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So biglaw guarantees a 30 year old $350,000 year and it's bad?
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:45 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067472) |
Date: May 17th, 2018 7:46 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park Flexible work. Lots of firms let you do whatever from home as long as it gets done. Can roll in at a 11, out at 4 on slow days. Senior assocs can delegate a ton of the grunt work. Insanely high salary. Good job flexibility - there's firms lining up to hire you even if you get canned. Great benefits. Transactional is chill and often not too contentious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067474) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:47 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park Compare this to in-house - sitting in an open plan office, making half as much, some MD riding you every second of your 9-7 day, still have a blackberry, still working on deals. JFC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067475) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:33 AM Author: galvanic property There is shitty in-house and there is cushy in-house. Not sure if the same can be said for Biglaw. If you're there 9-7 it's prbly because you spent 3 hours shooting the shit with others. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067932) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:40 AM Author: Ruby clown In either case if you're not (1) GC or (2) Business generating or (3) absolutely MISSION FUCKING CRITICAL AGC or DGC in a HUGE organization your just sitti around waiting to be cannon fodder in the next round of recession layoffs oh and you didn't get that much stock cuz youre a low level lawyer and the stock is worthless because it's a recession. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067976) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:46 AM Author: galvanic property Don't understand what your gripe is. Everyone going in-house understands the risk. Biglaw presents similar ones as well. What you're likely referring to (I imagine) are contract negotiator level in-house positions. Your statement holds true for biglaw I guess. No one goes in-house to make money, or, at least, I've yet to meet anyone that has. Ppl generally go for a better work life balance and reasonable pay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068015) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:47 AM Author: Ruby clown My point is that the risk skews heavily towards the downside for all but the positions I identified, which includes the vast majority of AGCs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068026) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:55 AM Author: Ebony nubile chapel You are far more likely to be canned on a whim in biglaw. In house job security is far superior to big law job security. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069167) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: Ruby clown That might be true for the bottom 25% of performers but definitely not the middle 50%. I think you underestimate how decimated in house legal staffs become in sharp downturns. It's nastier on a percentage basis than biglaw. 40 down to 4. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:57 AM Author: rebellious tan stead coffee pot cr you can work in the morning, in the evening, at kids' baseball games, even fall asleep in bed with your emails open (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067501) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park you don't work all the time in biglaw. only NYC/HKG corp is bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067516) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:58 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account Man I was yelling at some Thai woman making ridiculous arguments at like midnight yesterday, sometimes it's not that chill (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067509) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park yell at her for 5 minutes.
go back to the banks.
"Company said no, would you like us to keep pushing back?"
Rinse and repeat. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 7:59 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account Yeah that's what I did but a stressful five min (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067514) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park oh no a stressful five mins
u have literally $1m in a bank account |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account Brokerage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067519) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:16 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067822) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:00 AM Author: Ruby clown It shouldn't be. It's someone else's money and risk. Let her angst fall upon your lap like acorns from an oak tree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067523) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:05 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account oh i agree, my whole approach is let's be chill about this. but when people are just being aggro retards for no reason, its tough (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067530) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:14 AM Author: Ruby clown Yesterday I cut off an angry shrew to ask her why she lies and yells and give her heart for a soulless company that cares nothing about her and wha would your parents and god and children think, it's okay, I will forgive you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067805) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:15 AM Author: Ruby clown Sssssssh don't yell it's going to be ok It's goin to be ok It's going to be ok. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 10:14 AM Author: khaki odious sex offender The best part of megacorp inhouse is negotiating with suppliers because your job is basically to be as unfair and dickish to them as possible. I think my main goal for the rest of my career is to spend as much of my time as possible working for businesses in negotiations where they have all the leverage in every negotiation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068214) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36068906) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: medicated fanboi school Remember this voicemail?
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account of course (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069063) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:04 PM Author: khaki odious sex offender They should make this voicemail a huge portion of your bar exam score. They should add a section where you have to recite it from memory and fail the whole test if you miss more than 5 words. Licensed attorneys should be subject to spot checks where they are asked by another member of the bar to recite it on demand and if they fail to recite it properly they can be disbarred. Also, I should have found this dude and begged him to hire me at the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069224) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069499) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:06 PM Author: galvanic property What an annoying fuck. BTW, what was the issue? lol at getting worked up over shit like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069237) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Irate puce rigor forum Listened to this again for the first time since law school. It doesnt sound that bad anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069287) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:50 PM Author: Crimson parlour community account lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36073254) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:59 AM Author: rebellious tan stead coffee pot never heard it before today. It's bad, but it's not the worst thing I've ever heard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110810) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:34 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111048) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:42 AM Author: Offensive Vivacious Field 2200 in billables? that's like a 44-hour workweek with two full weeks of vacation a year. biglawyers aren't paid enough for that kind of workload. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067640) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:46 AM Author: Gold idiot lmao, here are three committees we'd like you to run, also please be a major participant in the summer program and all of your clients are cost-conscious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067650) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: medicated fanboi school 2200 is 44 billable hours per week, which really means 50 hours in the office ever week. That's not bad by NYC standards, but it means 9:30-7:30 five days a week and probably 5-10 weekends a year ruined with work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069049) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park most biglawyers bill less than 2000 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069052) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo *most biglawyers without a long-term career trajectory at the firm* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069065) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park yeah but you can still do 10 years and save literally no flame one million dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069075) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo I'd wager there isn't a single lawyer in the V25 who's joined within the last 10 years who would be allowed to stay for 10 years if they bill <2k per year outside of the following edge cases: 1) they have dirt on / improper under the eyes of God relations with someone on the global committee; 2) they're a walking discrimination / adverse firing suit if they're let go; 3) they're in a niche area of practice where the hours culture has escaped the general rising tide (e.g., SALT controversy); 4) they're only there because of business facilitation (dad is the GC of Exxon); 5) they have a special niche skill (government contracting wizard with portability over into false claims act analysis for obscure contracting methodologies). This probably describes 5% of the associate workforce. For the other 95%, hours drive the equation to a degree that is jaw-dropping to idealistic outsiders. Also, the Kevron Drive has reached stage four of engineering test phase and we're preparing for a demonstration sometime in June, please let me know if you'd like to attend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069149) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:56 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park yeah you cant do 10 years at a firm with sub 2k but you can lateral 2-3 times (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069174) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo sometimes but it depends on things that are outside of your control like what the market trend is for your practice area at the time and how desperate the (usually lower vault) firm is to staff up with laterals. I've seen the scenario you describe where a lawyer has bobbed and weaved from firm to firm successfully but I've also seen people who get fucked because their resume screams "I can't stay in a single place for more then 1-2 years"; hiring partners / committees are wise to this, especially these days--it's fairly easy to spot someone who is just milking a career path for a few more years of benefits / savings before moving to borneo to open a tattoo body art stand (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069187) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Ebony nubile chapel You don’t know what you’re taking about. At my V5 the AVERAGE billables, excluding pro bono are 1650 to 1750. With pro bono they are about 1900. It’s only the V15 (maybe V10) - V100 where you really have to grind out 2000+ consistently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069192) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: galvanic property (Poaster soon to receive an email from random partner to meet in conference room East-West at end of day) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069198) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:00 PM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo Brother, I think I do know what I'm talking about and we're really not saying anything differently. I don't doubt that some V10s have that as an average hours basis. It doesn't affect the point I'm making, particularly when you think about the volume shape of the cohort of lawyers (pyramidal base); there are lots of young lawyers who come in and try to survive billing <2k hours. I'm telling you they don't generally last these days for a combination of reasons including both firm selection and self selection (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069202) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:22 PM Author: Ebony nubile chapel Ok, maybe it’s different at the top handful of firms. I did consider going to a lower V100 firm recently (for a move that would have involved a promotion) and I was surprised by how hours-focused they were compared to my current firm. My firm just charges pornographically-obscene rates so we don’t really have to bill that many hours to turn a good profit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069348) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:52 AM Author: Ruby clown But you do have to bill these hours to support the PPP of a v5, which even with high rates relies on leverage and hours. Hours are the unit of production of the law firm. Each associate, special counsel and non-equity partner costs salary + bonus + $300k. Add up the back office at $350k/Head. Pull your top line revenue from AmLaw. Pull your PPP. Take junior associate hours at 1800/per based on a bucket of juniors at leverage and $600/hour, counsel and non-equity at 1800/per and $1000/hour and solve for hours of the buckett of senior associates at leverage and $950/hour. The math will show seniors getting CRUSHED. The average number rolled out by firms will include ALL of the partial year firings, hiring and maternity and paternity leave. You MUST bill 2400/year to last ten years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110782) |
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Date: May 25th, 2018 11:08 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36125473) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: Chocolate multi-billionaire Average billable numbers are flame vastly deflated by part year laterals and women on maternity leave (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111110) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 4:55 PM Author: Pea-brained Lemon Gas Station 10 years is crazy
you could probably milk it to year 4-5 though depending on the firm and office, but then you're kind of fucked |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:14 PM Author: Contagious Box Office Mad-dog Skullcap LMAO @ two full weeks of vacation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36106393) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Salmon weed whacker my friend is 30 in biglaw V50 and only makes $250k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067678) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:08 PM Author: khaki odious sex offender So your friend did something before law school and graduated at 27? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069246) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Salmon weed whacker pretty much but he saved for law school and had only $50k of debt and is now debt free.
My only point is that it's wrong to assume top tier base and bonus and graduating at 25 with $0 debt. the opportunity cost of making the money requires a few years to break even. by the break-even point, most biglawyers are looking to leave. |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:19 AM Author: Ruby clown And then you weren't good at it and didn't take full agency of your own life and missed some cuts and gave up and now you can't afford your shitty townhome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067849) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:17 AM Author: Aromatic Brunch cr. plus you just do 4-5 years in the right practice group and then transition to 9-5 300k in house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067833) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:29 AM Author: Ruby clown Now remove your avarice (NYC) and gluttony (law school debt) from the fact pattern and recalculate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067902) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 9:36 AM Author: Very tactful national goyim (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36067951) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 11:42 AM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo Hey, interesting idea you have here. I think we need to talk through things in more detail though. Can you please set up a call with the bort for Saturday at 8 a.m. and then I'll want a draft memorializing the strategy--bullets are fine, but make sure they're tight--by Sunday AM since the board presentation is Monday. Also, I need you to fly out to Quebec sometime next week to support something--I'll let you know the details sometime this week or else over the weekend, but if you haven't heard from me by Monday definitely reach back out
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:03 PM Author: Ebony nubile chapel You are highly compensated because you have no long term future/career progression at the firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069219) |
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Date: May 17th, 2018 12:10 PM Author: sapphire sweet tailpipe ceo "All I wanted to do was to practice law at Skadden for forty years. If only I had know it required an average realized billable hours aggregate of 2,150 per year during my associate years I would have adjusted things. Now here I am, 37, forced to leave the Glory Seat of the Law and sell trinkets to tourists in Ukraine with my family in tow." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36069263) |
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Date: May 20th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36089617) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:03 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36095252) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:04 AM Author: diverse coral university jap not a biglaw bro but i get the impression they entice you with the big salary but they work the shit out of you and then ditch you after about 5 years, leaving you the broken shell of a person (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36095257) |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 9:07 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park why would you be a "broken shell" of a person jfc
its just emails
you aren't manning a trench at Verdun |
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Date: May 21st, 2018 12:48 PM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36096793) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:11 PM Author: Pea-brained Lemon Gas Station 5 years if you’re lucky (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36106376) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 3:49 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102750) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:17 AM Author: Lascivious misunderstood mother pistol you have no idea what it's like. i was at v5 lit and ended it with nothing lined up. human beings were not made for office work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102781) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 4:19 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park And what are you doing now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102784) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 6:40 AM Author: Crimson parlour community account You shouldn't join v5, that's a huge mistake but you should have been able to lateral (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36102853) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 12:08 PM Author: Ruby clown V5 is a sad grotesquerie of flattened goombas and koopa troopas acting like they own the castle (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36104396) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 9:40 AM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110721) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:37 PM Author: painfully honest bistre garrison Its solid money but truly is brutal in many ways. It just wears you down over the years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105799) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:14 AM Author: Confused Sticky Trailer Park its literally just typing things and reading emails JFC grow a backbone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36110889) |
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Date: May 22nd, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Vermilion school cafeteria pervert LOL at "Guarantee" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36105834) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2018 10:47 AM Author: tantric kitty cat dragon $350k in MFH will barely pay for your groceries (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36111113) |
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Date: May 25th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: Fragrant kink-friendly kitchen ladyboy “Flexible work. Lots of firms let you do whatever from home as long as it gets done.” You WILL be working from home (or the airport, train, poolside at your vacation resort, your mother’s dining room table prior to Thanksgiving dinner) in addition to all time spent in the office, since there is no distinction between work and leisure time.
“Can roll in at a 11, out at 4 on slow days”: Yes, after three straight weeks of crushing days, you’ll have a day or two with nothing to do, so you can head in or out early by a few hours, with the dreaded awareness that this period of relative calm can be blown up at any moment.
“Senior assocs can delegate a ton of the grunt work.” Yes, at a certain point you can delegate legal research and answering formulaic interrogatories, while still retaining ultimate responsibility for the delegated work being right (you’ll be as fucked as the junior if some case-busting precedent finds its way into your brief), and then you have some delightful senior associates responsibilities added to your plate, like dealing directly with intransigent clients (direct client contact!) and a plethora of business development “grunt work” (partner tasks you with getting together extensive RFP for case hitting the docket in the morning, for presentation to potential client that evening)
“Good job flexibility -there's firms lining up to hire you even if you get canned.” No. Highly dependent on market and, at some point where it is clear you are non-partner material in the big law world (i.e. vast majority of people) the most common path if staying in the firm world is going to a midlaw or boutique firm that presents much of the samw bullshit with pay comparable to inhouse roles you potentially could have earlier transitioned to earlier.
“Great benefits.” Yes, like UNLIMITED vacation! (Of course, Billable hours expectations still apply).
“ Transactional is chill and often not too contentious.” Hahahhahahhahahhahhahah |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: flatulent international law enforcement agency indian lodge sounds like you're in lit, so that's your problem right there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36419165) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Ruby clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3978981&forum_id=2#36419149) |