HiffPo: Affirmative Action benefits everyone, including Asian Americans (link)
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:36 PM Author: Glittery coiffed famous landscape painting
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/opinion-young-asian-american-affirmative-action_us_5af5e145e4b0e57cd9f951c4
Most opponents of affirmative action from Asian American communities believe Asian Americans who have higher standardized test scores are missing out on the opportunity to go to elite schools like Harvard. These opponents often reference a nearly 10-year-old study that found Asian Americans had to score higher than other students on SAT exams to be on equal footing in private university admissions — a difference sometimes called the “Asian tax” or “Asian penalty.” However, even a co-author of this 2009 study has stated explicitly that his research does not establish anti-Asian bias, noting that the formulas did not take into account “softer variables” such as recommendations, essays and extracurricular activities.
Moreover, how well you perform on a standardized test is not an indicator of collegiate success. Although the cause for test score gaps deserves further exploration, affirmative action is not a cause for the gap.
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The removal of affirmative action overwhelmingly would benefit white people, not Asian Americans.
A 2016 study found that “eliminating African American and Latino applicants from the Harvard admissions pool only increases the admissions chances of Asian American students by one percent, making it quite unlikely that rejected Asian American applicants would be admitted even under a system that does not consider race.” The study further finds that the discrepancies are due to a “white admissions advantage,” because the underrepresented minorities that stand to benefit from affirmative action make up such a small portion of the applicant pool. Stated differently, the removal of affirmative action overwhelmingly would benefit white people, not Asian Americans.
Colleges and universities hold spots for legacy students, special admissions (for example, for publicly known figures or wealthy donors) or college athletes before they even begin to consider general admission and a holistic approach to a diverse student body. In many cases, these programs can account for over 25 percent of college admissions. The remaining prospective white and Asian American students and other students of color are left fighting for those increasingly scarce remaining incoming freshman spots.
Rather than seek ways to dismantle diversity on campus, we need to improve the diversity of Asian American representation to include underrepresented ethnic groups of Southeast Asians, Native Hawaiians and Pacific Islanders. Asian Americans should not allow our community to be used as a pawn in efforts to dismantle the hallmark achievements of the civil rights movement. This is a classic divide-and-conquer strategy with echoes of colonial paternalism.
Asian Americans need to champion Asian Americans and support all communities of color in fighting any attempts to dismantle affirmative action programs. Let’s find ways to continue celebrating the benefits of affirmative action instead of using wedge politics and trying to pit one community against another.
John C. Yang is the president and executive director of Asian Americans Advancing Justice ― AAJC.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36058991) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Smoky trust fund
"Well, yeah, but just because your chance of acceptance would have been higher, that doesn't necessarily mean you would have been admitted."
Surely he'll be willing to import that logic to other areas of racial disparity.
"Even though we allege that applicants with black names are interviewed less often, we acknowledge that that doesn't mean they would have gotten the job. We have no damages and will be voluntarily dismissing our compliant."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36061637) |
Date: May 15th, 2018 10:40 PM Author: Brindle fluffy hospital ape
Moreover, how well you perform on a standardized test is not an indicator of collegiate success. [citation needed]
Although the cause for test score gaps deserves further exploration, affirmative action is not a cause for the gap. [citation needed]
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059019) |
Date: May 15th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: Brindle fluffy hospital ape
John is an experienced attorney with over two decades of policy, litigation, and corporate expertise. He served in the Obama Administration as Senior Advisor for Trade and Strategic Initiatives at the U.S. Department of Commerce, where he was the principal advisor to Secretary Penny Pritzker on issues related to Asia and worked with the White House and other U.S. agencies on strategic and economics issues concerning the region. Previously, John was a partner with a major Washington, D.C. law firm, and also worked in Shanghai, China for several years as the legal director for the Asia-Pacific operations of a U.S. Fortune 200 company.
John graduated with honors from George Washington University Law School, where he served on the George Washington Law Review and the Moot Court Board. Chambers USA recognized John as one of “America’s Leading Business Lawyers” and as a Washington, D.C. “Super Lawyer” by Law & Politics.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059029) |
Date: May 15th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Excitant resort
"Asian Americans need to champion Asian Americans and support all communities of color in fighting any attempts to dismantle affirmative action programs."
lol @ this simpering faggot uncle chan selling out his own people in the name of "social justice." how does this happen? how do parents raise a kid who inherits a 5,000-year-old civilization like that of the chinese, and then he grows up and does THIS with it?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059036) |
Date: May 15th, 2018 10:51 PM Author: Brindle fluffy hospital ape
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Proud to partner with @ArturoNALEO of @NALEO on this op-ed addressing why the census citizenship question is unwise and unnecessary. We must fight against attempts to make minority communities invisible.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059085)
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Date: May 15th, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Brindle fluffy hospital ape
John C. Yang
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Thought-provoking morning plenary on challenging white supremacy at @JusticeConf. Thanks to @Aarti_Kohli @vanitaguptaCR @manaro_77 and Cathy Dang. #JusticeConf18 #AdvancingJustice
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059094) |
Date: May 15th, 2018 11:04 PM Author: Sexy jade house
"A 2016 study found that “eliminating African American and Latino applicants from the Harvard admissions pool only increases the admissions chances of Asian American students by one percent"
i suspect that the study actually said one percentage POINT, not one percent, which is a massive increase in chances at getting in.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059196) |
Date: May 16th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: cyan trip toilet seat
"Affirmative action programs in higher education have been upheld by the Supreme Court as recently as 2016. The understanding is that diversity is a compelling interest in higher education, and programs that ensure a diverse student body are important because it allows for cross-racial understanding, erases stereotypes and prepares students for an increasingly diverse workforce and society. These goals benefit everyone, including Asian Americans."
lol what adult reads this paragraph and is nodding their head in approval saying, "yeah, yeah, we need more cross-racial understanding and an increasingly diverse workforce!"
seriously how stupid would you have to be to genuinely buy into this shit. this whole essay reminds me of something that would be published as alt-right satire
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36059487) |
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Date: May 16th, 2018 12:09 PM Author: Smoky trust fund
"erases stereotypes"
I'd like to see empirical data.
I would think it's likely that some stereotypes are reinforced by diversity. For example, the white farm kid from a small town in South Dakota probably didn't harbor certain stereotypes about stinky food and unwashed body odor before leaving for college in the big city.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36061886) |
Date: May 16th, 2018 10:52 AM Author: Brindle fluffy hospital ape
Not even Asian, and I'm still so ENRAGED at this complete faggot
The only saving grace is, this guy was undoubtedly SET for a top job under Hillary and got PWNED.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36061333) |
Date: May 16th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: twisted university
"stated differently, the removal of affirmative action overwhelmingly would benefit white people..."
Any white person with children who supports affirmative action needs to be beaten with a pillowcase full of doorknobs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36061393) |
Date: May 16th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Smoky trust fund
"how well you perform on a standardized test is not an indicator of collegiate success."
Yes, it is. This had been studied ad nauseum.
Yes, you can find weird exceptions (e.g., the SAT math doesn't predict freshman math grades at LAC XYZ), but that's hardly the same as saying the overall correlation is 0.0.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3977971&forum_id=2#36061523) |
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