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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:42 PM Author: hyperactive curious address I was contacted in January 2017 by a pumo from the board who practices on the east coast. He is licensed in DC, Virginia, MD, etc and wanted advice. He was a big law associate and quit his job and went solo. We talk a lot and he bounces ideas off me on cases.
A former client of mine from California and his son were in Virginia on vacation and got hit by a bigrig. I worked up the case in California when they came back (so they went to my doctors), and the pumo repped them on paper (and did a great job fighting liability). The case was in October 2017 and we just settled today for 85K each. So the pumo and I are each making 28.3K in attorneys fees.
Taking questions.
Edit: Forgot to mention, one of HIS clients was injured in California and we are also doing the reverse. He is working up the treatment and I am handling the legal side. |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: mind-boggling turdskin 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080247) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Blue prole One Fucking Eighty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080251) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:52 PM Author: Cerise immigrant meetinghouse 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080254) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: Indigo private investor indian lodge 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080273) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: hyperactive curious address My favorite line: "The pain management bills are completely excessive. I was shocked." (but still pays 85K lol). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080277) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: dead comical sanctuary Cr. 180. What were the specials? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080304) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: hyperactive curious address $55,138.98 and $55,273.98. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080316) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:14 PM Author: dead comical sanctuary Nice work fellas. Next time let me in on it if you are in such jurisdictions again? I'd hold out for longer, work shit up, and cop a few dozen more grand (for "futures") in a few months time. But 85 or so is very respectable on 55 in specials in such jurisdictions, i assume some issues on specials. Great work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080388) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:26 PM Author: scarlet house-broken laser beams You actually would say “that shit doesn’t pass where i live” and don’t manage your clients treatment and they’d have 8 chiro visits and one x ray and you’d have settled it for 3000 dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080465) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:46 PM Author: Blue prole (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080634) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: Indigo private investor indian lodge KILLSHOT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080653) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 8:43 PM Author: dead comical sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36081019) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:35 AM Author: hyperactive curious address Aren't you the same guy who always says insurance companies in California pay too much? I don't really get your shtick. Do you settle cases for a lot or a little? I'm not really sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082552) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:05 AM Author: dead comical sanctuary I settle cases for case value, of course. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082960) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:38 AM Author: Idiotic Arousing Dragon agree that 89k is on the lower end but i dont think working up the case much more would have brought much more of a return from most insurance companies in the NoVa area and certainly not near 120k imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082555) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:07 AM Author: dead comical sanctuary Yeah but why would you just do the shortcut and jump to negotiations so early on a case w 55k in specials and forego the additional effort. Hell, you'd get a bit more just by their reluctance to pay for cross country depos of treating providers. Let me in next time, I can get more for you just by consult. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082972) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:49 PM Author: contagious hunting ground antidepressant drug wait a minute I don't get it. Can you explain? 55K in injuries + 28K attorneys fees means neither client takes home anything, right? Or do I not get what specials are? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080656) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:32 AM Author: hyperactive curious address The doctors significantly cut their bills. Here is the breakdown I just finished for the clients:
Father: Attorney: $28,333 Admin: $250 Chiro: $1,800 MRI: $1,425 Pain Management Doctor: $3,891 Surgery Center: $15,494 Pharmacy: $75 Net to Client: $33,732
Son: Attorney: $28,333 Admin: $250 Chiro: $3,000 MRI: $600 Pain Management Doctor: $3,536 Surgery Center: $15,494 Pharmacy: $75 Net to client: $33,712 |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:40 AM Author: Idiotic Arousing Dragon too bad they didnt have medpay or health insurance. love the collateral source + anti-subro in VA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082558) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:41 AM Author: hyperactive curious address There is no health insurance subro in VA? That's cool. How does it impact meds you can present at trial? Can you present the amount paid by health insurance? Or the full amount billed? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082559) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: Idiotic Arousing Dragon full amount billed.
collateral source rule = defendant gets no credit for any bills paid by any of the plaintiff's benefits and it's not even allowed to be mentioned. you can actually redact the bills to remove any reference to health ins. or any payments.
it's great. imagine you got a 10k bill and client has medpay/PIP and HI. right off the bat client can pay the bill with HI and then get 10k from PIP/medpay and then still claim the full 10k at trial.
there are some exceptions, e.g. FEHBA gets to subro, but it almost always works out like that. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:49 AM Author: hyperactive curious address Read Howell v. Hamilton Meats. California Supreme Court says that you can only tell a jury what was billed or what was paid. Whatever is LESS. So if your health insurance pays $2,000 of a $20,000 bill and the hospital accepts it as full, you can only claim $2,000 in meds in your case. This really fucks up big damages cases if the client has medicare or medicaid (medi-cal in California). Plus the health insurance companies in California have a subro right against third-party recovery. So as a result, everyone in California uses blow up meds on a lien and they don't paid a dime or use health insurance until the case settles. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082570) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:49 AM Author: Idiotic Arousing Dragon thats fucking rough. whats the usual timely filing req for HI in CA? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082573) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:03 AM Author: dead comical sanctuary Full amount billed. Reach out to me next time please. I can help client. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082952) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: Amber range masturbator 180. Do you know what he did in biglaw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080282) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: hyperactive curious address I think business lit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080297) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Amber range masturbator Can you ask him to do a taking qs thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080307) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: clear cheese-eating lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080328) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Bateful library 180. why did you redact "The" from your signature block? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080290) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: hyperactive curious address I just did it quick and direct on the redacting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36080295) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 8:58 PM Author: cerebral sex offender 180 work, especially since VA a pure contributory negligence state, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36081086) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:10 PM Author: infuriating dashing theater How, if at all, does PI practice differ between VA and CA? Any different strategies/tactics/techniques? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36081941) |
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Date: May 18th, 2018 11:23 PM Author: swashbuckling abode Did you address him in correspondence as random pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082000) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 1:43 AM Author: hyperactive curious address I love you too, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36082561) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: dead comical sanctuary (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36084953) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:18 AM Author: dead comical sanctuary Tell us about liability. If this was bigrig you Have to hit the transport company hard in discovery. Chances are their logs are all fucked up, and they aren't taking breaks like they are supposed to, and quite possibly driver has negligent hiring / retention issues.
Also, in Virginia the erisa lien would be less than your medicals balance after treating providers take their discount. Client is best served in Virginia by using health insurance. The evidentiary rules are very favorable in that regard. |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:40 AM Author: hairraiser gaming laptop Pre-suit? LMAO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36083079) |
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Date: May 19th, 2018 8:54 AM Author: hyperactive curious address Yup. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3980679&forum_id=2#36083129) |