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Yo Muscadine Wine--how'd your trial go?

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Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
Yea man, bench trial, waiting for the ruling. It was a good...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
So you can just sandbag the shit out of people in state cour...
Burgundy Rambunctious Gas Station Blood Rage
  05/03/18
Not usually. If defense counsel had been sharper I bet they...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
No. If you get a scheduling order, and then file motions to...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
Does your court require the exchange of an Exhibit List, or ...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
Absent an order, we have no obligations prior to trial, it's...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
Lol yeah. It's great when it comes together like that.
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
Yea, it may not make a difference, the facts are what count,...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
So if you hold back evidence you had an obligation to disclo...
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
Without a scheduling order to the contrary, we have a suprem...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
So what is the downside to just not producing things you hav...
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
You have to know how much you can get away with. I turned o...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
"and the stuff that came in last minute were not in my ...
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
It is what it is
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
explain this. Maybe I've been out of lit for too long, but a...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
Yes. Just prior to the discovery deadline, you file a motio...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
GL!
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
"they got in maybe 1/3 of the evidence that the brought...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
A large chunk of stuff they thought they could get in throug...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
First paragraph - wow, they fucked up bigly! Second para...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
Yes, but they were Emails directed to their client. I have ...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
I start to get nervous when the judge makes several favorabl...
Coiffed Keepsake Machete Mental Disorder
  05/03/18
You know what, you're dead fucking right, and I am concerned...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
I can also be highly neurotic with this shit and go to great...
Coiffed Keepsake Machete Mental Disorder
  05/03/18
No, you're right, and i have seen this too. You're dead on.
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
Were you getting the favorable rulings Before your damages e...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
I was getting favorable rulings from the get-go, but it was ...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/04/18
Gotcha. Exasperating.
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/04/18
Yes, it was, and these kinds of things don't win a trial, bu...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/04/18
fuck that email hearsay stuff makes me nervous. I need to bo...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
They tried all of that. The Judge was not going to allow in...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
They could have just brought these people to trial, or taken...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
just so I have this straight, you mean the "people"...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
Email To: shithead client From: bitch who has bad info...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
They were trying to get this in through their shithead clien...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
is this common in state court? I can't believe that with th...
Spruce Wild Stead Gunner
  05/03/18
I was floored. EDIT: these cases usually settle, and pe...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
That makes sense, and it's surprising they thought they coul...
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
ok thanks, that makes sense. I still need to bone up on this...
medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse
  05/03/18
business records exception possibly but theyd still have to ...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
By the way, Spaceporn, thanks for asking about my case. You...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
More importantly, how was the fishing? What kinda boat you ...
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
I spent the day on Friday on a Blackjack 25 (a friend's boat...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
180
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
Nice. Center console?
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
Oh yes. Center console with a 250 on Thursday, my center co...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/03/18
You mostly troll or cast in the salt? Downriggers?
drunken state water buffalo
  05/03/18
On Friday in the ocean we spent most of the day bottom fishi...
Obsidian sex offender
  05/04/18
...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  05/03/18
Did you ever get a decision in this case?
bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker
  07/17/18
We did proposed orders last week. 28 pages of findings of f...
Obsidian sex offender
  07/17/18
delay means judge wants you both to settle case NAO
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  07/17/18
I know, but the other side is offering nothing. I'm better ...
Obsidian sex offender
  07/17/18
Call up the other side and tell them what u and I just discu...
Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness
  07/20/18
Good luck brother. Looks like the client knows you gave it a...
bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker
  07/17/18
I did. I will be crushed to see a bad ruling on this one
Obsidian sex offender
  07/17/18
Ever get a decision in this case? Kind of bizarre to see th...
bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker
  12/04/18
...
bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker
  12/05/18
The Court ruled against me, kind of. The other party got th...
Obsidian sex offender
  12/05/18
Yeah, you were pretty doom and gloom about this case, so it ...
bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker
  12/05/18


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Date: May 3rd, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974666)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:03 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Yea man, bench trial, waiting for the ruling. It was a good trial for me, the other side was from out of town (and didn't know our Judge [deleted], and they were not experienced trial attorneys and got lit up on evidence objections. EDIT: they got in maybe 1/3 of the evidence that the brought. It was a bloodbath.

It was a partnership dissolution case, total assets at about 3.5 million, total debt about 1.5 M. So, real money at stake.

[deleted]

So, great trial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974715)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:08 PM
Author: Burgundy Rambunctious Gas Station Blood Rage

So you can just sandbag the shit out of people in state court?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974763)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:10 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Not usually. If defense counsel had been sharper I bet they could have kept undisclosed stuff out, scheduling order or no scheduling order. Good job Muscadine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974778)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:11 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

No. If you get a scheduling order, and then file motions to compel to solidify your scheduling order, you cannot get sandbagged.

If you don't know what to do, you get yourself cut. State Court is like the movie Menace 2 Society. Picture O'Dog, showing his murder tape, laughing, fucking bitches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974784)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:15 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Does your court require the exchange of an Exhibit List, or os that only w the scheduling order?

I had a bench trial where we had no scheduling order and I tried to put stuff in and defense counsel who was a doddering old bro objected that I didn't produce it in discovery and I said I don't have to because you never properly asked for it and lol the judge said, okay--both of you--take ten minutes and show each other what you've got--and took a recess.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974824)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Absent an order, we have no obligations prior to trial, it's on the attorneys to be prepared.

Yea, per your story, at bench trial, that's about the way it goes. Really, if you're going to try a case without a real discovery scheduling order, you had better prepare for a shitshow (or you had better be prepared to spring some shit).

In this trial, I actually did a motion in limine trying to keep out an expert report because it was turned over late. I knew I'd lose that motion, but I wanted to get the other side on record saying that this late disclosure was OK, no scheduling order, etc., and of course they fell right into that trap. When the other side argued about my non-disclosure, the Judge actually brought up that "this is different than what you said about your expert report." I can't execute that move much better than I did in this trial.

I could have made a motion to close discovery at the beginning of trial, and I was very concerned that they might, but I bet correctly that they didn't know what to do/ didn't guess at what was coming. This shit is incredibly fun to do.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974884)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Lol yeah. It's great when it comes together like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974903)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Yea, it may not make a difference, the facts are what count, but I'm trying to give my guy every opportunity to win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974967)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:23 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

So if you hold back evidence you had an obligation to disclose, you can introduce it if they didn't move to compel? How are they supposed to know you are holding it back?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974904)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Without a scheduling order to the contrary, we have a supreme court decision that says, if in discovery you reserve the right to supplement during trial, and no objection is made, it is not reversible error to allow the evidence in.

There are procedures they could have done to protect themselves, but they either chose not to do them or didn't know what to do. Either way, this is what I get paid for.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974981)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

So what is the downside to just not producing things you have, that are responsive, that you want to hold back?

Is it at least in the court's discretion to exclude the evidence? Do judges require you to make some showing that you recently acquired the evidence?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975004)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

You have to know how much you can get away with. I turned over 6k documents, and the stuff that came in last minute were not in my possession until just before trial.

Had I showed up with 13 binders full of documents at trial, they surely would have been excluded.

This is an art, not a science.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975017)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

"and the stuff that came in last minute were not in my possession until just before trial."

Uh huh. Sure thing buddy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975120)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

It is what it is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975122)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

explain this. Maybe I've been out of lit for too long, but aren't scheduling orders just an order stating when discovery is supposed to be completed, deposition deadlines, pre trial conferences, and setting trial?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974920)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Yes. Just prior to the discovery deadline, you file a motion to compel on something (there's always something) and ask in that Order that they have until ____ to produce everything they intend to produce at trial.

Then, motion in limine to close discovery.

Even that is not air tight, but would certainly protect against nonsense like what happened at my trial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974959)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:09 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

GL!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974768)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

"they got in maybe 1/3 of the evidence that the brought. "

How the fuck does this happen? Was it not stuff disclosed in discovery? That would be devastating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974898)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

A large chunk of stuff they thought they could get in through business records, but they didn't bring the records custodian to verify. DING!

Also, they tried to get a lot of EMails in and got Hearsay-dinged. They tried everything, including trying to read the Emails and ask their client about them, but nothing worked. Tried that "not to prove the truth of the matter asserted bullshit," Judge just smiled and shook his head "no."

I did a motion in limine to limit testimony on one subject, and that was granted, so a large chunk of documents they intended to introduce became irrelevant. I made about ten 401 objections and they all were sustained.

EDIT: also, I didn't think that they were prepared for the evidence fight that found themselves in. These other attorneys seemed to do most of their work in arbitration, and they tried this case like an arbitration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974939)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

First paragraph - wow, they fucked up bigly!

Second paragraph - were these emails between people that were not testifying that they were trying to testify about?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35974995)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Yes, but they were Emails directed to their client. I have no idea why they thought they could get these in, and they really got cranky when all of these got bumped.

There is no substitution in trial to simply have a lot of experience in trial. These guys had their Rule Book, they were making these strange evidence arguments, and they got shredded.

There were two attorneys on the other side, both about 10-15 years my senior, but they were not experienced state court trial attorneys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975002)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Coiffed Keepsake Machete Mental Disorder

I start to get nervous when the judge makes several favorable rulings in my favor but not the other side. Judges in my neck of the woods have a habit of doing this for the side they have already decided to rule against to limit potential bases for appeal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975076)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

You know what, you're dead fucking right, and I am concerned about that. However, most of the rulings were black letter law stuff.

But yes, I am concerned about that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975092)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Coiffed Keepsake Machete Mental Disorder

I can also be highly neurotic with this shit and go to great lengths to keep my expectations in check, even if the situation appears to be favorable to me and my client.

Regardless, I always tell my clients this to keep them grounded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975175)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:04 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

No, you're right, and i have seen this too. You're dead on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975179)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Were you getting the favorable rulings Before your damages expert testified or after?

Ive had damages experts fuck shit up on those kind of cases, and I'm always neurotic about it because its easy for an expert to get kicked under foundational rules associated w business valuation types of issues. Good job on getting the testimony in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975547)



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Date: May 4th, 2018 10:06 AM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

I was getting favorable rulings from the get-go, but it was more that the opposing side was attempting to have admitted a bunch of garbage and they didn't seem to understand basic hearsay rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35980079)



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Date: May 4th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Gotcha. Exasperating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35980192)



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Date: May 4th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Yes, it was, and these kinds of things don't win a trial, but my client loved it and was very happy to see me cut these guys down. At the end of the day, it's all about having a happy client.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35980212)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:54 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

fuck that email hearsay stuff makes me nervous. I need to bone up on this stuff.

Couldn't they argue that the emails were business records or some kind of party admission?

Or that their client was the recipient of the email and had knowledge so they could testify about it?

(sorry if my evidence knowledge is lacking, I haven't been to a trial in a long time)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975107)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

They tried all of that. The Judge was not going to allow in hearsay testimony.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975119)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

They could have just brought these people to trial, or taken their deposition.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975170)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

just so I have this straight, you mean the "people" who were the recipients of those emails, right?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975212)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:10 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Email

To: shithead client

From: bitch who has bad information

Subject: shit my client did

Text: HEARSAY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975216)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

They were trying to get this in through their shithead client.

Had the bitch bitch who had information showed up, or had a deposition taken, it comes in. Outside of that, I don't know how you get that hearsay in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975219)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Spruce Wild Stead Gunner

is this common in state court? I can't believe that with the amount in controversy these lawyers didn't know wtf they were doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975249)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:23 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

I was floored.

EDIT: these cases usually settle, and people who have specialized in things like business law tend to have very little trial experience. These guys came from a white shoe fancy ass firm and knew the law, had very good law-itude and great demeanor, client control, etc., and certainly looked the part. However, these cases almost never go to trial, so they have very little experience actually in trial.

I suspected that they were out of their element when they couldn't accurately predict the amount of time they needed for trial.

I cut my teeth in shitlaw family court/ DSS, handled hundreds of civil trials, so there is nowhere that I"m more comfortable than at a bench trial. I'm like a fucking ninja turtle coming out of the gutter with fucking nunchucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975318)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

That makes sense, and it's surprising they thought they could get X into evidence by having their client testify "somebody told me X."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975365)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:52 PM
Author: medicated famous landscape painting bawdyhouse

ok thanks, that makes sense. I still need to bone up on this shit, I use emails all the time in the few benchtrials that I do (but I always use emails where the person testifying was a sender or recipient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975527)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

business records exception possibly but theyd still have to do it correctly and have the right person present because I assume you weren't gonna stipulate to shit on day of trial. it sounds like they were just SPS on the evidence rules.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975555)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

By the way, Spaceporn, thanks for asking about my case. You're a solid dude.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975493)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:54 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

More importantly, how was the fishing? What kinda boat you got?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975541)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

I spent the day on Friday on a Blackjack 25 (a friend's boat) and I went about 20 miles out, caught all sorts of stuff.

On Saturday, I went on my boat, a Pioneer 18.

Fishing was great.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975560)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975582)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 5:03 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

Nice. Center console?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975604)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 5:04 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

Oh yes. Center console with a 250 on Thursday, my center console has a 115

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975613)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 5:05 PM
Author: drunken state water buffalo

You mostly troll or cast in the salt? Downriggers?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975622)



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Date: May 4th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

On Friday in the ocean we spent most of the day bottom fishing on nearshore reefs. There is a really cool reef about 10 miles out that's made up of old army tanks, we caught some great black sea bass (which are really just smaller groupers). We also caught some bluefish, a weakfish, a small hammerhead (bonnethead), as well as some bonita that we tracked through birds. My buddy from college brought up his 25, and it was outfitted with all sorts of great stuff - he had a GPS trolling motor, which was absolutely 180 - we were in 75 feet of water, so anchoring over the reef was a no-go, so he just activated the trolling motor and set it to keep is on the exact GPS coordinates (right over the reef) - it was like something out of Skynet, the boat stuck on that one spot better than if it were anchored. The boat also had a great depth finder with side scanning capabilities and multiple scan types, making it very easy to find the reefs. It was an amazing boat. This is basically the exact boat: http://www.boats.com/power-boats/2017-blackjack-256-6512321/?refSource=standard%20listing#.WuxmFIgvzIU

On Saturday I stayed in the sound & creeks, we caught bluefish and some redfish. Saturday was a fishing tournament that my firm sponsored and we had 5 boats full of guys participating, and there was a lot of fish caught. One guy caught a great sheepshead and there were a few good looking flounder caught. I love my boat, and I had 3 guys on it, but is not in the same class as the Blackjack. I don't take it out past the 10 mile mark, and it has good GPS and fish/depth finders, but it is a 2012 and the tech is just behind. This is basically my boat: https://www.thehulltruth.com/boat-commercial-classifieds-marine-services/482213-2012-pioneer-180-sportfish.html

EDIT: great way to decompress after a hard fought trial

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35980032)



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Date: May 3rd, 2018 4:56 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#35975556)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker

Did you ever get a decision in this case?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448796)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

We did proposed orders last week. 28 pages of findings of facts.

Thanks for asking, but I don't have a ruling yet. I feel bad because a bad ruling is going to pretty much wipe out my client.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448803)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

delay means judge wants you both to settle case NAO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448829)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

I know, but the other side is offering nothing. I'm better off getting crushed with a judgment and trying to get relief on appeal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448844)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:31 PM
Author: Cerebral coral forum twinkling uncleanness

Call up the other side and tell them what u and I just discussed. Judge wants u both to settle.

You calling them and candidly telling them this right now will spook them, give them a little push to put some money up.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36468878)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker

Good luck brother. Looks like the client knows you gave it all you had.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448843)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

I did. I will be crushed to see a bad ruling on this one

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#36448891)



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Date: December 4th, 2018 4:57 PM
Author: bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker

Ever get a decision in this case? Kind of bizarre to see the top convo be an all pumo affair...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#37350087)



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Date: December 5th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#37355570)



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Date: December 5th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Obsidian sex offender

The Court ruled against me, kind of. The other party got the business (and absurd debt) but my client's equity in the company was preserved. It's not what my client wanted, but the offer prior to trial was for my client to give up the business and pay 100k, so I suppose it's OK.

I got the ruling last month.

I was upset because my client wanted the business, but really, after some time to reflect, the decision is fine. Provided that the other party completes all of the refinancing required, we are not going to appeal. I have a R59 motion in just to preserve issues, but I have not filed a motion to stay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#37355605)



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Date: December 5th, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: bateful step-uncle's house windowlicker

Yeah, you were pretty doom and gloom about this case, so it doesn’t seem all that bad considering the pretrial offer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3967308&forum_id=2#37355649)