Author: maroon dog poop 180
Great exciting feeling right? |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:25 PM Author: zippy lettuce trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35921959) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:48 PM Author: Effete mood 180. This will actually work out for you if you give it a solid try. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922116) |
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Date: April 25th, 2018 11:49 PM Author: aromatic cruise ship sound barrier Good job dude, don't stop churning out messages and trying to line up other dates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922130) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:36 AM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922953) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:06 AM Author: Jade shitlib !!!!!!!!!!!!! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922928) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:32 AM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923177) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:33 AM Author: Concupiscible sooty messiness ape 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923181) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:45 AM Author: Vigorous Brethren Weed Whacker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923215) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant CRUSH THAT CUNNUS YOU SON OF CHRIST (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924345) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: slap-happy amber spot 180 rootin for u (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924356) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen best investment I've ever made (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924409) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:45 PM Author: Thriller Kitchen Do we have to kick in for dinner now too? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35926484) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 4:46 PM Author: glittery locus partner 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35926492) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Costumed halford 180000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927511) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Beady-eyed pit legend *Sends you Peteyboi's lube* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35933570) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 4:06 PM Author: Self-absorbed fuchsia turdskin field Pee inside of her with sperm! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35933703) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:16 AM Author: exhilarant beta stock car Go back to India. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922932) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:29 AM Author: Drunken Base republicans taking handouts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35922941) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:06 AM Author: trip navy locale sneaky criminal Can we at least get pics of matches c12 isn't pursuing? Seems pretty low risk from an outing perspective; the doobses already know his IRL identity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923644) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 10:36 AM Author: flesh judgmental state (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35923839) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: lascivious nighttime filthpig genocide all niggers btw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35924408) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: flesh judgmental state he just got "LIKED" by a Catholic girl with a 96% match!
we need to pressure him into messaging her. he seems put off by the fact that she is a bit chubby. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Thriller Kitchen He should go on the date and talk about fasting as a weapon in the spiritual arsenal and see if she bites.
https://www.catholicgentleman.net/2014/04/spiritual-weapons-fasting/ |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:29 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927584) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:40 PM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927671) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:37 PM Author: big erotic alpha property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929076) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:22 AM Author: Tantric doobsian fat ankles therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060470) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish That is far from the only reason. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927556) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: flesh judgmental state breh you need experience with the actual mechanics of dating right now. you should not be refusing possible dates with chicks just because you don't think they are a viable long term match (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927561) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:28 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn CR Chuck, beggars cannot be choosers. You need REPS before you're ready to MAX OUT |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:27 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Well I messaged her and she responded so we'll probably get practice at least. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929021) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:28 PM Author: flesh judgmental state 987654323456789 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929030) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn Transition to asking for irl meetup in NO MORE THAN 5 MESSAGES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929038) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish She said she's willing to teach me bowling in her first message so fuck it, may just ask now.
Chad mindset |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: flesh judgmental state are you connected enough to get into the White House bowling alley or the EOB bowling alley? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929056) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: aphrodisiac jet stead wagecucks Wait the White House AND the EOB have bowling alleys? How many executive-branch bowling alleys are the taxpayers funding, exactly?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35932479) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35932511) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:35 PM Author: Vivacious mad cow disease church 190 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929063) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 11:36 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn 180 billion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35929068) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 1:57 PM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35932505) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 3:49 PM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35933550) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen she also apparently has a picture of herself from Otakon, a popular DC anime convention that I will likely drag C12 to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35927564) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: Beady-eyed pit legend Don't force Charles to date chubby girls, bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#35933566) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: flesh judgmental state He needs the experience
But a very fit girl also just liked him |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Update- Church chick has just CANCELED out of hike tomorrow. Rate dunhere status based on this email message:
"Hey, Charles, I know I was planning to go tomorrow with [parish group] but I just got off a long stretch of days / nights at work and I have to go back on Sunday, so it just doesn't seem like a good idea survival-wise. My body is too ready to shut down for a few hours at least. :P
Sorry I can't come this time. I will see you another time soon, I hope?
God bless!" |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: flesh judgmental state so what should he do here:
Option 1: wait until another church event is performed, invite her to that Option 2: flip the script and ask her out to a non-church thing |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Option 3: Accept dunhere status and slink back to cavern. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030568) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker NO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030592) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: mahogany adventurous lodge Extremely Cr. Also drink bleach in that cavern (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030601) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Jade shitlib Option 3- listen to jcm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030574) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: mahogany adventurous lodge Yes, listen to some fat forty year old female incel for dating advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030597) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Jade shitlib Hey jjc! Hope youre having a good day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030613) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Aggressive Mother lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031181) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Thriller Kitchen Crucifix and chill. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030580) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Jade shitlib Did you see my text (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030564) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Thriller Kitchen What does this chick do that she can't hike for a few hours? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030566) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:01 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Nurse, and relatively new at the job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030573) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop Honestly, seems reasonable.
Also lets you know where you stand. I don't think your done here just yet. Give her a quick "very understandable, will get back with you later in the week to reschedule something different/more fun. *Thumbs up emoji*"
Call her on Wednesday at the earliest. If she negs you, your done here and never contact her again unless she contacts you first. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Jade shitlib This is also acceptable course of action (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030629) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030633) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: onyx cumskin that is a really hard message to read. think you might be done here bro, that sucks. :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030575) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Counterpoint: She took the initiative of friending me on FB just a few days ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030590) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: onyx cumskin maybe you could turn it around by asking when's the next time she'll have a couple days off in a row and suggesting something a little different like a hike or picnic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030596) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig Do not do this. Do not suggest more dates after she cancels on you. If she is interested she will ask about another date. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030609) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker I disagree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030626) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: White circlehead cr
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: onyx cumskin admittedly this would be doubling down, there's no coming back if she says no again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030628) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker who fucking cares? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030636) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish True, but there's also "no coming back" if I suggest nothing and she fails to take the initiative. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030661) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030666) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: onyx cumskin yes, be realistic about the cost but go for it, man. it definitely seems worth a shot here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030671) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: slate house-broken range She already asked.
" I will see you another time soon, I hope? " |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: Jade shitlib Cr
If she was absolutely not interested in spending time w him
1- she wouldnt have initiated the facebook add 2- she would have said "i cant come, but thanks for invite"
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic This.
Charles is absolutely not done here.
And he should suggest another date. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030866) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: aphrodisiac jet stead wagecucks 100% jump on it. That last line is as aggressive as a girl who signs her emails “God Bless” is going to get. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030961) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:53 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030970) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Jade shitlib Crrr
This isnt a blown out tinder slore. This is a chick he organically met at CHURCH. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031001) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030611) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: Jade shitlib And you spent a lot of time talking to her the first time you met
Dont listen to the naysayers. Go for it. Worst case scenario she says no. Then its done and you can move on. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030630) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: very tactful theater stage Just got off a long stretch of nights with a Pious Chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030579) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig “Oh thats too bad. No problem. Feel better.”
Do not suggest a follow up date. If she is interested she will do that. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030615) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop If not my suggestion, this one works too.
Move on, but keep the door open. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker what does he lose by fucking asking? This is dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030625) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn gives her all the power, which is beta he already made the first move by inviting her to something in the first place, so he's sufficiently demonstrated his interest. If the interest is mutual, she will atone for her flaking. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker lol at going through all these games. If she's interested she'll say yes and if she's not she say no. Seems like an easy way to cut to the chase. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030645) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn dating women is a game 100% of the time you have to play to win |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig Nah tons of girls drag it out and go on dates with guys because they don’t have anything better to do or don’t want to seem mean. Esp this type of church girl. I agree she may be interested still and if she is then it’s no problem at all for her to offer an idea.
Maybe my proposed msg was too terse and C12 can close with “and sure I’d like to go out again - let me know what works for you.” But don’t go suggesting other dates and times |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker I'd maybe say something more direct like: "is there a day that might work better for you?"
Then if she's still non-committal you know she's not interested. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: White circlehead cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030825) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: White circlehead cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030819) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: onyx cumskin she's at a new job and clearly a bit overwhelmed, she needs someone to take the initiative even if they need to work with her schedule. charles can be that person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030650) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker YES (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030698) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030725) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig IME every single time a girl has canceled it is because she is not interested and deigning to offer up more ideas and more dates is just loserish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030639) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker assuming she canceled because she's not interested (I'm not willing to concede that point btw), then who gives a FLYING FUCK whether some dumb app slut thinks our sweet trad cath boy is a loser?
It just comes off a little autistic to automatically assume that she's not interested because she didn't vigorously suggest a new time. People don't always "follow the rules". |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig Well I tell girls up front they have to follow the rules because I’m autistic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030674) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: onyx cumskin this is stupid and you should feel bad giving dating advice really we all should, what is going on here |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030692) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030701) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:16 PM Author: ruddy heaven gaping he's setting himself up for an awkward pity date, just forget her and move on. ALL IN chicks only, no half-steppers for C-Tweezy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030687) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030704) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker maybe, maybe not. That's part of dating. What's important is that we've started the conversation with c12 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030708) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn lol at C-Tweezy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030720) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop I always give at least 1 second chance. Shit happens and I get it.
I don't like the date he had planned though. Dates need to be one-on-one, at night.
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig The date was a good idea considering what he wants out of it and the type of girl he is targeting.
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: onyx cumskin he should definitely suggest a day date, but one on one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030732) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:23 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker why "definitely" a day date? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030739) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: onyx cumskin if she's a kindly parish girl he's going to scare her if he's *too* forward (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030759) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop I can't imagine C-Tweezy ever being *too* forward in any universe. Even Catholic girls dig confidence and assertiveness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030780) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: onyx cumskin true and true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030792) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker Chad12 needs to metaphorically grab her by the pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030852) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: slate house-broken range I don't think this is that bad. I would reschedule with her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030627) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030681) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030868) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:31 AM Author: Self-absorbed fuchsia turdskin field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035012) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:16 PM Author: rose domesticated university That's not that bad. Your defeatism is poisoning your mind. Tojours cran (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030686) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Heady Rehab If she really wanted to see you again she would have proposed an alternative. You fucked up by not accepting that ride home. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030979) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish This is an entirely different person breh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030985) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: charcoal hideous theatre You should try to find charles a hot brazilian catholic girl who's au pair-ing in virigina. play up his political clout and his piousness. imagining him with some smoking brazilian makes me happy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030584) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:06 PM Author: flesh judgmental state he was, in fact, "liked" on OKC by a Brazilian au pair, though not a particularly hot one (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030606) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: White circlehead this experiment is sad noble and honest all at the same time (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030839) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: onyx cumskin cr it's really harrowing and inspiring at the same time |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic the facebook add is a 180 sign, bro. don't give up on this one yet. maybe also she's not really a good hiker and didn't want to embarrass herself in front of you. definitely continue pursuit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36030886) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Sent a follow-up message suggesting something in the next week; we'll see what unfolds. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031168) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:30 PM Author: Jade shitlib Yay! Gl! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031180) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Histrionic crimson dopamine site A new job as a nurse does sound overwhelming.
If she shows interest, how about combining the assertive, proactive, prototypical alpha described above with a compassionate Chad mindset, who can plan 100% of a date where she can relax and recover from her stressful week? Something more chill than a hike. Lunch at her favorite restaurant and some other chill activity where she doesn't have to stress about how she looks while she's hiking or whatever. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Aaaaaand she is free next weekend.
Now what do I do? |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen 80677713490789766857946245276634834635 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031244) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:40 PM Author: onyx cumskin 180 get lunch after church on sunday, you don't want to have the date when she's still absolutely exhausted from work |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Could work, though she actually does not GO to my church; though I met her at an event it held.
Since she is relatively new to D.C. I was thinking something that could involve showing her parts of the city and I can MFE on all the history and monuments and shit. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker Smithsonian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031288) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: onyx cumskin it might be campy but i think there's potential to picnic date as i mentioned above. pick a park that isn't too crowded but would let you do history buff schtick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031289) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen that sounds 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031292) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:46 PM Author: Fragrant zombie-like liquid oxygen he can
1. bring food he cooked himself and talk about his health/fitness goals 2. historybuff it up
at the same time. seems very 180. |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish LOL I'd have to learn to cook for real then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031310) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn just make sandwiches + fruits and veggies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031313) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: onyx cumskin cr, it's more about the effort and thought than what you make. she'll know she's a better cook than you from the start too, which is good to make clear. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031343) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: Histrionic crimson dopamine site This sounds good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031305) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Histrionic crimson dopamine site See my comment above. I don't know how athletic she is, but I think anyone who is on their feet all week running around a hospital may be more excited by something less physical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031296) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:43 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker good suggestion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031287) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 3:47 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn you mean BRUNCH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031306) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 4:23 PM Author: Jade shitlib YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36031478) |
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Date: May 11th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: Irradiated National USA! USA! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36032124) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 12:03 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish And we're on for something next Saturday. Gonna take her on a walk from Lincoln to the Capitol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36034648) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 12:27 AM Author: onyx cumskin 180 trillion, brother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36034736) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 12:34 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop 180 ^ 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36034761) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 12:40 AM Author: unhinged pearl azn playing to your strengths, I like it You will be like a BUFF as FUKK musclestud of the mind, posing and shooting ROPES of SCHOLARSHIP upon her |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 1:14 AM Author: Self-absorbed fuchsia turdskin field Sex means pooping in each other’s butts and passing the turd between you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36034935) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 5:00 AM Author: Grizzly bespoke indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035400) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 7:33 AM Author: chartreuse harsh prole den Walk the route that goes by the Korean War monument, which is more cool and less depressing than the Vietnam monument/wall with crying boomers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035488) |
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Date: May 13th, 2018 9:54 AM Author: Cordovan affirmative action *gazes admiringly upon confused-as-shit GIs stumbling through the Korean jungle* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36040764) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 7:46 AM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic 180. Great job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035498) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 7:49 AM Author: Slimy business firm preventive strike Make sure this walk ends in drinks. Just because she goes to church doesn't mean she doesn't wanna get banged out. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36035501) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker Bro have you been following C12's dating saga AT ALL?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36036524) |
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Date: May 13th, 2018 3:20 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36040344) |
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Date: May 12th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: aphrodisiac jet stead wagecucks 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36036004) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:47 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Update: Got canceled on.
"Charles,
I really wanted to go when we set this up but I am just not interested anymore. I think it would be unfair of me to not let you know now.
[Girl]"
Shit sucks, bros. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:48 PM Author: Alcoholic lime goal in life cuckoldry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059320) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:50 PM Author: Flatulent Provocative Lay Stain lmao at you subjecting yourself to this, egged on by your "friend" krampus, this is so weak dude and i'm sad to see you abase yourself so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059329) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:53 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn stfu the dude needs experiences like this if he's ever going to be successful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059357) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:46 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Through pain I will become stronger. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059603) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:23 AM Author: unhinged pearl azn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059755) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:23 AM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061107) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:28 AM Author: bat shit crazy depressive crackhouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061152) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: stubborn bistre macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061452) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:06 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker getting rejected like that is nbd if you got other chicks on the line already (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060653) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: White circlehead cr
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn jfc GUN HARD FOR THE CHURCH GIRL WITH 4 HOMESCHOOLED SISTERS |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:00 AM Author: amethyst odious chapel But see: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Virgin_Suicides_(film) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059395) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: rose domesticated university Agreed but that's a minefield. Five women jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060430) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:52 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig Is this the girl you went bowling with?
Either way this is good. It will toughen you up. |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:56 PM Author: unhinged pearl azn no, there have been 3 separate girl storylines recently: - bowling chick who offered him a ride home. He said he wasn't attracted to her so didn't pursue further - the chick in question, whom he met at one church event and invited on the hike, she declined, then they rescheduled for a walk, now she's rejecting him - MOST INTERESTING: chick he met on the church hike and then played board games with who sounds virtuous as fuckkkk |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:57 PM Author: Offensive spruce toaster codepig Oh I thought 1 and 2 were the same. C12 playing the field. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059387) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:01 AM Author: unhinged pearl azn cr he's doing fine. it is what it is. If he wanted to, he could probably makeout with bowling chick on date 2 (might've even pulled it off at end of date 1 if he had taken the ride home), but I guess he can't change whether she turns him on or not. also worth noting that 2/3 were IRL girls |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 9:07 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker I think Charles12 believes that making out, heavy petting and/or "necking" are all sinful activities (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060656) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:03 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Making out is fine, one must simply be cautious so that it does not ESCALATE to sinful behaviors. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061003) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:15 AM Author: multi-colored location kitty What's wrong with a handjob? Don't tell me you don't jerk off either? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061056) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish That is also a sin and one I have avoided for some time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061066) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: rose domesticated university The writers need to tighten this shit up. Too difficult to follow. Like the game of goddamn thrones (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060418) |
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Date: May 15th, 2018 11:57 PM Author: onyx cumskin which girl was this? that's rough man 120 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36059385) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 8:09 AM Author: Jade shitlib Sucks balls dude but the other chick is a better fit for you anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36060431) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:18 AM Author: maroon dog poop Sorry man that sucks. At least she was decent enough not to ghost or cancel at last minute.
Onto the next one! |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:19 AM Author: Jade shitlib (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061084) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: onyx cumskin the grinding gears of modern dating continue on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068355) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:21 AM Author: Adulterous contagious brunch international law enforcement agency Just brutal. Did she follow up with "and if you must know, it was your circlehead" |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:26 AM Author: exciting center Dear Charles, Was really excited to spend some time together discussing medieval literature, but I kept thinking about your receding hairline and it made my vagina dryer than the Sahara desert. Very truly Yrs etc etc |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:24 AM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant DESCRIBE every interaction between her accepting the invitation and sending this rejection
you either did something/posted something on FB or you let the vibe die |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:29 AM Author: aphrodisiac jet stead wagecucks It’s a weirdly sudden change especially for a church girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061162) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:35 AM Author: Adulterous contagious brunch international law enforcement agency At least the vampire chick would be more stable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061208) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic eh, somebody else caught her fancy. NBD. welcome to modern dating. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061235) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: aphrodisiac jet stead wagecucks That was my initial thought too and it’s the one that makes the most sense. Still seems sudden if she’s the busy churchy type. But I agree there is no better explanation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061331) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Between the acceptance and rejection my only FB stuff was commenting in a discussion thread about China demanding the Gap change a t-shirt they were selling. In general I don't post much on FB but it's possible she could have crawled through my history and disliked what she found, I guess.
I guess the vibe dying is possible. Here was the order of events:
-Meet in late April -A week later, notice church hike coming up, invite her to go, she says she will -One day before hike she cancels citing how tired she'd be on Sunday, but says she'd like to see me again soo. -I counteroffer by suggesting something later and she seems interested and says her weekend is free. -I suggest lunch and a walk on the Mall, she says "That sounds perfect =)" -I say that's great and send her my phone # for coordination purposes, obviously inviting her to reply with her own. -She doesn't respond at all and then cancels on me last night. The end. |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker bitches, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061311) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: ebony know-it-all orchestra pit legal warrant ok well easy come, easy go. better that she cancel now than go through an awkward date
be persistent, brother |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic happens all of the time.
part of the process.
i've bailed on girls, they've bailed on me.
never feels good in the moment, that's human nature, but eventually you learn it's just for the best and move on. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop I'll second this.
Getting over rejection is one of the biggest hurdles any man can overcome. I've said it in previous threads, but this is actually a good thing.
Charles, we've all been rejected and it sucks. For me, it actually sucks worse sometimes when the chick isn't even hot. With a really hot chick, you're almost expecting it. With an average chick it can cut right into your ego.
The important thing here is that you just keep getting on the horse. You will get rejected again, surely, but the sting is a bit less each time. Before long, you'll unknowingly be impervious to rejection's sting and you'll be the one rejecting.
Like someone else said, if you've got a lot of chicks in the hopper, the less you care. (CW says the same thing). Keep building the hopper.
some women will surprise you. You will be more attracted to some women after getting to know them than you had planned, and other women after talking to them, you'll realize you want nothing to do with them again.
At least this chick was decent and sent you a note, that's better than the 90% of women that will flat out ghost you.
All in all, a good learning experience. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36069095) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: exhilarant beta stock car Thread smells like naan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061314) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Cerebral Theater CXII needs better advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36061425) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish I am taking advice from all corners, but frankly much of it conflicts and a lot of it seems premised on my violating my core values. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36062301) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker yep, that's xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36062423) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Aggressive Mother lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36062532) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:34 AM Author: Cerebral Theater first of all, if you're actually looking for a catholic chick, why are you on OKC? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068386) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish The only actual date I've had so far was with a Catholic on OKC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068425) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop You need practice first, with chicks of all types, before you settle down with the love of your life, otherwise you 100% will blow it when you have the opportunity with your dream catholic girl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36069076) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:41 AM Author: Hyperventilating yellow fortuitous meteor fuck krampus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36067980) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:42 AM Author: exhilarant beta stock car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36067988) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: White circlehead as the, or at the very least a, Lothario of this racist lawchat bort I'd highly suggest C12 avoid creative dates, hikes, picnics and museum visits. Stick to drinks at a dive bar and thank me later. Women as much as they deny it do not like these alt-dates. Alt-dates are essentially for losers. There are no Chads or semi Chads engaging in this level of supplication. Sure you might have a couple beta good looking bros do it (CILO chads.in.looks.only) but real Chads don't get creative because they know ultimately women won't appreciate it, it sets the bar too high and who really wants to be do anything these things with a women they barely know that could possibly have a dud of a personality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068063) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: Henna hospital modern dating is sad, but you're also a sad human being (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068072) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:56 AM Author: White circlehead what are you basing my sadness on pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068079) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:59 AM Author: Henna hospital the fact that you have zero concept of what charles is trying to accomplish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068102) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:01 AM Author: White circlehead 99.9% of all women are the same my virgin friend. Even the most virtuous of women would amenable to having a date over wine or a smart cocktail. You're irreparably clueless (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068122) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:04 AM Author: Henna hospital you're not wrong but you still don't understand what charles is trying to accomplish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068139) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop You should really read some Corey Wayne. Your base assumptions about women are way wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36069116) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Henna hospital lmao @ this pua shit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36078097) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop LOL at PUA shit.
I'm assuming you're a woman that is completely devoid of self awareness. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: Henna hospital once again you do not understand what charles is trying to accomplish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36078119) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop Once again you do not understand women.
The principles are the same, no matter the woman. Charles is not a Pick Up Artist, we can all agree. I presume that he hasn't dated a lot in his life and doesn't have a lot of crucial experience with the opposite sex.
Corey Wayne could teach him a few easy things that will help him out a lot and not shoot himself in the foot. Particularly, staying aloof, not appearing overly-eager, not being jealous, etc., etc. Sure there are outliers among women, but generally (95%) are fundamentally the same, no matter their religion or principles. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:08 AM Author: Adulterous contagious brunch international law enforcement agency C12 is a volcel dork looking for a wife who isn't a slut. All of the advice you "chads" are giving itt is inappropriate for his needs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068163) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:10 AM Author: White circlehead even a dork's wife wants a kewl dork
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:36 AM Author: onyx cumskin i'm a shut in mevlin, but you know nothing about the kind of women c12 is trying to date, dude. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068409) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker A lot of those girls will still be fine with grabbing a drink at a bar somewhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068664) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: Curious address windowlicker I basically agree with this. Lots of Catholics are heavy drinkers anyway. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068614) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: crystalline irate forum main people Sadly, tcr.
I married exactly the kind of Cathlic girl C12 is looking for and our first date was at a bar. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:11 AM Author: Wild electric temple round eye tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068735) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Are specifically bars CR or could I also do basic coffee/lunch dates? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068762) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: Alcoholic lime goal in life cuckoldry someone answer this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36068770) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop Never do coffee/lunch dates according to CW.
Always pick dates that could potentially lead to sex. You don't need to get laid, but the potential needs to be there for the woman to take you seriously. This is what Chad does. Chad doesn't do lunch/coffee dates.
I've never had good success with lunch/coffee dates, you set yourself up for failure right away because the "date" seems more like an intellectual endeavor as opposed to a raw passionate pursuit. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic I have a lot of online dating experience -- not so much in the last few years, because I've been dealing with my own personal issues, but from '09 to '14. A lot of that was in the DC area.
When I first started I had just come out of a long-term rel'p, hadn't dated in many years, and had no idea what I was doing. Online dating was pretty new at the time, too. I would do dinner dates, etc.
Anyway, with a little practice I learned a lot.
I learned to never do dinner first dates, never do coffee first dates, never do any "activity" first dates. Simply drinks & see if you hit it off. If you don't, after a drink one of you says it was nice meeting you, thanks, but I have to go, and that's it.
Dinner is too awkward, forced, and expensive for someone you have never met before. Coffee -- way too formal for a first date, and in a situation where two people are nervous, the last thing you want is a face-to-face discussion under the stimulation of caffeine, which also makes you have to use the bathroom. Seems like a business meeting, not a date. "Activity" dates are way too try hard and awkward for a first date. You aren't really going to get to know a person when the focal point is some kind of activity, like a landmark or museum tour or a hike. And I cringed at the "picnic" suggestion above. That's way, way too try-hard and forced for a first date. The woman is going to want to escape and feel like she can't the entire time.
The reality is that the girl is going to be nervous, and the best thing to do is loosen her inhibitions in a relaxed setting where she feels free to bail at any time if she wants. A date shouldn't feel like work -- it's something she is doing on her free time away from work. Buy her a drink, see if there's a connection, and be prepared to move on to the next one if she isn't. More than anything, you *cannot* give the vibe that you are super interested in her before you've even met her, and that's what activity dates and meal dates signal. Instant turn off. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop Very well said and similar to my own experiences.
Sometimes I'll do a dinner date because I really just want to eat at a certain restaurant and the money spent on the chick there doesn't bother me. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079494) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Wild electric temple round eye this is 100% correct first date advice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36078053) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Thanks for the advice. Noted.
Is it more acceptable to jump to a non-drinks date if I met the person IRL already? Also do the rules change at all if chick doesn't drink? |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 5:02 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop I would say yes to both, you can do a dinner/alt date for both those situations. The drinks only first date is just a general guideline. Obviously wouldn't work for a non-drinker. If you've already met the person, it probably isn't the same level of stress as a first time "How ya doin?" hook-up type thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079519) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker depends how long you were around them the first time you met. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079571) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 5:15 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic depends on how much interaction you had with the person IRL. usually it won't have been much. at least not in a 1 on 1, feeling-each-other-out to see if there's a potential romantic relationship type of situation. so i'd say very rarely is it the right move to jump to non-drinks.
if the chick doesn't drink, yes, of course, the rules change. in fact, if you are adamant about avoiding drinking, you may want to target some women who don't drink. i will warn you, though, that it will probably make the first date tougher, as nerves and inhibitions are high. i can't say i have much experience with a NODRINK first date, though. i've only had a couple, like coffee, and they never worked. maybe you could try trivia night, though that probably lasts too long. i'd still steer clear of a physical activity first date or tour-type thing. maybe get some ice cream, and then if it seems like it's going well you can see if she wants to walk to a monument or something. i don't know; this isn't my area of dating expertise; maybe others can chime in on what best to do with non-drinkers on a first date. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 5:34 PM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079739) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079486) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: 180 public bath gaming laptop Jesus, I should have read this before I posted.
This is 100% what I was trying to convey to C12, but worded much better. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: Pearly Submissive House Psychic Here you go, Chuck. David Cross explaining all the first date ideas you need... https://youtu.be/TRcOm5VZdJQ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36079686) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 8:44 PM Author: crystalline irate forum main people Everytime I see this thread title I read it as "CharlesXII dating manager giving up, taking q's (Krampus)" and it makes me LOL (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36081027) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 8:53 PM Author: Bull Headed Death Wish Soon, friend. Soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36081069) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Curious address windowlicker has charlesXII even tried to pee in any of these girls' butts at all? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3959999&forum_id=2#36090826) |