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Immigration should be more like recruitment
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:51 PM Author: laughsome hall The biggest issue with immigration is we primarily get immigrants from one of two categories: 1) low-skilled non-English speakers who are only fit for jobs that will largely be automated soon. 2) Cheap IT workers who replace Americans and allow companies to underpay workers
We should be recruiting the best talent in the world. The largest group of immigrants should creative, highly-motivated 130+ IQ-types. These are the type of people that start companies that employ a ton of people or make scientific/technical contributions that push humanity forward.There are a number of ways we could locate these guys (e.g. online screening test or some sort of MOOC course where we identify top performers) and they would be dying to move to the U.S.
Really is crazy there isn't a bigger push for this. One of the best things that ever happened to the U.S. was the influx of European geniuses (Von Neumann, Von Braun) post WW2. |
Date: April 26th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: jet sexy stage sneaky criminal Libs call this racist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926130) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: laughsome hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926151) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:43 PM Author: irate volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927283) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: Copper Big Tank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927551) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate didn't you literally hire an illegal nanny for slave wages? lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926131) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: jet sexy stage sneaky criminal Jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926138) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Autistic Foreskin lmao if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926139) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: laughsome hall No, she is legal. I didn't ask a whole lot of questions about her status, but I found out later. We are paying her $14 tax-free. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926149) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate should very low skilled workers like her be allowed to continue to immigrate here? it's not like you couldn't pay some high schooler to babysit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926165) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: laughsome hall Not now, but she came here as a one year old. We should probably have guest worker permits. Most high-schoolers are actually in high school during work hours, so I am guessing your solution wouldn't work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927280) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:46 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate fair point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927309) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:33 AM Author: costumed twinkling queen of the night space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35929366) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:53 PM Author: diverse hyperventilating theater stage nowag more like why the fuck do we allow H1-B visas when they only benefit corporations and not 'innovators' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926134) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:54 PM Author: Charcoal French Chef i like it. but what if we made your proposal even simpler and just....only let in white people...? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926153) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: laughsome hall Can't be too obvious about it. I would be in strong favor of recruiting heavily from engineering schools in Germany, France, South Africa etc. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926161) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 3:56 PM Author: Racy clown skinny woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35926164) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:47 PM Author: laughsome hall (Guy who wants to concede the future to the Chinese and live in a society with unsustainable debt and low economic growth). We don't need more 85 IQ Mayans and other low-skilled code monkeys, but we definitely need the smartest young people in the world who are HIGHLY motivated to succeed. These are the people who found companies and make research breakthroughs. We do not have a monopoly on high-IQ people and poor immigrants are much more motivated than wealthy whites.
Immigrants and their children have founded 60 percent of the most highly valued tech companies in the U.S. Right now those companies — which include Alphabet, Amazon, Apple and Facebook — have a combined market value of $3.8 trillion. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: jet sexy stage sneaky criminal “Guy who wants to concede the future to the Chinese and live in a society with unsustainable debt and low economic growth”
Eh sounds fine tbh |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:32 PM Author: deep soul-stirring resort if you want more immigration, your plan isn't the way to go (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35928011) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:44 PM Author: Exhilarant halford roommate Cr. We should be bending over backwards to bring in the best of the best. But everyone else can get fucked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927291) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:48 PM Author: laughsome hall (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927322) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:44 PM Author: silver disturbing main people legal warrant our immigration policy should be 25% 130+ IQmos/75% thin, attractive women ages 18-26, and optionally up to 5% refugees taken from either category as needed so we can pretend we're making a difference. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927294) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:49 PM Author: laughsome hall I would co-sign this policy. As long as the refugees aren't muhammads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927331) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:44 PM Author: Contagious house sweet tailpipe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927295) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:45 PM Author: spruce kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927298) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:46 PM Author: white point filthpig we have to be careful not to import a foreign/hostile overclass. that kind of thing is a repeated factor in social collapses throughout history. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927312) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:48 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate we've been importing a foreign/hostile underclass up until now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927323) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:50 PM Author: white point filthpig yes, and it's truly dumb. but the whole "merit-based immigration" thing has its own problems. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927342) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:50 PM Author: laughsome hall These people will be GRATEFUL for the U.S. Imagine you grow up poor as fuck in Estonia and the U.S. lets you immigrate and make a fortune. These are the most patriotic people in my experience. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927343) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate how would this work? are they already successful? do they have a high IQ? IQ isn't exactly a predictor of success outside of the lower half, and even then it's not final unless they're actually retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927362) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: laughsome hall I can imagine a bunch of ways to do this. We could let anyone in who is accepted to the world's most elite non-US technical universities, like Ecole Polytechnique, ETH Zurich and the IIT schools. Or the subset of these kids at these universities who are studying Physics/Math/CS/EE. Or we could we could just use a combo of IQ, ESL and personality tests. You could identify the smartest kids with the best technical skills in the world and then make sure they are working on our most pressing research needs (quantum electronics, AI, molecular engineering). Are you seriously going to argue that these people aren't more likely to add value to our society than people selected at random, which is basically what we do now? Or the average white American kid? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927414) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:05 PM Author: white point filthpig not many of those people actually want to immigrate to the US, though. top of the class at a french ecole is highly-prestigious in france/europe already; no need to move to the US to "maek it." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927446) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:11 PM Author: laughsome hall It would be if there were special programs for these types of people where they could get access to VC, elite grad programs and other options. Europe is becoming increasingly unappealing due to high taxes, refugee crises, low economic growth etc. If they thought they had a better chance to make it in the U.S. they would be flocking here. Many probably want to move here and live in NYC or wherever, but can't. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927484) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: white point filthpig euro immigration to the US has been low since euro nations began to move beyond the immediate effects of WWII in the mid-50's. there is no grand pool of europeans (especially western europeans) who want to move to the US but decide against it due to bureaucratic issues. you're talking about a few hundred individuals in any given year.
our current immigration system is a firehose that admits over a million. especially now that a lot of non-americans from western nations are legitimately terrified of being killed in a mass-shooting if they visit the US. it's kind of a silly fear, but it shows you were things are at right now. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:21 PM Author: laughsome hall Current immigration is indeed a disaster. It is impossible to say how many Western Europeans would want to move here if they were actively recruited and given the opportunity. How many CS geniuses would kill to move to Silicon Valley? You also have to factor in the projected future of Europe - it is bleak. Moving to the U.S. will only become more desirable over time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927534) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: white point filthpig LOL. most trends in the US are more "bleak" than those in europe:
https://i.imgur.com/tPDHyMf.png
but to answer your question - not many. to begin with, there aren't that many "CS geniuses" in total. and those who want to relocate to silicon valley already do so. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:36 PM Author: deep soul-stirring resort cr TC thinks high IQ Euros want to come to US en masse but can't, and that the high IQmos from shitty countries aren't already content rentseeking in/taking advantage of their country of origin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35928035) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: Copper Big Tank "IQ isn't exactly a predictor of success outside of the lower half"
Link? |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:53 PM Author: white point filthpig how'd that work out with high-IQ indians, whose kids are often some of the most extreme lib SJWs around? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927371) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: free-loading jade half-breed TC is dumb as fuck, just looking for some bitchy minority to tell him what to do like his wife does, dude is a born slave bitchmade faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927401) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927407) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: laughsome hall Who gives a shit about their politics? They are still a small minority in the grand scheme of things. Oh no, the 160 IQ guy researching cures to cancer is posting shitlib stuff on Facebook. Social liberalism is correlated with IQ. Should we just let dumbs in to avoid that risk? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927424) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: bateful mewling temple degenerate cr this isn't that much of a problem if the immigration restrictions are stringent enough to filter down the candidates (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927432) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:06 PM Author: white point filthpig "oh, don't worry about all those communist/anarchist russian jews we're letting in through ellis island; i'm sure it'll be no big deal, it's not like there are THAT many of them..."
also, IQ is NEGATIVELY correlated with STEM employment beyond 133 or so. people outside of that range are more likely to do their own things or withdraw from traditional society. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:09 PM Author: passionate umber round eye cr. we are doomed. i give up. just lol @ these idiots. same credulous retards who bought Ted Kennedy's line of shit in 1965 about the Immigration Act not 'altering the ethnic balance of the US'. you can't help people this dumb. |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: talented kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927499) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: laughsome hall It ended up being a good thing if for no other reason that it enabled us to get the bomb first.
https://www.atomicheritage.org/article/scientist-refugees-and-manhattan-project |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:29 PM Author: free-loading jade half-breed Yeah that worked out GREAT, you really are as dumb as people say no wonder your wife tugs you around on the leash this way and that like a purse dog (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927981) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: talented kitchen (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35927441) |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 7:08 PM Author: laughsome hall Was just listening to a podcast where they were interviewing this guy who got a PhD from Stanford and is a multi-millionaire VC. Just totally ungrateful. He wants to move to Singapore and obviously hates most of America. Infuriating.
https://genius.com/Balaji-srinivasan-silicon-valleys-ultimate-exit-annotated |
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Date: April 26th, 2018 8:39 PM Author: deep soul-stirring resort better to get 100 IQ ride or die types tbh, telling you dude (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35928058) |
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Date: April 27th, 2018 12:35 AM Author: adulterous chapel juggernaut swag for everyone, hot blondes in the hospitality suites (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3960704&forum_id=2#35929373) |